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Are the Jets any better off than the Rex/Idzik regime?

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Are the Jets any better off than the Rex/Idzik regime?

Jets owner Woody Johnson selected Mike Maccagnan as general manager and Todd Bowles as head coach to lead his franchise on Jan. 14, 2015. On Thursday, it will be 686 days since that decision. How much better are the Jets now than they were then? It is a startling question to consider two years into a regime, but there currently are very few signs the Jets are in a better place in December 2016 than they were in December 2014, when Rex Ryan and John Idzik were in their final days with the team. Two years ago Thursday, the Jets lost to the Dolphins 16-13 on a Monday night at MetLife Stadium, a game best remembered for Geno Smith throwing just 13 passes. The loss dropped the Jets to 2-10 in that miserable season, another loss as they played out the string. This Monday, the Jets face the Colts at MetLife Stadium. They are 3-8 and the season ended before Thanksgiving. Through 27 games, the Maccagnan/Bowles Jets look a whole lot like the Idzik/Ryan Jets. They still have no answer at quarterback. In 2014, there still was some hope for Smith. Now, they have two quarterbacks they are scared to put on the field and Ryan Fitzpatrick playing out his final days as a Jet. The Jets overachieved in 2015, going 10-6 but falling short of the playoffs before bottoming out this year. It is similar pattern to the 2013 Jets overachieving to go 8-8 and missing the playoffs, then cratering in 2014 and going 4-12. Just as in 2014, this roster is full of holes. Jot down a list of draft needs for the Jets and you are basically filling out a depth chart. Outside of defensive line, you could argue every other position is one that needs to be addressed. There is no evidence Maccagnan’s first two draft classes are any better than Idzik’s. Like Idzik, Maccagnan landed a stud defensive lineman in the first round of his first draft. Like Idzik, there is very little else to be confident in.

fi.jpg?quality=90&strip=all&w=344Are the Jets any better off than the Rex/Idzik regime?
 

What can fans get excited about now? Another miserable Monday night at MetLife?

Jets fans deserve better.

We certainly do.......

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Mac is better than Idzik for sure. Mac actually won exec of the year last year. Idzik was pathetic especially in the draft.

Bowles and Rex are about equal.  One is quiet the other is loud but both are 3-4 defensive guys who will go as far as the Qb takes them.  Firing either of these guys doesn't make the team better it just makes Tom Shane stop twitching for a couple hours. 

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4 minutes ago, bitonti said:

Mac is better than Idzik for sure. Mac actually won exec of the year last year. Idzik was pathetic especially in the draft.

Bowles and Rex are about equal.  One is quiet the other is loud but both are 3-4 defensive guys who will go as far as the Qb takes them.  Firing either of these guys doesn't make the team better it just makes Tom Shane stop twitching for a couple hours. 

bowles and rex are about equal? on what planet?  bowles isn't half the coach Rex is.

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2 minutes ago, Joe W. Namath said:

They might be worse off.  The whole organization is at ite lowest point then its ever been.  We are in code red kotite style.

Not even close! When we see a Bubby Brister style shovel pass returned for a TD, then we might be there.:D

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7 minutes ago, bitonti said:

literally on this planet Rex is 14-13 and Bowles are 13-14 in the last two seasons. 

Rex w/ his undermanned team kept Bowles out of the playoffs last year and Rex w/ a depleted team this year is in the playoff race while we were out by Halloween.

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3 minutes ago, BigRy56 said:

Mac is light years ahead of Idzik. He is here to stay.

Bowles on the other hand is pretty much the same as Rex minus the big mouth.

minus the big mouth and the wins.

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3 minutes ago, BigRy56 said:

Mac is light years ahead of Idzik. He is here to stay.

Bowles on the other hand is pretty much the same as Rex minus the big mouth.

Wilk - terrible contract

Revis - terible contract

Fitz - not worth 1/4 of the money mac gave him.

Drafting qbs that cant even play?

mac has been awful.

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13 minutes ago, nyjunc said:

Rex w/ his undermanned team kept Bowles out of the playoffs last year and Rex w/ a depleted team this year is in the playoff race while we were out by Halloween.

Bowles beat Rex, this season. It's one of their 3 wins. 

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2 minutes ago, bitonti said:

Bowles beat Rex, this season. It's one of their 3 wins. 

he did, let's see him do it week 17 to knock the Bills out of the playoffs and they will be even the last 2 years(despite Rex having far less talent to work with).  

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13 minutes ago, Joe W. Namath said:

Wilk - terrible contract

Revis - terible contract

Fitz - not worth 1/4 of the money mac gave him.

Drafting qbs that cant even play?

mac has been awful.

