Charlie Brown Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 1 hour ago, Tinstar said: Maybe because he said he wasn't interested or because nobody asked him . Why do we have to know before we know ? I want answers!!! I'm an impatient fan and proud of it!!! In truth I am really fascinated by the choice since I didn't think Chan did a bad a job. Indeed the next OC will have real pressure on him, so I am interested in the pick! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYDreamer Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 Bill Musgrave could be Interesting Candidate for OC: Offensive Coordinator from the Raiders did not resign with them. http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/01/10/report-bill-musgrave-leaving-the-raiders/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRL Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 Why haven't we heard more coaching rumors? Because there is no one in the local NYC media that has any connection to the league. Therefore we won't hear anything on a regular basis. We heard about Clint Hurtt (OLB coach) from Alex Marvez. It's pathetic how these "beat reporters" can cover the team for years and break no credible news, everything is second or third hand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Mart Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 9 hours ago, Charlie Brown said: I want answers!!! I'm an impatient fan and proud of it!!! In truth I am really fascinated by the choice since I didn't think Chan did a bad a job. Indeed the next OC will have real pressure on him, so I am interested in the pick! JMO..The lack of use of a TE by Gailey played into his "retirement" and for all we know some other differences...Case in point see below. Here's a team that went to the playoffs and had "issues"... Perhaps Jets were one of the teams interested in Downing.. Despite their offensive success, Del Rio took a few opportunities to take some veiled shots at Musgrave’s offense. He openly questioned how running back Latavius Murray could’ve had just five carries in the Week 17 loss to the Broncos and also criticized the lack of “big boy ball” in a Dec. 8 loss at Kansas City. He acknowledged wanting to take a time out in that game to overrule a third-and-1 pass play call but wanted to preserve the opportunities to stop the clock late in that game. http://www.mercurynews.com/2017/01/10/raiders-reportedly-moving-on-from-bill-musgrave-keeping-ken-norton-jr/ Per Rapoport, Musgrave was at the end of a two-year contract and the Raiders are allowing it to expire. Quarterbacks coach Todd Downing, who came to Oakland in 2015 after stints with the Lions and Bills, is believed to be a potential successor in house, Rapoport added. Several teams with vacancies expressed interest in him for offensive coordinator, per Rapoport. http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000772568/article/raiders-oc-bill-musgrave-not-expected-to-return Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Mart Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 Vic CarucciVerified account @viccarucci 12 hours ago #Bills are zeroed in on Sean McDermott as their next HC. Could have something finalized in the next day or so. There could be some competition for Mike McCoy, as reports link the former Chargers coach to Buffalo coordinator job http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/01/11/report-sean-mcdermott-wants-to-bring-mike-mccoy-with-him-as-oc/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 How do the Jets get Sean Payton. What has to be done. How much money and control does he want. And that it's happening. until then I don't give a ****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 Ok I just saw Payton signed a 5 year extension. F everybody Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 Lets hire Rex as the OC! A Costanza like twist! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 15 minutes ago, HessStation said: Ok I just saw Payton signed a 5 year extension. F everybody Payton is starting to wander into the territory of a guy like Fisher became. 3 straight 7-9 seasons but as with a lot of other coaches, the thing that saves him? He has a franchise QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 1 hour ago, KRL said: Why haven't we heard more coaching rumors? Because there is no one in the local NYC media that has any connection to the league. Therefore we won't hear anything on a regular basis. We heard about Clint Hurtt (OLB coach) from Alex Marvez. It's pathetic how these "beat reporters" can cover the team for years and break no credible news, everything is second or third hand To be fair, it's probably like that in every market at this point. Schefter and Rapiport break 90% of the meaningful stuff while everyone else fights for the crumbs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 Once the HC jobs go, the dominoes will begin to fall into place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 Well the other side of waiting till head coaches are hired and perhaps the end of the season is that all of a sudden we are going to have several more teams looking for staff and will have more competition for an oc. In any case I'm not overly worried about the OC, we have no QB at all and he is going to get lambasted no matter what. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 Callahan had his play calling duties stripped in Dallas. Sure they put up some points, but that team is stacked and Linehan has been calling the plays. The running game has not seemed to suffer without him. Payton spends all day rolling. The Post would have pictures of him asleep on a toilet with a member of the Flight Crew by week 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 I think the Jets are in an interesting spot here with their OC search. Unlike an HC search, an existing assistant needs his team's permission to interview for a coordinator job. That being said, slavery has been outlawed, so I think team's tend to grant it for assistants who are getting real promotions if there is not opportunity for them on their current team. In DeFellipo's case, either the Eagles thought Reich could end up an HC, and thus wanted DeF ( I gave up) to interview for OC, or DeF did not want the Jets job (suspected, and possible). Thus, if they are waiting for other teams to finish their playoff runs, I don't know what they are really