peebag Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 dear god...is this true? "Head Coach Todd Bowles told the media that rookie right tackle Brandon Shell would get the nod if Brent Qvale can’t go, but whoever it is will be facing Cameron Wake, the Dolphins best pass-rusher, and neither is good enough to neutralize him consistently. Look for a multi-sack day out of Wake" If so - I think we should play Fitztragic instead.... 2 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 Petty will be 'evaluated' with very limited reps, a stripped down play book, a team that has mailed it in, a jag and injured oline. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTownsell1 Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 8 minutes ago, Beerfish said: Petty will be 'evaluated' with very limited reps, a stripped down play book, a team that has mailed it in, a jag and injured oline. Most rookie QBs have to deal with a weak supporting cast. At least Petty has some decent WRs to target and either Powell or Forte in the backfield. Not ideal, but sometimes you can tell a lot about a QB from the way he handles adversity. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drsamuel84 Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 I go back and forth on this. At this point in the season we are in an evaluation stage and yes, we should be looking at all the young guys. At the same time, you want to be able to evaluate your young QB in the ideal circumstances. It's not about making excuses for the kid it's just more about being honest in evaluating him. The weather also looks like it may be crappy Sat. night too so I doubt we see a game plan like we saw against SF where he's airing it out every play. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 41 minutes ago, peebag said: If so - I think we should play Fitztragic instead.... Shame on you. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawn306 Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 So then go quick and short to the RB's or WR's. Not every play has to be a deep ball. Sheesh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JETSfaninNE Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 Did Shell get in the game last week? I feel like I remember hearing his name and he did OKish? for his first time? Or am I just remembering what I would like to remember? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 hey, these guys are suposed to be professionals. wake is good but he also didn't do much in the first game this year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetBlue Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 Just now, JETSfaninNE said: Did Shell get in the game last week? I feel like I remember hearing his name and he did OKish? for his first time? Or am I just remembering what I would like to remember? Shell needs to play so we can see what he can do. Sometimes guys actually play better in actual games rather than just practice (often it is the reverse) that is why we need to get them on the field in real action. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetBlue Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 14 minutes ago, shawn306 said: So then go quick and short to the RB's or WR's. Not every play has to be a deep ball. Sheesh Even better, roll him out because he seems to be better on the run than just dropping back in the pocket. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 46 minutes ago, Beerfish said: Petty will be 'evaluated' with very limited reps, a stripped down play book, a team that has mailed it in, a jag and injured oline. I'm rather sure our GM knows these variables are in place, and will judge accordingly. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JETSfaninNE Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 Just now, JetBlue said: Shell needs to play so we can see what he can do. Sometimes guys actually play better in actual games rather than just practice (often it is the reverse) that is why we need to get them on the field in real action. Oh no doubt, 100% agree with you, but did he play last week? Not start but didn't he relieve Qvale last week when he got injured? He did get injured right? I feel like I'm totally misremembering this game last week. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 1 minute ago, JETSfaninNE said: Oh no doubt, 100% agree with you, but did he play last week? Not start but didn't he relieve Qvale last week when he got injured? He did get injured right? I feel like I'm totally misremembering this game last week. he did play last week and did fine. he's better as a run blocker than in pass pro but similar to Qvale Most forget but he also was an extra lineman during the BAL victory https://twitter.com/ConnorJRogers/status/790584604386267138 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JETSfaninNE Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 1 minute ago, bitonti said: he did play last week and did fine. he's better as a run blocker than in pass pro but similar to Qvale Most forget but he also was an extra lineman during the BAL victory https://twitter.com/ConnorJRogers/status/790584604386267138 Thanks for the heads up! I did forget about this play! Hoping this prospect works out, I'm always patient with OL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 Just now, JETSfaninNE said: Thanks for the heads up! I did forget about this play! Hoping this prospect works out, I'm always patient with OL. he's got bloodlines on his side and the league is rife with nepotism. I think he'll be fine or if not him, someone else at RT (Qvale, Ijalana) will probably be fine. left tackle is much more concerning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JETSfaninNE Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 (edited) 1 minute ago, bitonti said: he's got bloodlines on his side and the league is rife with nepotism. I think he'll be fine or if not him, someone else at RT (Qvale, Ijalana) will probably be fine. left tackle is much more concerning. Agreed as well as C. Not sure if Mangold is going to stick around or even possibly retire after this year. He's had some bad injuries that can cause you to really consider retirement, especially last year with that neck injury. Edited December 16, 2016 by JETSfaninNE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j4jets Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 57 minutes ago, Beerfish said: Petty will be 'evaluated' with very limited reps, a stripped down play book, a team that has mailed it in, a jag and injured oline. At least he has Robbie Anderson to drop his passes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetBlue Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 9 minutes ago, JETSfaninNE said: Oh no doubt, 100% agree with you, but did he play last week? Not start but didn't he relieve Qvale last week when he got injured? He did get injured right? I feel like I'm totally misremembering this game last week. Yes I remember his name being called once or twice; but not in a bad way e.g. penalties lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetBlue Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 Just now, j4jets said: At least he has Robbie Anderson to drop his passes. Seriously, J, you need to stop. Give the kid his due; he made several clutch catches that in traffic. Did he drop a few? Yes he did. I know you already know this but I will say it anyway. HE....IS....A.....ROOKIE (An undrafted one at that). He needs to get better but seriously, give the guy a break. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 23 minutes ago, Warfish said: I'm rather sure our GM knows these variables are in place, and will judge accordingly. I hope you are right, but it is as important that the coach does this as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 21 minutes ago, JETSfaninNE said: Agreed as well as C. Not sure if Mangold is going to stick around or even possibly retire after this year. He's had some bad injuries that can cause you to really consider retirement, especially last year with that neck injury. Wesley Johnson has been surprisingly decent. I think they will be fine at that spot. LT is my biggest concern. Besides Clady (who has been on IR 3x in 3 years) they don't have an LT on the roster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gen X Jet Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 Hopefully Petty doesn't become a "Shell" of a man or "Shell" shocked for that matter. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snell41 Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 I'm not sure what the issue is, everyone was fine, including me, evaluating Geno when his best WR was David Nelson. If Bryce Petty sucks it's because he sucks. If his line is failing him he should be smart enough to know where the outlet pass is.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 21 minutes ago, Snell41 said: I'm not sure what the issue is, everyone was fine, including me, evaluating Geno when his best WR was David Nelson. If Bryce Petty sucks it's because he sucks. If his line is failing him he should be smart enough to know where the outlet pass is. this is actually a great point for years Jets fans have been focused on improving the weaponz or the line to help the young QB. What we've forgotten is that a legit Qb succeeds no matter who is around him. A guy that needs everything to be perfect to have a functional offense isn't a real QB. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JETSfaninNE Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 53 minutes ago, bitonti said: Wesley Johnson has been surprisingly decent. I think they will be fine at that spot. LT is my biggest concern. Besides Clady (who has been on IR 3x in 3 years) they don't have an LT on the roster. I do think he has been a solid replacement but I'm not sold on him for a long term option just yet. I'd still like to see us draft one this year if there are worthy prospects when we pick. But LT is absolutely the biggest need on the OL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 7 minutes ago, JETSfaninNE said: this year if there are worthy prospects when we pick. But LT is absolutely the biggest need on the OL there are no LT in the draft worth a top 10 pick, that is fairly easy to predict at this point. and it's hard to find LT outside of the first round, that's also backed up by history. assuming they move on from Clady they probably have to sign a FA like Matt Kalil or Luke Joeckel. Maybe Whitworth on a short term deal but he's wearing down too. http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents/left-tackle/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JETSfaninNE Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 8 minutes ago, bitonti said: there are no LT in the draft worth a top 10 pick, that is fairly easy to predict at this point. and it's hard to find LT outside of the first round, that's also backed up by history. assuming they move on from Clady they probably have to sign a FA like Matt Kalil or Luke Joeckel. Maybe Whitworth on a short term deal but he's wearing down too. http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents/left-tackle/ I haven't started to look at the draft prospects yet so this is a real bummer to hear Hoping Macc and his team have a good idea how they will approach this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAR I Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 2 hours ago, peebag said: dear god...is this true? "Head Coach Todd Bowles told the media that rookie right tackle Brandon Shell would get the nod if Brent Qvale can’t go, but whoever it is will be facing Cameron Wake, the Dolphins best pass-rusher, and neither is good enough to neutralize him consistently. Look for a multi-sack day out of Wake" And who has the Dolphins defense in the Fantasy Football playoffs? Boom. SAR I Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnysd Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 2 hours ago, JoJoTownsell1 said: Most rookie QBs have to deal with a weak supporting cast. At least Petty has some decent WRs to target and either Powell or Forte in the backfield. Not ideal, but sometimes you can tell a lot about a QB from the way he handles adversity. He passed the first adversity test with flying colors in my opinion 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j4jets Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 3 hours ago, JetBlue said: Seriously, J, you need to stop. Give the kid his due; he made several clutch catches that in traffic. Did he drop a few? Yes he did. I know you already know this but I will say it anyway. HE....IS....A.....ROOKIE (An undrafted one at that). He needs to get better but seriously, give the guy a break. He gets open on most plays, so I do give him that. could've very easily had 300+ receiving yards in the last two games alone as he dropped a few deep bombs. Im not on his case though. He's probably our best player from this draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Mostro Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 Hey, Petty has looked pretty good when he has been on the move. Maybe better than sitting back in the pocket. He might be just fine -- in any event, it will be fun to find out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadetree Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 I bet the 10,000 people who are going to the game will be excited to see how our back up LT and QB, who should have started 4 weeks ago, fare. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurnleyJet Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 We could have put more ammo in the trade up for Tunsil. It's ok we have a Tiny Linebacker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoot-Face Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 There should be a forum rule about dickish thread titles that mislead you into thinking someone has died. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoot-Face Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 5 hours ago, joewilly12 said: Shame on you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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