Wilk - loved all around Jet land, not working out so far. Can get out of this deal to sign Richardson

Revis - no brainer, will get out of his contract this year. Will probably have to eat 6mil but will save almost 10

Fitz - No brainer, he was and still is the best available quarterback on this team like it or not. His contract is harmless going forward

Drafting Hackenberg hurts, should've gone a different direction here - but he's actively trying to find a quarterback

 

It's a bad year, I get it... but Mac has done very well so far. The ultimate test is finding a quarterback. He tried to get through 1 more season with Fitz and it backfired.

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20 minutes ago, nyjunc said:

minus the big mouth and the wins.

Rex was fun for a little while... but he should be getting much more wins with that Buffalo team. He's failing there just as he did us.

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4 minutes ago, nyjunc said:

he did, let's see him do it week 17 to knock the Bills out of the playoffs and they will be even the last 2 years(despite Rex having far less talent to work with).  

it's entirely feasible. 

I don't think Rex deserved to be fired or Bowles. Coaches coach and players play. Give either of these guys good players and they look like good coaches. 

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10 minutes ago, nyjunc said:

he did, let's see him do it week 17 to knock the Bills out of the playoffs and they will be even the last 2 years(despite Rex having far less talent to work with).  

Rex has a QB. QB talent makes a bigger difference than anything else.

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6 minutes ago, BigRy56 said:

Rex was fun for a little while... but he should be getting much more wins with that Buffalo team. He's failing there just as he did us.

It’s been a miracle w/ all their injuries and suspensions that they are still in the race.  Rex has done a great job this year.

 

6 minutes ago, bitonti said:

it's entirely feasible. 

I don't think Rex deserved to be fired or Bowles. Coaches coach and players play. Give either of these guys good players and they look like good coaches. 

Bowles has enough talent to at least compete now, there’s no excuse for the season to have been over by Halloween.

 

I don’t want Bowles fired even though he’s been awful this year.

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1 minute ago, jamesr said:

I'll take his mediocre QB over our one any day.

sure but he's still mediocre.  I like Taylor more than Fitz but he can be frustrating too.

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20 minutes ago, nyjunc said:

It’s been a miracle w/ all their injuries and suspensions that they are still in the race.  Rex has done a great job this year.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Bowles has enough talent to at least compete now, there’s no excuse for the season to have been over by Halloween.

 

 

 

 

 

I don’t want Bowles fired even though he’s been awful this year.

If Rex did not luck out and face the Patriots 3rd string rookie QB, they would be under .500 right now and everyone would be talking about who the next coach for the Bills is. They have much more talent than the Jets do, and the Jets have as many key injuries as they do. The Jets are not a talented team, Rex and Bowles both suck as coaches.

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Costello actually believes that Maccagnan's drafts are comparable to Idzik's?

Most of Maccagnan draft picks are actually playing meaningful minutes.

That ALONE creates a major separation.

Costello has entered the Cimini/Mehta troll zone

 

Edited by UnitedWhofans

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38 minutes ago, nyjunc said:

he did, let's see him do it week 17 to knock the Bills out of the playoffs and they will be even the last 2 years(despite Rex having far less talent to work with).  

This post should be the site banner

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6 minutes ago, NoBowles said:

If Rex did not luck out and face the Patriots 3rd string rookie QB, they would be under .500 right now and everyone would be talking about who the next coach for the Bills is. They have much more talent than the Jets do, and the Jets have as many key injuries as they do. The Jets are not a talented team, Rex and Bowles both suck as coaches.

How did the other 3 teams fare when they lucked out not facing Brady?

The Jets have MUCH, MUCH, MUCH more talent than the Bills especially when you factor healt/suspensions.

We’d be in the race if Rex was still here

 

 

 

 

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Just now, nyjunc said:

How did the other 3 teams fare when they lucked out not facing Brady?

 

 

The Jets have MUCH, MUCH, MUCH more talent than the Bills especially when you factor healt/suspensions.

 

 

We’d be in the race if Rex was still here

 

 

 

 

 

 

I dont believe that. The Bills were picked ahead of the Jets this year.

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1 hour ago, bitonti said:

Mac is better than Idzik for sure. Mac actually won exec of the year last year. Idzik was pathetic especially in the draft.

Executive of the Year is selected by the likes of Mehta and Cimini. It means dick. 

I have no idea how Idzik's drafts can be considered more pathetic than Maccagnan's. In two years, each of them has given us a really good DT and basically nothing else.

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3 minutes ago, dbatesman said:

Executive of the Year is selected by the likes of Mehta and Cimini. It means dick. 

I have no idea how Idzik's drafts can be considered more pathetic than Maccagnan's. In two years, each of them has given us a really good DT and basically nothing else.

How many of Idzik's picks actually played? How many of Maccagnan's picks have played meaningful minutes.

There's your answer.

Idzik: Enunwa, Richardson, Milliner.

Maccagnan: Williams, Lee, Jenkins, Peake, Edwards, Mauldin

Not to mention the UDFAs, Anderson and Marshall

Edited by UnitedWhofans

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