rangerous Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 9 hours ago, SayNoToDMC said: Good luck, we might be able to get Joani. I think we've had the lowest paid head coach in the league every year since Woody bought the team. bowles is being paid 4m per year for 4 seasons. since coaching slary comes out of the owner's pocket i can see why woody wouldn't necessarily want to back up the truck for anyone. and growing a teams revenue is difficult. imo there's not much difference between how much a successful jets team would put in his pocket as opposed to a mediocre one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kennyo7 Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 10 hours ago, Hael said: Baalke is a good GM, he's managed to recruit a ton of talent to the 49ers over the years but the organization has been killed by Harbaugh's departure, injuries, random retirements and a coaching carousel created by their stupid owner. Firing coaches after 1 year is not a good way to run an organization, and neither is firing one of the best coaches in the league. This. Despite the last two years Baalke oversaw the rebuilding of the Niners from a doormat to Super Bowl contender. While Harbaugh gets much of the credit(deservedly so) , Baalke assembled the talent. If he doesnt get a GM job, Woody should seriously consider bringing Baalke in as a VPnto oversee football operations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mecca Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 Baalke also has a huge ego and was the reason Harbaugh left. Baalke thought he was smarter than he was and his recent draft history shows he's quite mediocre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScarletKnight89 Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 13 hours ago, UnitedWhofans said: Firing a coach after 1 bad season is not a good idea. It makes your job unattractive. Same will happen here if Woody does fire Bowles, which is why he probably won't. Absolutely agree. Baalke had been there for a while. The owner probably should have pulled the plug on him last year when they fired the last coach and just sent him packing then giving him 1 more season with a new coach made little sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joenamathwouldn'tcry Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 For those of you who are in the "you don't fire a coach after one bad year" club, remember this. Chip Kelly totally destroyed the Eagles in "only" one year, then was handed the keys to the 49ers and promptly drove them even further into the ditch, with little hope of improvement. Now for Mr. Bowles. This is not the case of one bad year. This is a debacle for the ages, haven't people been watching? We were not good last year, the record was a mirage. The team was poorly coached last year, this year and will continue to be for as long as this coaching staff, and majority of gutless, underachieving "professionals are allowed to remain in green. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASH1962 Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 12 hours ago, August said: A few years ago the 9ers were a rock solid organization. Now they're the biggest joke in the league. Um, second biggest joke in the league thank you very much. Again, they had no talent but they put forth an effort and tried. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASH1962 Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 Just now, joenamathwouldn'tcry said: For those of you who are in the "you don't fire a coach after one bad year" club, remember this. Chip Kelly totally destroyed the Eagles in "only" one year, then was handed the keys to the 49ers and promptly drove them even further into the ditch, with little hope of improvement. Now for Mr. Bowles. This is not the case of one bad year. This is a debacle for the ages, haven't people been watching? We were not good last year, the record was a mirage. The team was poorly coached last year, this year and will continue to be for as long as this coaching staff, and majority of gutless, underachieving "professionals are allowed to remain in green. My thoughts exactly when I heard the news last night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 47 minutes ago, joenamathwouldn'tcry said: For those of you who are in the "you don't fire a coach after one bad year" club, remember this. Chip Kelly totally destroyed the Eagles in "only" one year, then was handed the keys to the 49ers and promptly drove them even further into the ditch, with little hope of improvement. Now for Mr. Bowles. This is not the case of one bad year. This is a debacle for the ages, haven't people been watching? We were not good last year, the record was a mirage. The team was poorly coached last year, this year and will continue to be for as long as this coaching staff, and majority of gutless, underachieving "professionals are allowed to remain in green. It was partly a mirage. The object of a coach is to win games. They won 10 games. I don't care how it was done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 50 minutes ago, ASH1962 said: Um, second biggest joke in the league thank you very much. Again, they had no talent but they put forth an effort and tried. So did we. You have to separate lack of effort and lack of talent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munchmemory Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 50 minutes ago, joenamathwouldn'tcry said: For those of you who are in the "you don't fire a coach after one bad year" club, remember this. Chip Kelly totally destroyed the Eagles in "only" one year, then was handed the keys to the 49ers and promptly drove them even further into the ditch, with little hope of improvement. Now for Mr. Bowles. This is not the case of one bad year. This is a debacle for the ages, haven't people been watching? We were not good last year, the record was a mirage. The team was poorly coached last year, this year and will continue to be for as long as this coaching staff, and majority of gutless, underachieving "professionals are allowed to remain in green. Yes. Ja. Oui. Bien sur. Si. Da. Sim. Ken. Sea. Jes. Hai. And finally, fukkin' A! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRONX DUDE Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 Who Cares? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinstar Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 1 hour ago, joenamathwouldn'tcry said: For those of you who are in the "you don't fire a coach after one bad year" club, remember this. Chip Kelly totally destroyed the Eagles in "only" one year, then was handed the keys to the 49ers and promptly drove them even further into the ditch, with little hope of improvement. Now for Mr. Bowles. This is not the case of one bad year. This is a debacle for the ages, haven't people been watching? We were not good last year, the record was a mirage. The team was poorly coached last year, this year and will continue to be for as long as this coaching staff, and majority of gutless, underachieving "professionals are allowed to remain in green. Are you quite sure it was Chip Kelly the HC who destroyed the Eagles or Chip Kelly the GM . Absolute power corrupts absolutely . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 14 hours ago, UnitedWhofans said: Getting roasted by the media and fans. I think now they might be the worst organization in the NFL Firing a coach after 1 year is a no-no Exactly how can they just bolt past us in such short a time ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetster Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 13 hours ago, SAR I said: Agreed. It fits the profile. Ugly. White. Thought he was better than everyone else. Failed elsewhere. He's perfect. SAR I Chip kelly gets more out of QBs than the Jets have gotten from a QB since Parcells resurrected Vinnys career. Fitz was throwing to a game Marshall & Decker with Chris Ivory blasting people. Kelly got just as much from Nick Foles & a bunch of nobodys. Eagles started hot with Peterson & fizzled right out. Kelly gets way to much criticism. He took his Eagles into Gillette & gave them an azz whooping that hasn't happened since the Ravens kicked their azz in the playoffs that one year. A Bowles team might someday kick the Pats azz in Gillette.....bah, ha, ha, ha! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbone Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 Bad hire from the get go. Nothing he did in Philadelphia warranted Chip getting another shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetster Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 1 hour ago, jbone said: Bad hire from the get go. Nothing he did in Philadelphia warranted Chip getting another shot. That's a ridiculous statement. Kelly didn't want players that won't buy in & made some bold moves. The problem with that is it pisses off the team & that's why you have to have a GM to take the heat on personel moves, not the coach. Only one coach in the NFL gets away with it & that's Belichick because he has the pelts on the wall & Tom Brady to make up for any mistakes in judgement regarding players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbone Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 3 minutes ago, Jetster said: That's a ridiculous statement. Kelly didn't want players that won't buy in & made some bold moves. The problem with that is it pisses off the team & that's why you have to have a GM to take the heat on personel moves, not the coach. Only one coach in the NFL gets away with it & that's Belichick because he has the pelts on the wall & Tom Brady to make up for any mistakes in judgement regarding players. You're right. Chip is a great coach. It's just his greatness wasn't properly absorbed by two franchises. Obviously not his fault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetster Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 14 minutes ago, jbone said: You're right. Chip is a great coach. It's just his greatness wasn't properly absorbed by two franchises. Obviously not his fault. Lol. I'd love to see Bill Belichick coaching that 49er team as constituted this year. He'd be fired too I guess. Their best WR was a NY Jet castoff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 In what universe is Chip Kelly a good NFL coach? He has a gimmick college offense that worked his first year in NFL, NFL DCs caught out, he guts his team of offensive talent because he thinks his system is invincible,and has had horrible records since. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbone Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 1 minute ago, Jetster said: Lol. I'd love to see Bill Belichick coaching that 49er team as constituted this year. He'd be fired too I guess. Their best WR was a NY Jet castoff. He intentionally got rid of his best players while in Philly. His college schtick is just that......for college. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetster Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 2 minutes ago, jbone said: He intentionally got rid of his best players while in Philly. His college schtick is just that......for college. He got rid of players that didn't buy into his system. Last I looked the Eagles aren't in the playoffs again this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbone Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 1 minute ago, Jetster said: He got rid of players that didn't buy into his system. Last I looked the Eagles aren't in the playoffs again this year. Eagles still feeling the effects of Chip's genius. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 4 minutes ago, Jetster said: He got rid of players that didn't buy into his system. Last I looked the Eagles aren't in the playoffs again this year. And his system doesn't work in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetster Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 4 minutes ago, SMC said: And his system doesn't work in the NFL. I'm not arguing to bring in Chip Kelly, I'm just stating the obvious, Kelly can coach circles around our own Todd Bowles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 2 minutes ago, Jetster said: I'm not arguing to bring in Chip Kelly, I'm just stating the obvious, Kelly can coach circles around our own Todd Bowles. That was never my point and my discussion. My point is simply that Kelly is not a good NFL coach. BTW, Kelly has only 1 more winning season than Bowles in twice as many seasons and is 8-22 his last 2 seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbone Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 7 minutes ago, Jetster said: I'm not arguing to bring in Chip Kelly, I'm just stating the obvious, Kelly can coach circles around our own Todd Bowles. How is that obvious? They're 1-1 in head-to-head matchups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSteve Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 19 hours ago, Charlie Brown said: Chip did a poor job but what pray tell based upon the nonsense that went on there was he supposed to do????? He should never had been hired in the first place.....San Fran deserves the criticism on this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSteve Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 1 hour ago, Jetster said: I'm not arguing to bring in Chip Kelly, I'm just stating the obvious, Kelly can coach circles around our own Todd Bowles. Um....what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetster Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 4 minutes ago, CanadaSteve said: Um....what? You think Bowles is a better coach than Chip Kelly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 Just now, Jetster said: You think Bowles is a better coach than Chip Kelly? Kelly is Rex Ryan on offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbone Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 16 minutes ago, Jetster said: You think Bowles is a better coach than Chip Kelly? You're basically arguing with yourself as you're the only one who insists on comparing the two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetster Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 9 minutes ago, jbone said: You're basically arguing with yourself as you're the only one who insists on comparing the two. Who's comparing the 2? They are not comparable, Kelly is a better in game coach. We'll revisit after Bowles is fired at some point in the following 2 years. Bowles kicked a FG down 41-0 with 4 minutes left in the 4th quarter, more embarrassing moment than the buttfumble. The Buttfumble was a split moment in time at full speed action, the FG was a decision that was made from the sideline after having all the time in the world to decide what your going to do. Embarrassing! Even the announcers were shocked & said, "at least go down fighting". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 Just now, Jetster said: Who's comparing the 2? They are not comparable, Kelly is a better in game coach. We'll revisit after Bowles is fired at some point in the following 2 years. Bowles kicked a FG down 41-0 with 4 minutes left in the 4th quarter, more embarrassing moment than the buttfumble. The Buttfumble was a split moment in time at full speed action, the FG was a decision that was made from the sideline after having all the time in the world to decide what your going to do. Embarrassing! Even the announcers were shocked & said, "at least go down fighting". The fact that it doesn't even have a nickname basically disproves your point. Besides, people made too much of that I think. Would rather not get shutout against a divisional opponent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack48 Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 20 hours ago, UnitedWhofans said: Firing a coach after 1 bad season is not a good idea. It makes your job unattractive. Same will happen here if Woody does fire Bowles, which is why he probably won't. except Todd went from being "passable' to doing everything wrong and losing his team. lthat was a catastrophe. I don't care what players say. Most are morons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetFanWithNOPSL2017 Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 Why does every thread like one about the Niners have to be derailed by whining Jet hating SOJFS?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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