drdetroit Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 Praying this guy falls to us at 37 because only other way we get him is if we trade down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 The problem of how the current NY Jets use their players crops up unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PepPep Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 I like this kid a lot. I think NFL teams will pretty much ignore his weaknesses as a blocker b/c of his size, athleticism and potential as an offensive weapon. Jimmy Graham is a good comparison. Having said that, I doubt he falls to the second round. I would imagine a 'contender' team scoops him up late in the first. The Cowboys would be a prime candidate to do so. Should the Jets take him in the first round if they trade down? I don't think so. He would be a luxury pick for them. And with Enunwa playing the role of 'split end', the Jets need a balanced TE who can block. I'm thinking a guy like Jordan Leggett out of Clemson. Maybe in the 3rd (especially if we have 2 third rounders via trade). In the first, I would look at OT, Pass Rusher or CB if the Jets were to trade down. Best case scenario is that one of the top 3 OTs (Robinson, McGlinchey, Ramczyk) is there. Ramczyk should certainly be there if he declares due to the recent news that he will have surgery and be out 4 months, missing the combine and Pro Day. You take a top OT early (weak position in the draft), add draft picks down the line, and focus on positions of need that happen to be deep in this draft (CB, Pass Rusher, TE, RB). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted December 21, 2016 Author Share Posted December 21, 2016 7 hours ago, PepPep said: I like this kid a lot. I think NFL teams will pretty much ignore his weaknesses as a blocker b/c of his size, athleticism and potential as an offensive weapon. Jimmy Graham is a good comparison. Having said that, I doubt he falls to the second round. I would imagine a 'contender' team scoops him up late in the first. The Cowboys would be a prime candidate to do so. Should the Jets take him in the first round if they trade down? I don't think so. He would be a luxury pick for them. And with Enunwa playing the role of 'split end', the Jets need a balanced TE who can block. I'm thinking a guy like Jordan Leggett out of Clemson. Maybe in the 3rd (especially if we have 2 third rounders via trade). In the first, I would look at OT, Pass Rusher or CB if the Jets were to trade down. Best case scenario is that one of the top 3 OTs (Robinson, McGlinchey, Ramczyk) is there. Ramczyk should certainly be there if he declares due to the recent news that he will have surgery and be out 4 months, missing the combine and Pro Day. You take a top OT early (weak position in the draft), add draft picks down the line, and focus on positions of need that happen to be deep in this draft (CB, Pass Rusher, TE, RB). Howard would be a luxury pick but damn is he going to be good in the NFL. He'd instantaneously make Decker or Marshall expendable Hunter Henry and OJ Howard are going to be the top 2 TE's in the NFL next 10 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted December 21, 2016 Author Share Posted December 21, 2016 On December 20, 2016 at 0:15 PM, Beerfish said: The problem of how the current NY Jets use their players crops up unfortunately. Is it Gailey's system or is it just that Fitz was a crappy QB who always threw to his first read which was Marshall? Petty has thrown quite a bit to Sefarian Jenkins last couple games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirorob Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 Just now, drdetroit said: Is it Gailey's system or is it just that Fitz was a crappy QB who always threw to his first read which was Marshall? Petty has thrown quite a bit to Sefarian Jenkins last couple games Gailey has never really had a TE to speak of. Fitz locked onto Marshall. You can tell Petty has worked a lot with the backups, that's why he likes Jenkins and Robby Anderson so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted December 21, 2016 Author Share Posted December 21, 2016 8 minutes ago, chirorob said: Gailey has never really had a TE to speak of. Fitz locked onto Marshall. You can tell Petty has worked a lot with the backups, that's why he likes Jenkins and Robby Anderson so much. Tony Gonzalez had one of his best ever seasons with Gailey as OC. Howard would simply line up wide or in the slot And your assuming we don't clean house with the coaching staff which is still possible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirorob Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 3 minutes ago, drdetroit said: Tony Gonzalez had one of his best ever seasons with Gailey as OC. Howard would simply line up wide or in the slot And your assuming we don't clean house with the coaching staff which is still possible Forgot about Gonzalez, thank you. More defending Gailey, you throw to what you have. I like him, I don't blame him. If you don't fire the HC, I keep him. Special teams? Worst in the NFL, that dude need to go. It's not on Gailey that 4 O linemen are hurt, and I think he wanted to go to Petty earlier. For the draft, I'm all about trading down, getting picks, and drafting talent. The team needs EVERYTHING. