AFJF Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 A bit early to be throwing in the towel for next season, no? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetFaninMI Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 The schedule is not that bad. It depends who is under center. If they sign a guy(Kirk Cousins pleeeezzzzz) who can actually throw the football and Decker/ Marshall are our receivers I think this team can be competitive. I will not predict the record because of injuries etc. If Petty is the QB lets just say HOLY MOTHER ******* sh*t!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetFaninMI Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 10 hours ago, JiF said: That schedule aint sh*t for ROMO!!!! NO TO ROMO. The guy is so brittle someone in the huddle could sneeze and his collarbone would break! Say no to Romo! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 12 hours ago, Maxman said: Metlife dropped Snoopy. We don't even have that anymore. this is an outrage !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 Tank for Jackson! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neckdemon Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 21 hours ago, drdetroit said: Well there's another lost season. Tank for Lamar Jackson. lamar jackson is going to be another michael vick, or even worse rg3. pass on this bust Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackhuntr Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 22 hours ago, SAR I said: 2017 Regular Season Home Away Kansas City Chiefs Denver Broncos San Diego Chargers Oakland Raiders Atlanta Falcons New Orleans Saints Carolina Panthers Tampa Bay Buccaneers AFC South Same Place Finisher AFC North Same Place Finisher New England Patriots (Div.) New England Patriots (Div.) Miami Dolphins (Div.) Miami Dolphins (Div.) Buffalo Bills (Div.) Buffalo Bills (Div.) We might go 3-5 at home, probably 3-5 on the road too. SAR I You think about it, ANY team in the NFL on the schedule is a tough game for these Jets. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio State NY Jets fan Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 This schedule does not look that bad in the light of day, 10 wins if can they find a DC, QB, OT, OG, TE, CB, S, and OLB in the offseason; Kansas City Chiefs - aging team and coach who should be getting bored (window closed?) San Diego Chargers - Rivers getting older, no team around him (window closed?) Atlanta Falcons - home vs a dome team, hope it is a December game Carolina Panthers - A moody Cam under the big lights in New York Probably the Jaguars at home - with a new rookie QB and new coaching staff Miami Dolphins (Div.) - Tanny running out of money Buffalo Bills (Div.) - last year or rebuilding year after Rex New England Patriots (Div.) - cheaters *Six (6) wins for the PSL investors Away Denver Broncos - they still need to find a QB Oakland Raiders - always a tough road trip and they will get better - L New Orleans Saints - Brees will be 50 and still throw for 300 but they have no defense either - W Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Probably the Browns who will field a rookie team Miami Dolphins (Div.) - Tanny running out of money Buffalo Bills (Div.) - last year or rebuilding year after Rex New England Patriots (Div.) - cheaters *4-6 wins on the road - assuming division split advantage to the home team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 20 hours ago, Pac said: better hurry and lock up Fitzy. we'll need a savvy vet to navigate a schedule that difficult. or so I've been told. No worries, they are monitoring the bulls rehab very closely Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 2 hours ago, neckdemon said: lamar jackson is going to be another michael vick, or even worse rg3. pass on this bust You have no idea how wrong you are he is such a better passer than either of those clowns Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 13 hours ago, Ohio State NY Jets fan said: That was a long term deal for Neil O'Donnell at about $25m, Fitz was a 1 year deal for only $12m so the Jets are improving every 20 years, 2036 should be our year (yes, most of us will be dead) Crazy thing is O'Donnel was a way better QB than Fitz ever was Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neckdemon Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 6 hours ago, drdetroit said: You have no idea how wrong you are he is such a better passer than either of those clowns dude is gonna suck in the nfl book it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadFan Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 20 hours ago, AFJF said: A bit early to be throwing in the towel for next season, no? Wow. There are 4 cornerstones of a successful franchise. QB. LT. CB. Edge rusher. Which of those do you see on the Jets? It will take 4 years just to fix the Jets O-Line. See Oakland and Dallas. This franchise needs to blow the whole thing up, hopefully win 3 games or less in 2017. Then rinse and repeat for 2018. Build for 2020 and beyond. And I am going to keep my new avatar for anybody around here that is going to go STB crazy during the "fraud agency" signing periods. