Freemanm Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 Relax everyone, it's the QB situation more than anything. Anyone remember '02, when we were 1-3 and had a slow, aging defense and an offense that was going nowhere? In stepped our last franchise QB, Chad Pennington, and everything seemed to improve. Even our d suddenly got better. Chad's career was a tragedy, because he was an incredibly talented QB, I don't care what anyone says. Just look at our records during seasons when he was healthy. i know it's easier said than done, but when we find our next franchise QB, we're going to be doing well again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenwave81 Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 On 12/26/2016 at 11:06 AM, Jetster said: I can't stand Todd Bowles & this coaching staff but we have to keep him as cannon fodder in 2017. The Jets are such a mess right now that no coach (no good proven coach) will want this job. It's amazing to me that we went from having 12 draft picks in 2014 to this. The only way I wouldn't keep Bowles is if the Redskins screw up the Cousins signing & we stole him. Obviously a dream scenario but if it happened I'd fire Bowles & go with Kyle Shanahan in a NY minute. Then my alarm clock would wake me up to the realization that our QBs are Petty & Hack. To me this is loser thinking.... If they can Bowles without any other changes, you're correct...gonna be a hard sell to get someone of significance. But that's not the only way to do things... If Coughlin is 'interviewing' in Buffalo, why not 'interview' him here...not necessarily for HC (though I wouldn't mind it at all), but see what he wants. Does he only want to be a HC on the sidelines? How about President of Football operations here? What this team needs is credibility...Parcells gave it some when he was here (not assessing his performance, just his 'effect' on the franchise is all)....Coughlin in a senior position would lend some credibility as a stabilizing force to attract talent on the coaching side. Thoughts? On 12/26/2016 at 11:06 AM, Jetster said: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 2 hours ago, Sarge4Tide said: Rumor is Marvin Lewis is out in Cincinnati. That might be an attractive job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 24 minutes ago, greenwave81 said: To me this is loser thinking.... If they can Bowles without any other changes, you're correct...gonna be a hard sell to get someone of significance. But that's not the only way to do things... If Coughlin is 'interviewing' in Buffalo, why not 'interview' him here...not necessarily for HC (though I wouldn't mind it at all), but see what he wants. Does he only want to be a HC on the sidelines? How about President of Football operations here? What this team needs is credibility...Parcells gave it some when he was here (not assessing his performance, just his 'effect' on the franchise is all)....Coughlin in a senior position would lend some credibility as a stabilizing force to attract talent on the coaching side. Thoughts? Brilliant. Pay him like a HC, but he can be Director of Football Opertions and still live in Jax half the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 2 hours ago, Sarge4Tide said: Rumor is Marvin Lewis is out in Cincinnati. That might be an attractive job. Seriously? They hardly gave that guy a chance! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 1 hour ago, LIJetsFan said: It's only a pipe dream but I'd love to bring Payton Manning in and give his the keys to the franchise; total control. We missed out on him as a QB and wouldn't it be great to have a second shot at him as the GM/HC. It would be intriguing but how about as OC first? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Schroy Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 When Woody is quiet, he is getting ready to fire someone. Please make it happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 Todd Bowles sucks petty will be the starting QB next year and he sucks too We will be lucky to go 3-13 Woody thinks he's doing something important as the ambassador to Aruba #becomeagiantsfan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy2020 Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 On 12/26/2016 at 11:14 AM, joewilly12 said: The fact that Woody Johnson has basically gone into hiding tells me he's getting ready for Black Monday and there will be major changes here. We could be looking for a GM and a head coach. He's not in hiding. He's getting ready to become an ambassador and doesn't want a scandal with the all the waste his team dumps in jersey every Sunday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantasy Island Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 9 hours ago, Gen X Jet said: Korn/Ferry, Charley Casserly, who's next? Moe, Larry and Curly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Schroy Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 6 hours ago, jeremy2020 said: He's not in hiding. He's getting ready to become an ambassador and doesn't want a scandal with the all the waste his team dumps in jersey every Sunday. Making a comment about the HC or the general play of the team is NOT a scandal. However, this teams performance this year IS a scandal or at the very least, theft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 10 hours ago, greenwave81 said: To me this is loser thinking.... If they can Bowles without any other changes, you're correct...gonna be a hard sell to get someone of significance. But that's not the only way to do things... If Coughlin is 'interviewing' in Buffalo, why not 'interview' him here...not necessarily for HC (though I wouldn't mind it at all), but see what he wants. Does he only want to be a HC on the sidelines? How about President of Football operations here? What this team needs is credibility...Parcells gave it some when he was here (not