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted December 21, 2016 Author Share Posted December 21, 2016 Just now, chirorob said: Forgot about Gonzalez, thank you. More defending Gailey, you throw to what you have. I like him, I don't blame him. If you don't fire the HC, I keep him. Special teams? Worst in the NFL, that dude need to go. It's not on Gailey that 4 O linemen are hurt, and I think he wanted to go to Petty earlier. For the draft, I'm all about trading down, getting picks, and drafting talent. The team needs EVERYTHING. I wouldn't mind firing Bowles and promoting Gailey to HC. We really need to clean house in addition to Bowles the DC Rodgers is totally inept and has to go as does the special teams coach like you said Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirorob Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 Just now, drdetroit said: I wouldn't mind firing Bowles and promoting Gailey to HC. We really need to clean house in addition to Bowles the DC Rodgers is totally inept and has to go as does the special teams coach like you said I could see that. Wouldn't have a problem with it. I've said before, there isn't that stud top 3 QB this year, so changing the offense with 2 young QBs is not going to help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted December 25, 2016 Share Posted December 25, 2016 I like Evan Engram. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony The Wiz Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 On 12/20/2016 at 0:23 PM, drdetroit said: Praying this guy falls to us at 37 because only other way we get him is if we trade down Way too early !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted December 27, 2016 Author Share Posted December 27, 2016 20 hours ago, Tony The Wiz said: Way too early !!! Is someone talking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ComfortablyNumb Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 The next Jimmy Graham comes from the same school Graham went to. David Njoku officially declared. Look him up. SPECIMEN Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thadude Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 Is a stud. Not only a great receiver but can block too. I wouldn't have a problem taking him at 5 overall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harlemnite1 Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 On 12/20/2016 at 8:23 PM, drdetroit said: Praying this guy falls to us at 37 because only other way we get him is if we trade down Would be al for it if the Jets actually threw to a TE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony The Wiz Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 Was a 5 star recruit but sometimes in a game he is invisible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mecca Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 Njoku will be the better pro.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bealeb319 Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 Praying this guy falls to us at 37 because only other way we get him is if we trade down Jimmy Graham is not a blocking tightend we have enough recievers, also as much as the announcers knock us for not having a good tight end enunwa really fills the role and has filled it well. Aside from enunwa we have asj who is a very talented project who should be decent after building a little chemistry. Honestly to even think about a tight end in the draft with so many other needs is setting yourself up to be disappointed.Sent from my LG-D850 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thadude Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 2 minutes ago, bealeb319 said: Jimmy Graham is not a blocking tightend we have enough recievers, This guy actually blocks. Drafting by need is the dumbest thing to do. It's part of the reason we're in this mess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bealeb319 Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 This guy actually blocks. Drafting by need is the dumbest thing to do. It's part of the reason we're in this mess. I don't disagree that drafting for need is stupid but a tight end especially early for us would be a luxury pick. It would be the same as drafting a de when we already have two good ones even though that ended up working out pretty well for us. Sent from my LG-D850 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 The Miami TE, Engram, and the VT TE all seem like they could be gets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thadude Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 2 hours ago, bealeb319 said: I don't disagree that drafting for need is stupid but a tight end especially early for us would be a luxury pick. How is a tight end a "luxury pick"? We haven't had a good Tight End since the 80's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bealeb319 Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 How is a tight end a "luxury pick"? We haven't had a good Tight End since the 80's Enunwa is our tight end in everything but label and is excelling in that role? Aside from that we have a pretty decent prospect in ASJ. Early in the draft we need oline, secondary, pass rush positions that are hard to find in free agency and disappear early in the draft. We should not reach for need but with where we are drafting we should have a few good prospects at key positions to choose from.Sent from my LG-D850 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thadude Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 On 1/2/2017 at 10:11 PM, bealeb319 said: Enunwa is our tight end Really? I didn't know Enunwa blocked LB's and DE's in-line. I guess he was lined up wide just for the fun of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thadude Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 68 yd touchdown catch in the natl championship game so forget about him being there at 38 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King P Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 Actually, this guy is the next Jimmy Graham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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