ScarletKnight89 Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 I think it was Glauber in Newsday who made a great point. When FA opens up this off season, the Jets are going to have money to spend. But they have to be going after guys who would be signing their second contracts like the Giants did with Janoris Jenkins and Damon Harrison. Not guys who would be signing their 4th or 5th NFL contracts like they did when Maac and Bowles first took over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Integrity28 Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 Bummer. The real issue is the players though. Talent and commitment issues are pervasive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 Mecca is correct. It;s based on SOS. However, the Rams are probably not drafting a QB again that high so I don't know what the value of moving up one pick would be,especially in this draft. The draft position is only hurt if the Rams win today and it would only be one spot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 Tell me how the Jets were hurt by draft position today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DetroitRed Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 I'm sitting here in shock. No joke. Who do you justify bringing Bowles back? Man, we never cease to find new ways of being a friggin' clown act. Great another year of no playoffs and we dump Bowles and Mcc after next season. Same idiocy we pulled with Rex. This franchise is now officially a quagmire filled with dog sh!t. Were you in favor of firing after last year?He was bad this year. He may be a bad coach. But there are good coaches who have had bad seasons. NOT comparing to anyone , but ask the Eagles how they feel about firing Reid after 4-12Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barkus Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 1 minute ago, Mecca said: This isn't true. It goes by strength of schedule. Jets would've moved up with any team in front of them losing as well as the Jets losing. How is this so hard to understand? Jax lost finish 3-13 even jets lost be 4-12 no good chicago lost finish 3-13 can't catch them IF la wins then finish 5-11 so if jets had lost would have moved up one spot. But if both jets and rams lost both teams finish 4-12 la picks ahead due to SOS. Understand? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 6 minutes ago, DetroitRed said: Glad we stayed in the same draft slot. Now management will look to free agency for a QB Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Why is this good news Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 8 minutes ago, Mecca said: This isn't true. It goes by strength of schedule. Jets would've moved up with any team in front of them losing as well as the Jets losing. How is this so hard to understand? It's true, as reported all week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 Woody Johnson doesn't like to fire people. May be they'll throw Chan Gailey a retirement party and give him some nice parting gifts. But this organization is so effed up a 5 win season doesn't cause major changes to take place. If the Steelers, Giants, Pats, Ravens et al had a season like this, heads would roll and ownership would demand serious changes. Here, happytalk nonsense all around, no biggie. This is failure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DetroitRed Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 Why is this good news Because I don't think much of the Qbs coming out. I don't want to be in a position to take oneSent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 Hey good news the administration that just burned a two and a four on quarterbacks that they deemed inviable and $12 million dollars on Ryan Fitzpatrick is going to go pick up another free agent quarterback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 Just now, T0mShane said: Hey good news the administration that just burned a two and a four and $12 million dollars on Ryan Fitzpatrick is going to go pick up another free agent quarterback. What are you talking about? A two and a 4? If you want to argue something, all the Jets wasted was time. And time is eternal, at least in a existential sense. There will always be another season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 1 minute ago, UnitedWhofans said: What are you talking about? A two and a 4? Hack in 2016, and Petty in 2015. Sorry facts are difficult for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 Just now, Bugg said: Hack in 2016, and Petty in 2015. Sorry facts are difficult for you. No it was the wording. I thought you meant they wasted the draft picks on Fitzpatrick. My bad. And I wouldn't call it a waste yet, at least with Hackenberg. Let's see next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munchmemory Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 2 minutes ago, DetroitRed said: Were you in favor of firing after last year? He was bad this year. He may be a bad coach. But there are good coaches who have had bad seasons. NOT comparing to anyone , but ask the Eagles how they feel about firing Reid after 4-12 Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app That's just it; I don't think Bowles is a good HC. He's made a bunch of boneheaded decisions. Plus, no matter how anyone tries to downplay it, this team looked unprepared multiple games. Guy might be a good DC. But as a HC? He's a disaster. Our record shows it as does how the team went missing for weeks at a time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 4 minutes ago, Bugg said: Woody Johnson doesn't like to fire people. May be they'll throw Chan Gailey a retirement party and give him some nice parting gifts. But this organization is so effed up a 5 win season doesn't cause major changes to take place. If the Steelers, Giants, Pats, Ravens et al had a season like this, heads would roll and ownership would demand serious changes. Here, happytalk nonsense all around, no biggie. This is failure. The Giants had 2 seasons like this in a row before they fired