assessing his performance, just his 'effect' on the franchise is all)....Coughlin in a senior position would lend some credibility as a stabilizing force to attract talent on the coaching side. Thoughts? Fully agreed about bringing in Coughlin in some capacity. I'd love for him to be President of Football Operations. Heck, even if he wanted to coach for a couple of years and then move to that role I'd be more than fine with it. Coughlin is a winner/legend/HOFer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southtown24th Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 Fire Gailey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munchmemory Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 Just now, southtown24th said: Fire Gailey With the rest of the coaching staff starting with Bowles? Definitely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighPitch Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 On 12/26/2016 at 0:31 PM, JetFanWithNOPSL2017 said: Mr rumors and no facts back again with the same boring opinions we have all heard from him hundreds of times every week Why are you always attacking joewilly12? Put him on ignore Joewilly dont takw the bait Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 23 hours ago, NYJ37/12 said: Bills looking to get the jump on Coughlin Bills likely to hire Lynn permanently, because big name coach prospects don't want to work with Doug Whaley. Quote The Buffalo News' Vic Carucci reports "every indication from within One Bills Drive" is that Buffalo has settled on promoting OC Anthony Lynn to head coach in 2017. According to Carucci, the Bills aren't going to get serious outside interest in the head-coaching post because prospective "big-name" candidates don't want to work with GM Doug Whaley. As the leader of the "search," Whaley's job appears secure, and he will maintain control of the 53-man roster. That won't fly with guys like Josh McDaniels, Jon Gruden, Tom Coughlin, and any other "name" candidate. McDaniels allegedly has interest, but he wants control of the roster. Lynn would be getting his first coaching opportunity, so he'd be in no position to make those demands. He's the heavy favorite in the clubhouse for the full-time gig. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSteve Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 On 2016-12-26 at 0:14 PM, joewilly12 said: The fact that Woody Johnson has basically gone into hiding tells me he's getting ready for Black Monday and there will be major changes here. We could be looking for a GM and a head coach. I don't think Mac goes anywhere....A because he shouldn't, but B I think the PR nightmare would be terrible for Woody. Firing his 2nd GM after two years, and also after this was a GM hand-picked by the consulting team Woody hired? Bowles....touch and go. But I think he gets one more year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 On 12/26/2016 at 0:06 PM, Jetster said: I can't stand Todd Bowles & this coaching staff but we have to keep him as cannon fodder in 2017. The Jets are such a mess right now that no coach (no good proven coach) will want this job. It's amazing to me that we went from having 12 draft picks in 2014 to this. The only way I wouldn't keep Bowles is if the Redskins screw up the Cousins signing & we stole him. Obviously a dream scenario but if it happened I'd fire Bowles & go with Kyle Shanahan in a NY minute. Then my alarm clock would wake me up to the realization that our QBs are Petty & Hack. Petty actually showed signs of being a decent play action QB. This would align with Shannahan's offense quite well. Might not be as terrible as you think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetFanWithNOPSL2017 Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 Why are you always attacking joewilly12? Put him on ignore Joewilly dont takw the bait 1. You're about a day late and a dollar short. On ignore since yesterday2. Also, mind your own beeswax Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 5 minutes ago, CanadaSteve said: I don't think Mac goes anywhere....A because he shouldn't, but B I think the PR nightmare would be terrible for Woody. Firing his 2nd GM after two years, and also after this was a GM hand-picked by the consulting team Woody hired? Bowles....touch and go. But I think he gets one more year. Mac shouldn't be fired. Not every move has been perfect, but he's done more good than bad here. Bowles on the other hand, I don't care if he gets fired. Looking back on his hiring, I think Woody was in a staring contest with ATL over Dan Quinn, and Woody blinked first because the media was painting a picture that the Jets would miss out on Quinn, Bowles and had just sh*t all over the Jets for being connected to Doug Marrone. What I'm basically saying is that Woody hired Casserly/Wolf, but ultimately deferred to the perception created by the media as they trolled Jet fans with worst case scenarios. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYJ37/12 Posted December 28, 2016 Author Share Posted December 28, 2016 22 minutes ago, Integrity28 said: Bills likely to hire Lynn permanently, because big name coach prospects don't want to work with Doug Whaley. makes sense but I did hear they plan to speak with Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 Jets have to move on from Bowles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 1 hour ago, munchmemory said: With the rest of the coaching staff starting with Bowles? Definitely. Yes please So many lame excuses for these clowns Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JETSfaninNE Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 2 hours ago, Integrity28 said: Mac shouldn't be fired. Not every move has been perfect, but he's done more good than bad here. Bowles on the other hand, I don't care if he gets fired. Looking back on his hiring, I think Woody was in a staring contest