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 24 minutes ago, RoadFan said: Wow. There are 4 cornerstones of a successful franchise. QB. LT. CB. Edge rusher. Which of those do you see on the Jets? It will take 4 years just to fix the Jets O-Line. See Oakland and Dallas. This franchise needs to blow the whole thing up, hopefully win 3 games or less in 2017. Then rinse and repeat for 2018. Build for 2020 and beyond. And I am going to keep my new avatar for anybody around here that is going to go STB crazy during the "fraud agency" signing periods. I don't know that I'd put LT in there anymore. More important to have an overall solid line than a particular strength at LT. It's preferable (duh) but not a prerequisite. CB... again, if we have one killer corner (e.g. Revis of old) a decent offense can still effectively gameplan around him Really it's just QB and edge rusher, in that order, with edge rusher a distant second. The QB can hide so many ills in so many areas. Without one, you basically need solid to great units everywhere else, as well as coaching, and a team is still likely to come up short in the end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadFan Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 Just now, Sperm Edwards said: I don't know that I'd put LT in there anymore. More important to have an overall solid line than a particular strength at LT. It's preferable (duh) but not a prerequisite. CB... again, if we have one killer corner (e.g. Revis of old) a decent offense can still effectively gameplan around him Really it's just QB and edge rusher, in that order, with edge rusher a distant second. The QB can hide so many ills in so many areas. Without one, you basically need solid to great units everywhere else, as well as coaching, and a team is still likely to come up short in the end. Agree to an extent. Hence why I said the O-line as a whole is a 4 year rebuild. Successful teams need an O-Line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 2 minutes ago, RoadFan said: Agree to an extent. Hence why I said the O-line as a whole is a 4 year rebuild. Successful teams need an O-Line. I actually like the way Wesley Johnson and Ijalana have played this year. Jets OL has been pretty solid. Better than I or others thought it would be. I think Mauldin has a chance if he keeps getting playing time. I would of course look for upgrades, but I think those two are less important than the other two. QB and CB 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 4 minutes ago, RoadFan said: Agree to an extent. Hence why I said the O-line as a whole is a 4 year rebuild. Successful teams need an O-Line. It certainly helps. But then look at the Seahawks. I don't think they've had a good line since before they drafted Russell Wilson. I was just saying having a top notch LT specifically isn't quite the big deal it's made out to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadFan Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 1 minute ago, Sperm Edwards said: It certainly helps. But then look at the Seahawks. I don't think they've had a good line since before they drafted Russell Wilson. I was just saying having a top notch LT specifically isn't quite the big deal it's made out to be. Hard to win a SB with no running game. The Seahawks will need Rawls if they hope to win another. And Marshawn Lynch didn't gain all those yards by himself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 1 minute ago, RoadFan said: Hard to win a SB with no running game. The Seahawks will need Rawls if they hope to win another. And Marshawn Lynch didn't gain all those yards by himself. Dual threat QBs - particularly good ones like Wilson - often make it easier for RBs. Their OL was pretty bad for a SB team. Carpenter wasn't nearly as good as he is today; plus Breno; plus Okung was always banged up & never lived up to his draft status; plus Sweezy; McQuistan is more versatile than awesome. They had a good center but even he fully missed 10 games in their 2nd SB season. No RB gains all his yards on his own, but there's a reason he was so valued by the team & it wasn't just compiling behind a really good line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadFan Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 Just now, Sperm Edwards said: Dual threat QBs - particularly good ones like Wilson - often make it easier for RBs. Their OL was pretty bad for a SB team. Carpenter wasn't nearly as good as he is today; plus Breno; plus Okung was always banged up & never lived up to his draft status; plus Sweezy; McQuistan is more versatile than awesome. They had a good center but even he fully missed 10 games in their 2nd SB season. No RB gains all his yards on his own, but there's a reason he was so valued by the team & it wasn't just compiling behind a really good line. If the war room listened to Terry Broadway, Wilson would be a Jet. Or if they listened to me they would have given Tennessee anything they wanted, probably thrown in an extra for good measure, and Mariota would be a Jet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 29 minutes ago, RoadFan said: If the war room listened to Terry Broadway, Wilson would be a Jet. Or if they listened to me they would have given Tennessee anything they wanted, probably thrown in an extra for good measure, and Mariota would be a Jet. No doubt. The former wasn't happening in round 2; a month after extending Sanchez for the next 5 years and picking up Tebow like a week later. This ****ing team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 16 minutes ago, Sperm Edwards said: No doubt. The former wasn't happening in round 2; a month after extending Sanchez for the next 5 years and picking up Tebow like a week later. This ****ing team. I think they draft Wilson if Woody doesn't give the order to go get Tebow once it became obvious he was done in Denver. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 1 hour ago, Sperm Edwards said: It certainly helps. But then look at the Seahawks. I don't think they've had a good line since before they drafted Russell Wilson. I was just saying having a top notch LT specifically isn't quite the big deal it's made out to be. They game has changed the last several years. Quarterbacks are quickpassing it every play thanks to everything getting called holding now. The days of Dan Marino and Vinny Testaverde holding the ball for 10 minutes are long gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio State NY Jets fan Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 2 hours ago, drdetroit said: I think they draft Wilson if Woody doesn't give the order to go get Tebow once it became obvious he was done in Denver. Agree that was a bad decision but it was made worse since Rex did not even play Tebow, Sanchez deserved to be benched so fair to assume he would not have played Wilson? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 47 minutes ago, Ohio State NY Jets fan said: Agree that was a bad decision but it was made worse since Rex did not even play Tebow, Sanchez deserved to be benched so fair to assume he would not have played Wilson? Rex played Tebow but in the Brad Smith role. The reason Tebow never started at qb that year was he played horrible in the preseason and showed he had no grasp of the offense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 14 hours ago, jackhuntr said: You think about it, ANY team in the NFL on the schedule is a tough game for these Jets. Think about it, this statement is wrong. Just whiny 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 56 minutes ago, Ohio State NY Jets fan said: Agree that was a bad decision but it was made worse since Rex did not even play Tebow, Sanchez deserved to be benched so fair to assume he would not have played Wilson? You should listen to what Westhoff had said about Tebow. They brought him in and played him in practice and were totally amazed at how shltty he was, how completely incompetent he was in practice. Was obvious that he had no position on the team where he wasnt a liability 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 3 hours ago, Sperm Edwards said: No doubt. The former wasn't happening in round 2; a month after extending Sanchez for the next 5 years and picking up Tebow like a week later. This ****ing team. then they draft a big kid with a golden arm and decide not to coach him for a year, lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 8 hours ago, drdetroit said: I think they draft Wilson if Woody doesn't give the order to go get Tebow once it became obvious he was done in Denver. Tannenbaum made the trade for Tebow before Wilson was drafted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 5 hours ago, Larz said: then they draft a big kid with a golden arm and decide not to coach him for a year, lol Well, golden arm strength anyway, but yeah. It's OK to spend some $150,000,000 on players that get the team a handful of wins all season long. But getting a raw, rookie QB - or even each young/raw backup QB - an additional QBC for single-digit thousands per week, to continually work with him from the draft onward? That would be just nuts. Hardly seems worth the effort, or the hundred grand or so, which is why we shrewdly cut off his development until after his rookie season ended, just like Petty before him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adoni Beast Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 11 hours ago, UnitedWhofans said: I actually like the way Wesley Johnson and Ijalana have played this year. Jets OL has been pretty solid. Better than I or others thought it would be. I think Mauldin has a chance if he keeps getting playing time. I would of course look for upgrades, but I think those two are less important than the other two. QB and CB Completely agree the oline has been better than expected and we have some pieces to work with. But we need more for a bruising line. I know Mac is correctly all about BPA, but I expect us to draft cb, oline, and safety in the draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackhuntr Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 8 hours ago, Jet Nut said: Think about it, this statement is wrong. Just whiny Not whiny, how many games this year did we dominate in? We're just not a good team this year. We are what our record is. Don't mean I don't love them or root for them every week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio State NY Jets fan Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 9 hours ago, drdetroit said: Rex played Tebow but in the Brad Smith role. The reason Tebow never started at qb that year was he played horrible in the preseason and showed he had no grasp of the offense. I know and I am not a Tebow fan but the way Sanchez played that year they had nothing to lose by giving Tebow the start in Nashville, Tebow beat Rex and the Steelers defense after terrible practices and no knowledge of the offense in Denver so why not throw him out there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 2 hours ago, jackhuntr said: Not whiny, how many games this year did we dominate in? We're just not a good team this year. We are what our record is. Don't mean I don't love them or root for them every week. Whiny. Next year is completely different than this year. Just as it was different from last year. Crying that next year is over today is whiny. And dumb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetscode1 Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 The NFL has jumped the shark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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