RSJ Posted December 25, 2016 Share Posted December 25, 2016 Just now, UnitedWhofans said: Not if you want quality coaches to come for the job. Sacrifice a year for the reputation of the franchise being fair to employees Money talks. Harbaugh went to the 49ers after similar issues. Parcells came to the Jets after two years of Kotite and one year of Carroll. If Woody fires Bowles to pry away the LB coach from the Bucs then thanks Woody. We are talking get a legit NFL coach in here once and for all. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted December 25, 2016 Share Posted December 25, 2016 (edited) 1 minute ago, RSJ said: Money talks. Harbaugh went to the 49ers after similar issues. Parcells came to the Jets after two years of Kotite and one year of Carroll. If Woody fires Bowles to pry away the LB coach from the Bucs then thanks Woody. We are talking get a legit NFL coach in here once and for all. A Harbaugh Parcells type is the only type of coach I would make the move for. Anybody else, you might as well keep Bowles Cimini makes comparison to Steinbrenner in the 80s when the Yankees were laughed at for keeping firing managers Edited December 25, 2016 by UnitedWhofans Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurnleyJet Posted December 25, 2016 Share Posted December 25, 2016 2 minutes ago, UnitedWhofans said: Not if you want quality coaches to come for the job. Sacrifice a year for the reputation of the franchise being fair to employees They aren't blind either and can see what's going on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted December 25, 2016 Share Posted December 25, 2016 Just now, UnitedWhofans said: A Harbaugh Parcells type is the only type of coach I would make the move for. Anybody else, you might as well keep Bowes You literally can't hire anyone else next. No one is even remotely interested in watching this team play football right now. Bringing back Bowles is not going to build excitement and neither will the next Bucs DB coach turned head coach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted December 25, 2016 Share Posted December 25, 2016 1 minute ago, BurnleyJet said: They aren't blind either and can see what's going on. But they care about looking after number 1 and a job in which you might get fired despite winning 10 games might not seem a smart option or too stressful Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted December 25, 2016 Share Posted December 25, 2016 Cimini is a moron Y do you guys even listen to anything this guy says? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted December 25, 2016 Share Posted December 25, 2016 Just now, drdetroit said: Cimini is a moron Y do you guys even listen to anything this guy says? Rarely the blind squirrel finds a nut Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted December 25, 2016 Share Posted December 25, 2016 1 minute ago, UnitedWhofans said: But they care about looking after number 1 and a job in which you might get fired despite winning 10 games might not seem a smart option or too stressful They see what is happening though. It's more than just going 4-12. This team is on pace to break the 1996 teams records for losing. The 1996 team was more competitive. Despite the early wins and an OT win against a horrible 49ers team this is an all time bad team right now. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted December 25, 2016 Share Posted December 25, 2016 2 minutes ago, UnitedWhofans said: Rarely the blind squirrel finds a nut Yeah I get it your this big contrarian Bowles is garbage. Ok yay let's wait one more season to fire him The point is to get better not except horrid football and a coaching staff that would get fired by any other owner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted December 25, 2016 Share Posted December 25, 2016 Just now, RSJ said: They see what is happening though. It's more than just going 4-12. This team is on pace to break the 1996 teams records for losing. The 1996 team was more competitive. Despite the early wins and an OT win against a horrible 49ers team this is an all time bad team right now. 4-12 is better than 1-15. The Jets were ranked 8th in top ten jobs possibilities in the NFL. If Bowles is fired after 2 years, they drop to 10th. They become the worst job in the NFL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted December 25, 2016 Share Posted December 25, 2016 15 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: Are you Todd Bowles or his wife? Might be his agent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted December 25, 2016 Share Posted December 25, 2016 1 minute ago, UnitedWhofans said: 4-12 is better than 1-15. The Jets were ranked 8th in top ten jobs possibilities in the NFL. If Bowles is fired after 2 years, they drop to 10th. They become the worst job in the NFL So what's your point? We might hire a worse head coach than Bowels? That would be very difficult to do 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RSJ Posted December 25, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted December 25, 2016 Just now, UnitedWhofans said: 4-12 is better than 1-15. The Jets were ranked 8th in top ten jobs possibilities in the NFL. If Bowles is fired after 2 years, they drop to 10th. They become the worst job in the NFL The Jets have lost 3 games by 7 points or less. The 1996 team lost 8 games by 7 points or less. They need to give up one more point this season to have given up the most amount of points since 1996. Are they worse than 1996? Idk, its debatable. But the fact that its debatable is enough to fire the HC imo. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurnleyJet Posted December 25, 2016 Share Posted December 25, 2016 1 minute ago, UnitedWhofans said: But they care about looking after number 1 and a job in which you might get fired despite winning 10 games might not seem a smart option or too stressful And I care about the Jets. There are only 32 jobs in the whole World. The Jets aren't a hire and fire franchise. Bowles had Proven to be not up to the task. The ten win season was a smoke screen. Easy schedule, and they bottled it when it counts (both Bills games.) His teams aren't prepared. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted December 25, 2016 Share Posted December 25, 2016 The fact that Mangini is going to have the same record as Bowles and people believe that one was right to have been brought back over the other suggests something else. Bottom line: A coach's job is to win games. Period. Don't care about strength of schedule. Just win games. Mangini had one good year and one bad year. Stayed. Bowles had one good year and one bad year. Logically. He should stay. if you don't get this, then I don't know what to say. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted December 25, 2016 Share Posted December 25, 2016 2 minutes ago, BurnleyJet said: And I care about the Jets. There are only 32 jobs in the whole World. The Jets aren't a hire and fire franchise. Bowles had Proven to be not up to the task. The ten win season was a smoke screen. Easy schedule, and they bottled it when it counts (both Bills games.) His teams aren't prepared. It might be a smokescreen. But a coach's job is to win games and he did it. Don't care how, but he did it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted December 25, 2016 Share Posted December 25, 2016 1 minute ago, UnitedWhofans said: The fact that Mangini is going to have the same record as Bowles and people believe that one was right to have been brought back over the other suggests something else. Bottom line: A coach's job is to win games. Period. Don't care about strength of schedule. Just win games. Mangini had one good year and one bad year. Stayed. Bowles had one good year and one bad year. Logically. He should stay. if you don't get this, then I don't know what to say. Mangini mage the playoffs. He didnt choke. And his 2007 team wasn't a complete f!ckshow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted December 25, 2016 Share Posted December 25, 2016 2 minutes ago, UnitedWhofans said: The fact that Mangini is going to have the same record as Bowles and people believe that one was right to have been brought back over the other suggests something else. Bottom line: A coach's job is to win games. Period. Don't care about strength of schedule. Just win games. Mangini had one good year and one bad year. Stayed. Bowles had one good year and one bad year. Logically. He should stay. if you don't get this, then I don't know what to say. We should have been fired Mangini after year 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted December 25, 2016 Share Posted December 25, 2016 Just now, RSJ said: Mangini mage the playoffs. He didnt choke. And his 2007 team wasn't a complete f!ckshow And all that got him was an extra loss to New England and a lower draft pick. I remember the 2007 Jets getting blasted on Thanksgiving by the Cowboys. I think that's a sh*t show Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted December 25, 2016 Share Posted December 25, 2016 2 minutes ago, drdetroit said: We should have been fired Mangini after year 2. Maybe so, but the precedent has been set. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted December 25, 2016 Share Posted December 25, 2016 6 minutes ago, UnitedWhofans said: And all that got him was an extra loss to New England and a lower draft pick. I remember the 2007 Jets getting blasted on Thanksgiving by the Cowboys. I think that's a sh*t show So by your calculation Bowles needs to not only come back next year but come back and be 10-6 with a playoff birth to save his job. What do you think the odds are that happens? Considering no one on this team seems to even want or even know how to play the game of football I am gonna say pretty slim. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BurnleyJet Posted December 25, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted December 25, 2016 1 minute ago, UnitedWhofans said: The fact that Mangini is going to have the same record as Bowles and people believe that one was right to have been brought back over the other suggests something else. Bottom line: A coach's job is to win games. Period. Don't care about strength of schedule. Just win games. Mangini had one good year and one bad year. Stayed. Bowles had one good year and one bad year. Logically. He should stay. if you don't get this, then I don't know what to say. Bowles:- Teams unprepared. Terrible clock management. Undisciplined. Zero in game adjustments. Players just don't play. Lost the dressing room. No sack, plays scared. In fact just about every trait in a HC I don't want. Mangini could coach, he got stiffed after Brett's arm fell off. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurnleyJet Posted December 25, 2016 Share Posted December 25, 2016 3 minutes ago, RSJ said: So by your calculation Bowles needs to not only come back next year but come back and be 10-6 with a playoff birth to save his job. What do you think the odds are that happens? Considering no one on this team seems to even want to play the game of football next year I am gonna say pretty slim. Bingo, if he comes back, it's win now or lame duck HC. Count me out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted December 25, 2016 Share Posted December 25, 2016 Just now, BurnleyJet said: Bingo, if he come back, it's win now or lame duck HC. Count me out. It makes no sense. I am one of the most die hard Jets fans I know. I am posting about the Jets while my wife is yelling at me to get ready for dinner on Christmas. But if Bowles is back you wont see me here much until this time next season. I just can't do it anymore. This team is beyond reparable with Bowles as the coach. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnJ Posted December 25, 2016 Share Posted December 25, 2016 4 hours ago, joewilly12 said: Cimini and Mehta are regarded as garbage reporters arent they by most Jets fans. Don't let that stop you from posting any of Mehta's drivel tho 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted December 25, 2016 Share Posted December 25, 2016 2 minutes ago, BurnleyJet said: Bingo, if he come back, it's win now or lame duck HC. Count me out. Which is why the only way I would make a move is to get a proven head coach who can get the team to play better. Anything short of that, the team is going to suck anyway and why drag another inexperienced head coach into this mess, unless they get lucky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurnleyJet Posted December 25, 2016 Share Posted December 25, 2016 1 minute ago, RSJ said: It makes no sense. I am one of the most die hard Jets fans I know. I am posting about the Jets while my wife is yelling at me to get ready for dinner on Christmas. But if Bowles is back you wont see me here much until this time next season. I just can't do it anymore. This team is beyond reparable with Bowles as the coach. I hear you, a Rex final FU to the Jets could well finish Bowles off. Every game we play now is a beat down. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMan77 Posted December 25, 2016 Share Posted December 25, 2016 I think Bowles is a good coordinator and a good man... But I think he lacks the talent to keep men in line in that locker room... Now yes, a lot of that is on the players acting like children... But someone needs to nip this kind of thing and it's not Bowles.. If you told me that next year we would have the best lockerroom and leadership within it, I'd be cool with giving Bowles a chance again... Maybe with a overhauled roster, things are different and they listen. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted December 25, 2016 Share Posted December 25, 2016 12 minutes ago, BurnleyJet said: I hear you, a Rex final FU to the Jets could well finish Bowles off. Every game we play now is a beat down. Yeah I am hoping. Otherwise we will probably be looking at a 9-7 season with Bruce Ariens as out OC and Palmer as our QB against a weak schedule. Wash. Rinse. Repeat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted December 25, 2016 Share Posted December 25, 2016 4 minutes ago, DMan77 said: I think Bowles is a good coordinator and a good man... But I think he lacks the talent to keep men in line in that locker room... Now yes, a lot of that is on the players acting like children... But someone needs to nip this kind of thing and it's not Bowles.. If you told me that next year we would have the best lockerroom and leadership within it, I'd be cool with giving Bowles a chance again... Maybe with a overhauled roster, things are different and they listen. It's not just Bowles who deserves to get fired the entire staff deserves to lose their jobs The defense is atrocious, special teams is literally a joke, our OC can't develop a Qb and there's no reason to keep the same playbook neither Petty nor Hack are the answer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted December 25, 2016 Share Posted December 25, 2016 Carroll was 43. no comparison Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetFanWithNOPSL2017 Posted December 25, 2016 Share Posted December 25, 2016 Are you Todd Bowles or his wife? Please mods....HELP 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRONX DUDE Posted December 25, 2016 Share Posted December 25, 2016 5 hours ago, peebag said: Keeping Bowles next year just prolongs the firing one year - no one is going to advocate keeping him after another 4-5 win season which is happening next year. This ain't a over night fix - so either you commit to the guy long term 4-5 years or you cut him loose now and begin the long rebuild process with a new guy - Bowles should be toast Who says he can win 4-5 games at this stage.. Let's go for the 0-16 SHUTOUT while were at it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnysd Posted December 25, 2016 Share Posted December 25, 2016 6 hours ago, UnitedWhofans said: This is not an endorsement of Bowles by any stretch. The problem is who is that HC? Just not a valid answer for keeping a HC as deeply flawed as Bowles. He literally has nothing you can point to as a strength. Between college and the pros there are probably at least 100 viable HC candidates, so the right guy is out there. You just have to use the right evaluation criteria. Personally I would start by looking at NFL special teams coaches and college HCs with NFL experience that have demonstrated the ability to build a team from young players and excel at coaching up players, and that have offensive experience especially in developing the QB Now if Bowles is fired and Woody looks for the flavor of the year DC again trying to find the next Parcells/Belichick we will just make a lateral move. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted December 25, 2016 Share Posted December 25, 2016 1 minute ago, BRONX DUDE said: Who says he can win 4-5 games at this stage.. Let's go for the 0-16 SHUTOUT while were at it. I'm down. Bowles at HC, Petty at qb we should be good for 0-16 next season and the number one pick Lamar Jackson 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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