Gangrene Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 Casserly empathic today on NFL.com "this is a major rebuilding job not a firing situation" He omits to mention he was heavily involved in the formation of the current Jets regime Now he is blaming talent, saying that was the problem all along. http://www.nfl.com/videos/new-york-jets/0ap3000000752708/Casserly-on-Jets-loss-This-is-a-major-rebuilding-job Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadFan Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 I blasted him on twitter for hiring Bowles after the decision to punt with 7 minutes left in Pittsburgh. Told him to "give the money back." Casserly the coward blocked me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadienJetsFan Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 Casserly is right, this IS a rebuild...finally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brown Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 IMO he's right!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 So the rebuild includes signing washed up players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 if the players were not fast or big enough but played their asses off I could agree that this is not a "firing situation" does anybody really think this team is playing up to the talent level ? lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 5 minutes ago, Matt39 said: So the rebuild includes signing washed up players. Rebuild around those 30+ aged skill position players and Buster Skrine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 And even if you play the "rebuild" card (laughable after signing Fitzpatrick), there's still zero reason for a team to dog it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fltflo Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 Sorry it has nothing to do with rebuilding or not. Players flat out quit last night, and i am talking about talented players who are simply phoning it in at this point. Players who were allowed to get fat and slow players who were not disciplined when failing to put effort into there work (Revis). Players who are dictating to management who should be starting and who should be sitting The moment the patients took over the asylum Todd Bowles was in big trouble. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadFan Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 14 minutes ago, CanadienJetsFan said: Casserly is right, this IS a rebuild...finally. Yeah, it is. And his hand-picked GM and Coach have done a marvelous job in their first two seasons.... Can't draft. Can't coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UpstateJetsGuru Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 What a monumentally disastrous mess this has become. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gen X Jet Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 This guy is a real loser who hasn't been relevant in three decades. To top it off he speaks like a timeshare salesman. He owes his whole career to Joe Gibbs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers9 Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 Hopefully if Woody fires Mac and Bowles he won't re-hire Casserly or ask his opinion on anything. But who knows with the Woodman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetdawgg Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 5 minutes ago, fltflo said: Sorry it has nothing to do with rebuilding or not. Players flat out quit last night, and i am talking about talented players who are simply phoning it in at this point. Players who were allowed to get fat and slow players who were not disciplined when failing to put effort into there work (Revis). Players who are dictating to management who should be starting and who should be sitting The moment the patients took over the asylum Todd Bowles was in big trouble. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Did Gilchrist play last night? Casserly is spot on. He did know this then I think. Firing anyone but the players is a waste. The GM and the HC have made mistakes. They are first timers and also need space to grow. Resigning Futz was a major flaw in the Jets' plan to rebuild. Geno should have been the QB since Futz held out. No way should they have gone over the cap to sign him. It hurt the Jets from developing the two younger QB's if Geno would have failed. Geno could have done as bad as Futz has done on the field and still the Jets would be better off. That signing has hurt and will cause pain for at least two seasons. Trade Mangold, Decker, McL. They should fetch some draft picks and make some cap space. Draft Fournette. The young QB's will need some protection with a stronger run game next season. Adding him to BP and Forte is an immense upgrade. Re-sign Winters and Ijalana. Use Johnson at C. Mangold bumbled still another snap last nite. Get Shell at RT Enunwa, Anderson and Peake/Smith as the top three WR's next season. Use BM in the slot as he will be a certain mismatch. Resign ASJ. on D go with a 4/3 by adding the best PR DE in the draft in round two. Sometimes one must draft for need. Cut Revis, Harris, Gilchrist, Address OL and CB from Round 3 on Use the three young LB'ers from the recent drafts. Fire K Rogers. Get a much needed upgrade here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Schroy Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 Sure it's a rebuild, but that can include the CS as well and it should. Wipe them out, All of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadFan Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 22 minutes ago, Jetdawgg said: Did Gilchrist play last night? Casserly is spot on. He did know this then I think. Firing anyone but the players is a waste. The GM and the HC have made mistakes. They are first timers and also need space to grow. Resigning Futz was a major flaw in the Jets' plan to rebuild. Geno should have been the QB since Futz held out. No way should they have gone over the cap to sign him. It hurt the Jets from developing the two younger QB's if Geno would have failed. Geno could have done as bad as Futz has done on the field and still the Jets would be better off. That signing has hurt and will cause pain for at least two seasons. Trade Mangold, Decker, McL. They should fetch some draft picks and make some cap space. Draft Fournette. The young QB's will need some protection with a stronger run game next season. Adding him to BP and Forte is an immense upgrade. Re-sign Winters and Ijalana. Use Johnson at C. Mangold bumbled still another snap last nite. Get Shell at RT Enunwa, Anderson and Peake/Smith as the top three WR's next season. Use BM in the slot as he will be a certain mismatch. Resign ASJ. on D go with a 4/3 by adding the best PR DE in the draft in round two. Sometimes one must draft for need. Cut Revis, Harris, Gilchrist, Address OL and CB from Round 3 on Use the three young LB'ers from the recent drafts. Fire K Rogers. Get a much needed upgrade here. ASJ is a total POS... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 Only guy on defense worth a damn in Leonard Williams. Wilkerson may be hurt. Lee tries, but until he spends a winter bench pressing Hondas he isn't there. The other 8 guys could be replaced with the cast of any Division III or sandlot team defense, all of whom would show more heart. And that's on the coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoBowles Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 I remember thinking when I heard Woody was hiring Casserly as a consultant, did everyone forget how awful he did in Houston? Its like people forget Houston even happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gangrene Posted December 7, 2016 Author Share Posted December 7, 2016 What I don't like is Casserly took no ownership of his involvement before pronouncing that Bowles should not be fired. Clearly he is not objective. Firing Bowles now says Casserly does not know anything about hiring a coach. We have had two of the biggest bullsh*tting coaches in NFL history, Herm Edwards and Rex Ryan. We alternated with two idiot savants, Eric Mangini and Todd Bowles. Can we not hire somebody who can speak direct, in full sentences without going into nonsensical Herm/Rex hyperbole ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 1 hour ago, T0mShane said: And even if you play the "rebuild" card (laughable after signing Fitzpatrick), there's still zero reason for a team to dog it. This is so right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 Casserly is a clueless old coot who still thinks the players wear leather helmets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 42 minutes ago, NoBowles said: I remember thinking when I heard Woody was hiring Casserly as a consultant, did everyone forget how awful he did in Houston? Its like people forget Houston even happened. Macc included Houston must have won a Super Bowl that we all missed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isired Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 Casserly is right, this IS a rebuild...finally. He's partially right. It's a rebuild now. But 2 years ago it wasn't, and this past offseason it wasn't - we just haven't been able to get a QB, nor the selection and/or grooming of the replacements for our aging players, via the draft and free agency. And that falls on the FO/GM and the CS/HC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 2015 was a last gasp. 2016 should have started the rebuild. The drafts have been meh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 2 hours ago, Matt39 said: So the rebuild includes signing washed up players. *competitive rebuild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAR I Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 1 hour ago, Gangrene said: We have had two of the biggest bullsh*tting coaches in NFL history, Herm Edwards and Rex Ryan. We alternated with two idiot savants, Eric Mangini and Todd Bowles. Can we not hire somebody who can speak direct, in full sentences without going into nonsensical Herm/Rex hyperbole ? No more rookie head coaches. Simple as that. SAR I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYJCAP2 Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 This place and media are full on pathetic. Fire him, fire them all. Nothing like firing everyone in site at the first sign of adversity.Give me a breakSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAR I Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 2 hours ago, RoadFan said: Yeah, it is. And his hand-picked GM and Coach have done a marvelous job in their first two seasons.... Can't draft. Can't coach. So many quotes, I can't pick just one. Read Casserly and Wolf pat themselves on the back for such "great hires" in Maccagnan and Bowles less than a year ago: http://www.newsday.com/sports/columnists/bob-glauber/jets-hit-paydirt-with-todd-bowles-mike-maccagnan-tandem-1.11274258 SAR I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 4 minutes ago, SAR I said: So many quotes, I can't pick just one. Read Casserly and Wolf pat themselves on the back for such "great hires" in Maccagnan and Bowles less than a year ago: http://www.newsday.com/sports/columnists/bob-glauber/jets-hit-paydirt-with-todd-bowles-mike-maccagnan-tandem-1.11274258 SAR I Damn were they wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadetree Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 I'm really really down on Bowles, but I'm STILL leaning towards keeping the staff intact. Ive had enough of the coaching merry go round w this franchise. jack del rio is 10-2. It's not because he's a genius. jeff fisher, IMO, is a good coach, yet he's had mediocre record for ages and there's an Eric Dickerson-led mutiny going on out west. id rather let Mac continue to be the above average GM I consider him to be and hope Bowles can grow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 Just now, Shadetree said: I'm really really down on Bowles, but I'm STILL leaning towards keeping the staff intact. Ive had enough of the coaching merry go round w this franchise. jack del rio is 10-2. It's not because he's a genius. jeff fisher, IMO, is a good coach, yet he's had mediocre record for ages and there's an Eric Dickerson-led mutiny going on out west. id rather let Mac continue to be the above average GM I consider him to be and hope Bowles can grow. Wait what? Keep the worst coaching staff in the NFL intact? Bowles grow? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets_Win Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 12 minutes ago, NYJCAP2 said: This place and media are full on pathetic. Fire him, fire them all. Nothing like firing everyone in site at the first sign of adversity. Give me a break Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk First sign of adversity? Bowles sucks, but let's keep him because consistency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadetree Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 24 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: Wait what? Keep the worst coaching staff in the NFL intact? Bowles grow? That's the way I feel about this situation. We lack too many players at too many skill positions to put 100% on him. And, again, the NYJ coaching turnover is a joke. I want it to stop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAR I Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 11 minutes ago, Shadetree said: And, again, the NYJ coaching turnover is a joke. I want it to stop. You said the same thing about Rex Ryan and all it got us was 3 more years of wasted time. SAR I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j4jets Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 4 hours ago, Gangrene said: Casserly empathic today on NFL.com "this is a major rebuilding job not a firing situation" He omits to mention he was heavily involved in the formation of the current Jets regime Now he is blaming talent, saying that was the problem all along. http://www.nfl.com/videos/new-york-jets/0ap3000000752708/Casserly-on-Jets-loss-This-is-a-major-rebuilding-job What a sh!tbag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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