DMan77 Posted December 25, 2016 Share Posted December 25, 2016 The OL is too far gone right now. Honestly would be worried he gets hurt on his first play for holding the ball too long like Petty was doing. Other than QB as always, OL should be the #1, #2 and #3 thing on your list of things you hope the jets fix... An upgraded OL changes the total dynamic of this team... Then you can go give Petty or Hack a chance and see what they do with good to great protection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy2020 Posted December 25, 2016 Share Posted December 25, 2016 No, you can't play him. He'll suck and there will be no hope. If he doesn't play then he can always have "potential" to be good. If there's not the hope that Hackenberg is any good then think of how long the offseason will be arguing about which QB sucks worse.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Schroy Posted December 25, 2016 Share Posted December 25, 2016 8 hours ago, Ex-Rex said: Can't play a guy in the final game that hasn't taken a meaningful snap all season. This guy, along with Petty, Jace Amaro, McDougle etc are making Maccagnan look very bad. Then you have Hackenberg, a second round QB who has looked so bad that Petty actually looked good. Again, not good. I would say Mac needs to hit a home run in this offseason in the draft and free agency to save his job. Bowles, I think, is a goner. Mac didn't draft them. Jeez. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snell41 Posted December 26, 2016 Share Posted December 26, 2016 I knew someone was going to say that. You don't think there have some guys with all the skills to succeed but they weren't in the right place/situation. Derek Carr for example. Naturally Hack's fall from consensus #1 overall prospect would affect his psyche. Then you sit him all year- finally put him behind 5 soon to be pizza delivery guys on the O-line. Let him throw a couple picks and lose a spleen on a Petty hit and then let that be the feeling he's left with for the next 6 months of the off-season. Maybe it wouldn't go that way- but maybe it would and that simply isn't worth any big "evaluation" pearls we'll green from this one late season meaningless start. finish the redshirt, give him an off season of study and mechanics work and see you next spring. David Carr took a beating for 3 years straight. Even he was fine after one game.Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonmajet Posted December 26, 2016 Share Posted December 26, 2016 3 hours ago, Ken Shroy said: Mac didn't draft them. Jeez. Okay, fine, what about Sheldon? You going to tell me that wasn't Mac's fault too? Don't forget wasting a first on Milliner. That guy isn't even on a team. Geez.. You guys always sticking up for Mac. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted December 26, 2016 Share Posted December 26, 2016 5 minutes ago, bostonmajet said: Okay, fine, what about Sheldon? You going to tell me that wasn't Mac's fault too? Don't forget wasting a first on Milliner. That guy isn't even on a team. Geez.. You guys always sticking up for Mac. You realize Mac wasn't the GM in 2013 right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonmajet Posted December 26, 2016 Share Posted December 26, 2016 1 hour ago, drdetroit said: You realize Mac wasn't the GM in 2013 right? Sarcasm. Thought it was obvious... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRONX DUDE Posted December 26, 2016 Share Posted December 26, 2016 Follow 0 Should Jets play Hackenberg in final game????? Yes please do. Just End The Season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detectivekimble Posted December 26, 2016 Share Posted December 26, 2016 14 hours ago, ejgiant said: No question there are a lot of holes. No question that Bowles leaves a lot to be desired. No question that the OL is bad. But, Hackenberg should start the final game to maybe give the fans a slight glimmer of hope for the future. If he bombs, they are no worse off then they already are right now! Playing Fitzpatrick in the final game is a waste. The OL has already gotten two QBs killed. Imagine if Hack was seriously injured. He wouldn't be able to work on his game during the offseason because he'd be rehabbing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detectivekimble Posted December 26, 2016 Share Posted December 26, 2016 10 hours ago, Beerfish said: I truly hope that Hackenburg is not the type of player his biggest supporters say he is. (One who's confidence will be destroyed if he is asked to play under bad conditions.) People say they don;t want to start him too early ala Sanchez, Sanchez failed because he was coddled from day one so when he actually had to do more with a poorer team he fell flat on his ass. As for how to handle young qbs. The playoff bound Oakland raiders carried 3 qbs on their roster all year long. Connor cook was active for every game or so they said yesterday. So even though he has not played. he has been part of the team, on the sidelines, learning what it is really like game day and actually thinking there is an outside chance he will play. The jets strat is to keep this bubble wrap a guy who looks awful so far. No, he failed because he sucks. They couldn't trust him because he'd singlehandedly lose games. The 2009 team was 9-7 only because of Sanchez. They would have won more games with even mediocre QB play . