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This roster is atrocious. That's not on the coach. 

Sheer and utter nonsense, you're a better poster than this carl you are into whofans territory here. Almost all moves the jets have made the last few years have NOT been rebuild moves. The l

This is not what it looks like. A rebuild involves lots of losing.  Not quitting and a lack of effort.

11 minutes ago, CrazyCarl40 said:

This is a rebuild. We all knew that. This is what it looks like. 

Sheer and utter nonsense, you're a better poster than this carl you are into whofans territory here.

Almost all moves the jets have made the last few years have NOT been rebuild moves.

The lack of talent has nothing to do with the way this team is playing.  The coach is getting nothing out of his vets, and is owned against each and every other coaching staff.

They screw up the simplest of decisions in game and roster wise, their schemes are easily figured out,.

On principle a person would say you can;t fire a coach after two years but each and every game these guys show they have no clue at all, none.  Out coached and out played badly each game. 

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I still do not believe he should be fired.  Yes, this year has been awful...but they're the most banged up team in the league, he has no QB, old and slow LB's and corners...

Honestly, this is as much on the talent he's been given then his poor coaching - and it has been poor but he needs another year.

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4 minutes ago, Beerfish said:

Sheer and utter nonsense, your a better poster than this carl you are into whofans territory here.

Almost all moves the jets have made the last few years have NOT been rebuild moves.

The lack of talent has nothing to do with the way this team is playing.  The coach is getting nothing out of his vets, and is owned against each and every other coaching staff.

They screw up the simplest of decisions in game and roster wise, their schemes are easily figured out,.

On principle a person would say you can;t fire a coach after two years but each and every game these guys show they have no clue at all, none.  Out coached and out played badly each game. 

The moves have not been for a rebuild but the product on the field tells us there should be one. What coach makes this team better? Which one is coming here with zero viable QB options? Bowles may be culpable for it but the roster is hot garbage. 

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I say give Bowles a 10 year gone guaranteed no trade no firing contract. The way he has this team competing down the stretch of the season, is truly a testament to the man. Our superstar players are really leaving it all out there on that field today!

We need just this type of continuity.

 

 

 

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I agree the roster is awful but that doesn; t make the coaching display any better.  Take the roster totally out of the equation and look at all the moves aside from the roster and he still stinks.  I'd also say he is partly responsible for the bad roster in hoe he has handled things,  He is not getting any effort from some players that have ability.  He's a doormat with a false 'parcells like ' tough guy image. 

I liked bowles enough last year but waited for improvement.  He has been 100 times worse this year, roster or not.

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2 minutes ago, Joe W. Namath said:

Bowles needs to forsee our 2-14 season next year.  Then he gets canned and our new coach gets to pick our savior w/ the number 1 pick in the draft.

We need one more season of bowles to secure the number 1 pick in 2018.

Maybe it is the right strategy after all.  

 

Bowles + next year's schedule = 0-16

 

Which also =

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3 minutes ago, CrazyCarl40 said:

The moves have not been for a rebuild but the product on the field tells us there should be one. What coach makes this team better? Which one is coming here with zero viable QB options? Bowles may be culpable for it but the roster is hot garbage. 

Exactly.  The management of the Jets believed they were going to be a legitimate playoff contender.  This team was not built to rebuild - it was built to win now....

It's an absolute Cluster F---

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When the inevitable firing happens Woody needs to go out and bring in a legitimate Head Coach. 

My fear is they'll fire Bowles and hire another coordinator getting his first shot. I'm tired of going in that direction.

If they want to fire him, fine, but give me something different if you're going to do that.

An Offensive minded veteran Head Coach.

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Just now, Beerfish said:

I agree the roster is awful but that doesn; t make the coaching display any better.  Take the roster totally out of the equation and look at all the moves aside from the roster and he still stinks.  I'd also say he is partly responsible for the bad roster in hoe he has handled things,  He is not getting any effort from some players that have ability.  He's a doormat with a false 'parcells like ' tough guy image. 

I liked bowles enough last year but waited for improvement.  He has been 100 times worse this year, roster or not.

Our roster isn't that bad.  New England doesn't have that much a better roster overall the difference is Brady and Belichick.

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1 minute ago, RoadFan said:

This is not what it looks like. A rebuild involves lots of losing.  Not quitting and a lack of effort.

Players quitting and lack of effort are character issues. These are grown men. Macc brought them to the Jets. Can't make a grown man do what he doesn't want to do. 

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10 minutes ago, CrazyCarl40 said:

Players quitting and lack of effort are character issues. These are grown men. Macc brought them to the Jets. Can't make a grown man do what he doesn't want to do. 

He has absolutely no control over this team. No one cares. He's like your 6th grade gym teacher. Everyone just rolls their eyes.

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When the inevitable firing happens Woody needs to go out and bring in a legitimate Head Coach. 
My fear is they'll fire Bowles and hire another coordinator getting his first shot. I'm tired of going in that direction.
If they want to fire him, fine, but give me something different if you're going to do that.
An Offensive minded veteran Head Coach.


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55 minutes ago, drdetroit said:

I want to know how can anyone rationalize this coaching staff having another season.

Even if you hate Bowles there is a pretty good reason to keep him around...Here it is..

This team is going to be awful next year....No matter who the coach is - The second coming of Vince Lombardi won't help them.

Bring in a  new coach and the fans will be calling him an idiot and screaming for his head...Might as well let Bowles be the sacrificial lamb next year...And when you bring in a new coach in '18 he can start building on something.

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1 minute ago, FidelioJet said:

Even if you hate Bowles there is a pretty good reason to keep him around...Here it is..

This team is going to be awful next year....No matter who the coach is - The second coming of Vince Lombardi won't help them.

Bring in a  new coach and the fans will be calling him an idiot and screaming for his head...Might as well let Bowles be the sacrificial lamb next year...And when you bring in a new coach in '18 he can start building on something.

STOP 

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So basically here's what happened:

1. Sheldon gets crucified for dumb social media post. Bowles feigns outrage. Declares he'll do something.

2. Anoints Sheldon captain for the game.

3. Sheldon then leads the d-line in standing up on a goal line stand letting a RB walk into the end zone in the 3rd quarter.

Your HC of the NYJ, folks.

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1 minute ago, FidelioJet said:

Even if you hate Bowles there is a pretty good reason to keep him around...Here it is..

This team is going to be awful next year....No matter who the coach is - The second coming of Vince Lombardi won't help them.

Bring in a  new coach and the fans will be calling him an idiot and screaming for his head...Might as well let Bowles be the sacrificial lamb next year...And when you bring in a new coach in '18 he can start building on something.

Only problem with that is development... I guess you could argue that it's the other sub-coaches that do the real taining, developing, and teaching... But Bowles seems to suck at getting new guys up and running. He keeps them on the bench too long, doesn't put them into a position to succeed, and seems to basically not care about the offensive side of the ball..

You're right that maybe we would run a new coach out of town too, but maybe that coach is at least someone who works well with rookies and young talent and finds a way to at least improve their stock...

 

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2 minutes ago, joewilly12 said:

STOP 

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So when they win 4 games next year with the new coach you're not going to be calling him an idiot and screaming for him to be fired?

I can almost assure you, you will.  And they're not wining more than 4 games next year.

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