waiting for. Let's see how this goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brown Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 2 hours ago, C Mart said: JMO..The lack of use of a TE by Gailey played into his "retirement" and for all we know some other differences...Case in point see below. Here's a team that went to the playoffs and had "issues"... Perhaps Jets were one of the teams interested in Downing.. Despite their offensive success, Del Rio took a few opportunities to take some veiled shots at Musgrave’s offense. He openly questioned how running back Latavius Murray could’ve had just five carries in the Week 17 loss to the Broncos and also criticized the lack of “big boy ball” in a Dec. 8 loss at Kansas City. He acknowledged wanting to take a time out in that game to overrule a third-and-1 pass play call but wanted to preserve the opportunities to stop the clock late in that game. http://www.mercurynews.com/2017/01/10/raiders-reportedly-moving-on-from-bill-musgrave-keeping-ken-norton-jr/ Per Rapoport, Musgrave was at the end of a two-year contract and the Raiders are allowing it to expire. Quarterbacks coach Todd Downing, who came to Oakland in 2015 after stints with the Lions and Bills, is believed to be a potential successor in house, Rapoport added. Several teams with vacancies expressed interest in him for offensive coordinator, per Rapoport. http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000772568/article/raiders-oc-bill-musgrave-not-expected-to-return C Mart i understand the article and it is true that Gailey underutilized the TE but.....and this is a big but......which TE currently on the Jets staff was held back by Gailey? i would argue none. I think that our unskilled TEs forced Gailey to be creative and use Q in positions and downs that would have called for focus on a TE. It is as if the Jets are punishing Gailey for the weakness of the Jets personnel that he would routinely and skillfully work around. As numerous film break out showed out here, Gailey consistently was scheming folks open often for would be scores and Fitz just blew it. Indeed Fitz poor play which was according to many outside observers historically bad made teams sit on BM and Q and since Fitz would rarely look to his third option the Jets were cooked. Teams would then stack the box against a debilitated OL as the season wore on force the Jets to pass especially in the red zone. Does anyone honestly think that if say Gronk were on the Jets Gailey wouldn't target and use him? That is just silly talk. Do I think that Gailey was perfect? No I do not !! For one I think that Gailey failed to figure out a way to get Powell and Forte on the field at the same time. I think that he neeed to spread the defense out. But then again I am not in Jets practices and he may have tried that and it wouldn't work there so why unveil it in a game? So I don't know. Also as far as I am concerned Gailey was also to predictable in part on first and second downs but again that was a direct result as I stated above do in part to Fitz' play. And with the Jets i didn't understand how you could have young players in Hack and Petty and then now have to learn a new system when they are still developing. Stability inbthe learning process is critical. And didn't the Jets realize that Gailey didn't use the TE in his first season when the Jets were setting all kinds of Jets records? So I am very interested in who they bring in here. Is that person going to make our OL effective and our TEs catch passes ? Hmmmm we shall see Again I want to see who they are going to bring in, since they have IMO, despite Gailey's obvious flaws, let go of the best and most effective OC we have had in here in say twenty years!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinstar Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 48 minutes ago, varjet said: I think the Jets are in an interesting spot here with their OC search. Unlike an HC search, an existing assistant needs his team's permission to interview for a coordinator job. That being said, slavery has been outlawed, so I think team's tend to grant it for assistants who are getting real promotions if there is not opportunity for them on their current team. In DeFellipo's case, either the Eagles thought Reich could end up an HC, and thus wanted DeF ( I gave up) to interview for OC, or DeF did not want the Jets job (suspected, and possible). Thus, if they are waiting for other teams to finish their playoff runs, I don't know what they are really waiting for. Let's see how this goes. I thought this was interesting, so I went looking for QB coaches on playoff teams with tenure and I came across an interesting name . Pittsburg Steelers QBs coach Randy Fichtner ; The guy has an interesting bio, is from Cleveland which is where a certain QB prospect in this draft is from and has ties to Bruce Arians . http://www.steelers.com/team/coaches/randy-fichtner/c64ecfa5-8eb5-479f-b7d7-d0564ba28dec Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotcheryifyouCan Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 looks like mcdermott the dc from the panthers will be getting the bills hc position. reports say he is hoping to get mccoy to be his oc. hope thats not true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRL Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 Here's one and as usual it's from a national reporter: Jason La CanforaVerified account@JasonLaCanfora Jets getting a very good coach in Dennard Wilson. Former Rams assistant coach joining Todd Bowles staff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRL Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 Dennard Wilson resume: http://www.therams.com/team/coaches/dennard-wilson/8268ed04-35a9-467d-97e0-a21daea5b2fb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 What's interesting about Wilson is that he and another coach were projected to join Gregg Williams in Cleveland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sourceworx Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 34 minutes ago, KRL said: Here's one and as usual it's from a national reporter: Jason La CanforaVerified account@JasonLaCanfora Jets getting a very good coach in Dennard Wilson. Former Rams assistant coach joining Todd Bowles staff What exactly makes him "a very good coach?" Not asking that to be a jerk. I just never heard of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 