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRONX DUDE Posted December 26, 2016 Share Posted December 26, 2016 Spoiler Spoiler Spoiler Spoiler C'mon guys let's get this over with. He sucks and we don't want to see endless threads during the off season as to why Bowles or Mac or Woodman would not give him a chance to suck vs the REX's next week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted December 26, 2016 Share Posted December 26, 2016 Play Hack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRONX DUDE Posted December 26, 2016 Share Posted December 26, 2016 1 hour ago, bostonmajet said: Sarcasm. Thought it was obvious... Yes fellas get used to it !!! Sarcasm is alive and well on JET NATION!!!!!!!!!!! Just End The Season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurnleyJet Posted December 26, 2016 Share Posted December 26, 2016 Anyway Fook that, I "can't wait" for this years Second round pick. I mean there must be a Place kicker we can draft with a broken leg. Or an upgradable 210 pound Linebacker to replace David Harris. Oh sorry we already have one.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted December 26, 2016 Share Posted December 26, 2016 Absolutely nothing to gain and everything to lose playing him this week. He absolutely should play. Nothing to lose. A lot to gain with a look. lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted December 26, 2016 Share Posted December 26, 2016 He probably discussed Hackenberg with Bill O'Brien when they were together in Houston. He was the only GM to go to his workout so there must have been some talk. I don't mind taking him. It's where he took him that was the problem. The conversation probably went like this:Macc: So what do you think about Christian?O'Brien: He's damaged goods. We're giving Brock Osweiler a giant bag of money instead.Macc: Well I think he's secretly, good.O'Brien: ..........Macc: [sips coffee]O'Brien: Good luck with that. [walks away] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted December 26, 2016 Share Posted December 26, 2016 David Carr took a beating for 3 years straight. Even he was fine after one game. If I recall, he beat the Cowboys in the franchise's debut and looked great. The problems most certainly came later with repeated blows from pass rushers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetFanWithNOPSL2017 Posted December 26, 2016 Share Posted December 26, 2016 Okay, fine, what about Sheldon? You going to tell me that wasn't Mac's fault too? Don't forget wasting a first on Milliner. That guy isn't even on a team. Geez.. You guys always sticking up for Mac. Actually NO All of those were drafted while Mike Maccagnan was with the Texans.Some Jet "fans" are unbelievable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetFanWithNOPSL2017 Posted December 26, 2016 Share Posted December 26, 2016 Play Hack. + a million Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassmaster2 Posted December 26, 2016 Share Posted December 26, 2016 Put Hack in the Bills game ,if the guy can't handle it cut him draft another QB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OH THE PAIN Posted December 26, 2016 Share Posted December 26, 2016 Hack needs live action ; he ain't learning nothing from holding a clipboard . Get his ass in live action . What kind of pussy coaching staff is this ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonmajet Posted December 26, 2016 Share Posted December 26, 2016 3 hours ago, JetFanWithNOPSL2017 said: Actually NO All of those were drafted while Mike Maccagnan was with the Texans. Some Jet "fans" are unbelievable We totally need a sarcasm flag on this site Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-met57 Posted December 26, 2016 Share Posted December 26, 2016 On 12/25/2016 at 8:58 AM, Ex-Rex said: Can't play a guy in the final game that hasn't taken a meaningful snap all season. This guy, along with Petty, Jace Amaro, McDougle etc are making Maccagnan look very bad. Then you have Hackenberg, a second round QB who has looked so bad that Petty actually looked good. Again, not good. I would say Mac needs to hit a home run in this offseason in the draft and free agency to save his job. Bowles, I think, is a goner. huh? werent those guys drafted by Idzik? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYJ37/12 Posted December 26, 2016 Share Posted December 26, 2016 Hell no! Whats the point behind this line? Let Fitz take the beating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-met57 Posted December 26, 2016 Share Posted December 26, 2016 i am kind of torn on the Hack thing... on one hand watching Hack is literally the only reason to tune into the final game... on the other hand, do you really want him to take a beating in week 17 playing with a team that's given up and go into the off-season on a low point? for me its the curiosity factor... is he as bad as he was in that preseason game where he went like a quarter without completing a pass to third stringers? or is he the guy who had that drive that ended with a TD to Robbie Anderson? either way i don't think we get the answer in one game with a bunch of checked out veterans. so i probably lean towards waiting... that being said...this FO's reputation hinges on the Hack pick for me. if they draft a guy in round 2 and he doesn't get into a game prior to them moving on from him, its obvious they are clueless. Macc gets 1 more draft, but his picks will be telling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted December 26, 2016 Share Posted December 26, 2016 I want him in there in the hopes of he has some success, even in a loss, that he can use as motivation this offseason. But I get the point of view that says keep him off the field because bad things are happening to the boys in green all year long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted December 26, 2016 Share Posted December 26, 2016 18 hours ago, DMan77 said: The OL is too far gone right now. Honestly would be worried he gets hurt on his first play for holding the ball too long like Petty was doing. Other than QB as always, OL should be the #1, #2 and #3 thing on your list of things you hope the jets fix... An upgraded OL changes the total dynamic of this team... Then you can go give Petty or Hack a chance and see what they do with good to great protection. Pretty reasonable point. Same reason you don't douse a kid in pigs blood and throw him in the ocean for swim lessons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantasy Island Posted December 26, 2016 Share Posted December 26, 2016 I want to see Hack out there because it will show just how clueless our FO is when it comes to the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted December 26, 2016 Share Posted December 26, 2016 12 hours ago, detectivekimble said: No, he failed because he sucks. They couldn't trust him because he'd singlehandedly lose games. The 2009 team was 9-7 only because of Sanchez. They would have won more games with even mediocre QB play . . . sanchez just never grew into the position. he stayed immature and still is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy 2 Times Posted December 26, 2016 Share Posted December 26, 2016 I'd play him. Run the ball a bunch and use a lot of max protection sets. Let him throw deep play action passes to 11 and 19. There's a way to protect and still let him wet his beak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flushing Roots Posted December 26, 2016 Share Posted December 26, 2016 12 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said: lol. Democracy at work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogglez Posted December 26, 2016 Share Posted December 26, 2016 12 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said: The conversation probably went like this: Macc: So what do you think about Christian? O'Brien: He's damaged goods. We're giving Brock Osweiler a giant bag of money instead. Macc: Well I think he's secretly, good. O'Brien: .......... Macc: [sips coffee] O'Brien: Good luck with that. [walks away] For the record, it was O'Brien who actually gave Macc a glowing review and said that he could potentially be "the guy". I'm at work, but there is an article out there that discusses it. Rumors in Houston at the time were that O'Brien wanted to actually draft him or one of the upper guys, but Rick Smith was dead set on getting Osweiler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brown Posted December 26, 2016 Share Posted December 26, 2016 6 hours ago, Fantasy Island said: I want to see Hack out there because it will show just how clueless our FO is when it comes to the draft. There was a posted article that said Hack couldn't make warm-up passes recently; no way should Hack see the field if that is even remotely true!! And I was for drafting him as a steal say in the fourth round!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted December 26, 2016 Share Posted December 26, 2016 at this point he should start. its not like he was a tennis player in college for crying out loud. if he literally isn't functional, macc and gailey should be fired Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Schroy Posted December 26, 2016 Share Posted December 26, 2016 21 hours ago, bostonmajet said: Okay, fine, what about Sheldon? You going to tell me that wasn't Mac's fault too? Don't forget wasting a first on Milliner. That guy isn't even on a team. Geez.. You guys always sticking up for Mac. Mac didn't draft them either. I am annoyed at Mac too. But your facts are wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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