with ATL over Dan Quinn, and Woody blinked first because the media was painting a picture that the Jets would miss out on Quinn, Bowles and had just sh*t all over the Jets for being connected to Doug Marrone. What I'm basically saying is that Woody hired Casserly/Wolf, but ultimately deferred to the perception created by the media as they trolled Jet fans with worst case scenarios. I was looking back at this recently and originally Woody wanted Doug Marrone but then Manish Mehta wrote scathing unfounded bullsh*t articles about Marrone that seemed to turn him off from the prospect and scared Woody away. Then it came down to Bowles and Quinn and we couldn't talk to Quinn due to the SB run and Bowles was heading to Atlanta for his 2nd interview. We jumped ahead of the 2nd Atlanta interview like a day or 2 after signing Macc and got Bowles in for the 2nd interview where Macc met him. I think Woody had no choice but to go for Bowles over Quinn b/c when you really think about it. Was Quinn really ever going to come here when the options to weigh was 1. Go to NY where they have no QB, in a division with the Pats which makes it incredibly hard to win a division title and an aging presence on the roster. or. 2. Go to Atlanta where they have a franchise QB, a dome and an easier division to win. I think it was obvious that Bowles was the only choice at the time, we just didn't have anything to offer Quinn over Atlanta. I would be open to bringing Marrone in for HC honestly. I liked what he was doing in Buffalo before he opted out due to the ownership change, kind of like what happened with us and Belicheck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotcheryifyouCan Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 jacksonville interviewed coughlin fwiw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupz27 Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 6 hours ago, JETSfaninNE said: I was looking back at this recently and originally Woody wanted Doug Marrone but then Manish Mehta wrote scathing unfounded bullsh*t articles about Marrone that seemed to turn him off from the prospect and scared Woody away. Then it came down to Bowles and Quinn and we couldn't talk to Quinn due to the SB run and Bowles was heading to Atlanta for his 2nd interview. We jumped ahead of the 2nd Atlanta interview like a day or 2 after signing Macc and got Bowles in for the 2nd interview where Macc met him. I think Woody had no choice but to go for Bowles over Quinn b/c when you really think about it. Was Quinn really ever going to come here when the options to weigh was 1. Go to NY where they have no QB, in a division with the Pats which makes it incredibly hard to win a division title and an aging presence on the roster. or. 2. Go to Atlanta where they have a franchise QB, a dome and an easier division to win. I think it was obvious that Bowles was the only choice at the time, we just didn't have anything to offer Quinn over Atlanta. I would be open to bringing Marrone in for HC honestly. I liked what he was doing in Buffalo before he opted out due to the ownership change, kind of like what happened with us and Belicheck. I'd be surprised if Jacksonville doesn't try, and lock up Marrone if Coughlin doesn't work out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Mart Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 Chargers statement on firing of Mike McCoy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 So Denver, Jacksonville, Buffalo, San DIego open currently at the moment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionelRichie Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 Mike McCoy is a stud of an OC. Jets should sign him up ASAFP. what has anthony lynn done to be the "it" name in coaching candidates? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 4 minutes ago, UnitedWhofans said: So Denver, Jacksonville, Buffalo, San DIego open currently at the moment LA and likely San Fran also. 6 openings and likely more soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 Just now, CrazyCarl40 said: LA and likely San Fran also. 6 openings and likely more soon. Yeah forgot the Rams and Niners. Rumors are Texans maybe next although if they beat the Raiders, how can you fire him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 7 minutes ago, LionelRichie said: Mike McCoy is a stud of an OC. Jets should sign him up ASAFP. what has anthony lynn done to be the "it" name in coaching candidates? Odds are McCoy will be in high demand as an OC, if not a HC. Odds are also very good that Bowles and his entire CS will be booted next year. I'd go some where else if I was Mc Coy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W. Namath Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 10 minutes ago, LionelRichie said: Mike McCoy is a stud of an OC. Jets should sign him up ASAFP. what has anthony lynn done to be the "it" name in coaching candidates? Hed be an idiot to take the jets oc job. Career suicide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionelRichie Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 3 minutes ago, flgreen said: Odds are McCoy will be in high demand as an OC, if not a HC. Odds are also very good that Bowles and his entire CS will be booted next year. I'd go some where else if I was Mc Coy 2 things in the Jets favor: 1 - cash is king and there is no salary cap on coaching or assistant coach salaries 2 - if he can get Hackenburg onto the field and successful then he can write his ticket anywhere he wants as an NFL HC. he has to land somewhere, why not here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers9 Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 10 minutes ago, Joe W. Namath said: Hed be an idiot to take the jets oc job. Career suicide. You sure are a positive guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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