Just now, sourceworx said: What exactly makes him "a very good coach?" Not asking that to be a jerk. I just never heard of him. Well with the Rams from 2011-2015, he helped develop Janoris Jenkins and Trumaine Johnson at CB. That seems to be a common thread between Hurtt and Wilson. Ability to help develop young players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 2 hours ago, #27TheDominator said: Callahan had his play calling duties stripped in Dallas. Sure they put up some points, but that team is stacked and Linehan has been calling the plays. The running game has not seemed to suffer without him. Payton spends all day rolling. The Post would have pictures of him asleep on a toilet with a member of the Flight Crew by week 3. If you recall Sean Payton also had his play calling duties stripped by Parcells at one time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Mart Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 Jason La Canfora @JasonLaCanfora 6 minutes ago Could be a big day in the coaching world today - Rams honing in on Sean McVay, Broncos on Vance Joseph, Bills on Sean McDermott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 1 minute ago, C Mart said: Jason La Canfora @JasonLaCanfora 6 minutes ago Could be a big day in the coaching world today - Rams honing in on Sean McVay, Broncos on Vance Joseph, Bills on Sean McDermott McVay is the OC of the Redskins and if hired would be the youngest HC in NFL history, beating Lane Kiffin. Joseph is the DC of the Dolphins. McDermott is the DC of the Panthers. He looks like a lock to go to Buffalo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 4 minutes ago, UnitedWhofans said: Well with the Rams from 2011-2015, he helped develop Janoris Jenkins and Trumaine Johnson at CB. That seems to be a common thread between Hurtt and Wilson. Ability to help develop young players Basically, the first job requirement for all position coaches, and something we have been sorely missing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 4 minutes ago, Beerfish said: If you recall Sean Payton also had his play calling duties stripped by Parcells at one time. If you read my post, I not too fond of the idea of Payton either. What that fat underbellied **** did is of little concern to me, but it certainly is not a positive on the guys resume. Callahan has coached some stacked teams. He has not spent a ton of time calling plays. He is an offensive line coach. There is no shame in that, but I am not looking to give him playcalling duties with the Jets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Mart Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter If Sean McVay lands the Rams' HC job, his top option for DC would be Broncos DC Wade Phillips, per league sources. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Mart Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 Ian Rapoport @RapSheet If #Bills hire of Sean McDermott is done by today, as it should be, expect his biggest target for OC to be former #Chargers coach Mike McCoy Charley Casserly @CharleyCasserly @RapSheet Mike McCoy will have to start making some decisions now that Head Coaches will start getting hired Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 2 minutes ago, #27TheDominator said: If you read my post, I not too fond of the idea of Payton either. What that fat underbellied **** did is of little concern to me, but it certainly is not a positive on the guys resume. Callahan has coached some stacked teams. He has not spent a ton of time calling plays. He is an offensive line coach. There is no shame in that, but I am not looking to give him playcalling duties with the Jets. He was the oc for the Raiders whom had a lot of success under him. We can do worse, in any case I doubt very much if he will be the guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 Just now, C Mart said: Ian Rapoport @RapSheet 3h3 hours ago If #Bills hire of Sean McDermott is done by today, as it should be, expect his biggest target for OC to be former #Chargers coach Mike McCoy Charley Casserly @CharleyCasserly 2m2 minutes ago @RapSheet Mike McCoy will have to start making some decisions now that Head Coaches will start getting hired If I were McCoy, I would go to Denver. Jets don't have a QB right now and the Bills may lose their QB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinstar Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 3 minutes ago, #27TheDominator said: If you read my post, I not too fond of the idea of Payton either. What that fat underbellied **** did is of little concern to me, but it certainly is not a positive on the guys resume. Callahan has coached some stacked teams. He has not spent a ton of time calling plays. He is an offensive line coach. There is no shame in that, but I am not looking to give him playcalling duties with the Jets. All I want to know about Callahan as an offensive play caller is this . When Jon Gruden took over as the HC of Tampa and played the Raiders in the SB, that joker didn't even bother to change the plays Gruden used as the Raiders HC and got blown out in the SB . The Bucs acted like they knew exactly what the Raiders were going to run and ran the routes for the receivers . No thanks . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinstar Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 4 minutes ago, C Mart said: Ian Rapoport @RapSheet If #Bills hire of Sean McDermott is done by today, as it should be, expect his biggest target for OC to be former #Chargers coach Mike McCoy Charley Casserly @CharleyCasserly @RapSheet Mike McCoy will have to start making some decisions now that Head Coaches will start getting hired Keep it coming guys, you're doing an awesome job . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 Albert BreerVerified account@AlbertBreer Ex-Charger coach Mike McCoy will have options. If Joseph, McDermott, McVay land jobs, he'll be an OC target for Bills, Broncos, Skins, Jets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinstar Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 21 minutes ago, sourceworx said: What exactly makes him "a very good coach?" Not asking that to be a jerk. I just never heard of him. One's reputation within league circles allows those with contacts to make claims like this . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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