Coughlin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DetroitRed Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 Hey good news the administration that just burned a two and a four on quarterbacks that they deemed inviable and $12 million dollars on Ryan Fitzpatrick is going to go pick up another free agent quarterback. Two terrible picks. $12 million means almost nothing. Staring Qbs are going to cost some money . So they lost a few million. Now bring in Glennon , who has done well on bad teams, and no bad history like FitzSent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 1 minute ago, munchmemory said: That's just it; I don't think Bowles is a good HC. He's made a bunch of boneheaded decisions. Plus, no matter how anyone tries to downplay it, this team looked unprepared multiple games. Guy might be a good DC. But as a HC? He's a disaster. Our record shows it as does how the team went missing for weeks at a time. Honest question. Do you think the worst head coach ever wins 10 games last year? I mean soft schedules only go so far Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DetroitRed Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 That's just it; I don't think Bowles is a good HC. He's made a bunch of boneheaded decisions. Plus, no matter how anyone tries to downplay it, this team looked unprepared multiple games. Guy might be a good DC. But as a HC? He's a disaster. Our record shows it as does how the team went missing for weeks at a time. You could be correct, but did you want him gone last year?Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Mart Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 26 minutes ago, UnitedWhofans said: Reports suggest differently. He's not going to say anything on a post game presser. Like he said he learned after last season when he said Fitz would be the starter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fusionCA Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 Just now, UnitedWhofans said: Honest question. Do you think the worst head coach ever wins 10 games last year? yes. Bowels is the worst coach ever and he won 10 games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southtown24th Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 2 minutes ago, UnitedWhofans said: The Giants had 2 seasons like this in a row before they fired Coughlin. I was going to say... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 Just now, fusionCA said: yes. Bowels is the worst coach ever and he won 10 games Then you have an agenda. Because how can you say he is better than Holtz and Kotite? Realistically Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 31 minutes ago, Saul Goodman said: I'm good with this. Get rid of the cancerous players, nail the draft, and move on to 2017. Cause they proved they can do this?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 8 minutes ago, UnitedWhofans said: What are you talking about? A two and a 4? If you want to argue something, all the Jets wasted was time. And time is eternal, at least in a existential sense. There will always be another season All things wither and perish, passing from this vale of tears into the infinite, so actually Hackenberg was a good pick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munchmemory Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 2 minutes ago, DetroitRed said: You could be correct, but did you want him gone last year? Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Can't recall. But probably not, as it was his first year. After two years, and the team looking much worse, I don't believe in Bowles or his ability to lead us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 Firing a coach after one bad year is not fair and not how quality organizations run their teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munchmemory Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 5 minutes ago, UnitedWhofans said: Honest question. Do you think the worst head coach ever wins 10 games last year? I mean soft schedules only go so far Never said he was the "worst ever". I will say that he is one of many awful HCs the Jets have hired over the decades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fusionCA Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 1 minute ago, UnitedWhofans said: Then you have an agenda. Because how can you say he is better than Holtz and Kotite? Realistically how can you say Holtz was worse? were you even alive back then? Kotite teams had no talent and bad coaching but always play hard , players never quit like they did for Bowles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freemanm Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 26 minutes ago, sourceworx said: The question now is which assistants will be fired, and who will replace them? Bring back Rex to coach the defense! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 excuse me I just threw up in my mouth for the 17th time this season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadFan Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 This team doesn't know WTF they're doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Mart Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 Just now, Freemanm said: Bring back Rex to coach the defense! I'm sure you are kidding. You have to be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 1 minute ago, fusionCA said: how can you say Holtz was worse? were you even alive back then? Kotite teams had no talent and bad coaching but always play hard , players never quit like they did for Bowles First hand accounts. Buttle calling it the Lou Holtz "error" seems to be a pretty good indicator. The fact that he quit before the season ended is not good either. As for Kotite, how can you tell if they played hard? Winning 1 game in 16 doesn't really suggest it. And at the end of the day, coaches are not judged by effort, they are judged by results and record. And Bowles has a WAY better record than Kotite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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