#27TheDominator Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Mauldin is not a stud. He was a third rounder and played like a third rounder. He doesn't have 8.5 sacks. He has 6.5 sacks in 2 years, one of which he was the presumptive starter. He has very few tackles, but I think they played him move in coverage earlier this year. People counting on these guys is where I think the problem lies. He is a nice maybe piece, but you need a floor in case he doesn't pan out. He is not going to set the edge like Pace did and while they dropped him some this year, I wouldn't say it was much of a success. It will be interesting what he does next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 19 hours ago, jetsrule128 said: With all the losing I got bored of this place. Hope to be back next season Wow that hurts. Losing means more bottom of the roster guys get to play. That sounds like your Heaven. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetPotato Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 How much cap relief does this provide? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 16 hours ago, UnitedWhofans said: I just have a question, and I am not insulting you. If you have no faith in the regime, then why are you here? Seriously, why are you still a fan? There is a reason the Chicago Cubs had fans for 108 years and that was faith, I hope. Again, I'm not saying your concerns are without merit, But it just seems weird You know the only thing worse than a doomsayer, naysayer fan? The happy happy joy joy fan. The one that never sees a problem, always thinks the team is doing the right thing and claps like a trained seal. The doomsayer bad attitude fans? They have proven to be right in almost everything they have put their name to with this team over the last 10 years. The happy happy joy luck club has been wrong on just about every thing. The fact that the doomsayer fans are still around after years of incompetence, horrible moves and bad luck means they are great fans not bad fans. I've been though this act with both the Jets and my hometown hockey team the Edmonton Oilers, the worst run pro franchise in all of sports the last 15 years. There was even more happy happy joy joy fans on that site and they too were wrong about just everything they judged. To get better you have to acknowledge weak areas, to ignore weak areas you are doomed for years and the happy happy club you are president of are perfectly happy for the Jets to be sheer and utter losers year after year and never win another super bowl. It's all good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 1 hour ago, #27TheDominator said: Mauldin is not a stud. He was a third rounder and played like a third rounder. He doesn't have 8.5 sacks. He has 6.5 sacks in 2 years, one of which he was the presumptive starter. He has very few tackles, but I think they played him move in coverage earlier this year. People counting on these guys is where I think the problem lies. He is a nice maybe piece, but you need a floor in case he doesn't pan out. He is not going to set the edge like Pace did and while they dropped him some this year, I wouldn't say it was much of a success. It will be interesting what he does next year. Mauldin doesn't get snaps, that is an issue 354 this year and 253 last year, I agree he is not a stud but his sack totals form 2015 for his number of D snaps was one of the better stats in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Life Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Who ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 1 hour ago, #27TheDominator said: Mauldin is not a stud. He was a third rounder and played like a third rounder. He doesn't have 8.5 sacks. He has 6.5 sacks in 2 years, one of which he was the presumptive starter. He has very few tackles, but I think they played him move in coverage earlier this year. People counting on these guys is where I think the problem lies. He is a nice maybe piece, but you need a floor in case he doesn't pan out. He is not going to set the edge like Pace did and while they dropped him some this year, I wouldn't say it was much of a success. It will be interesting what he does next year. This is the exact point of my post, about how the coaches don't allow the players to do what they do best. Mauldin was drafted to rush the QB, not cover people. He has proven he can get pressure. He's not a stud, never said he was or will be, but he sure as hell can make more of an impact than what he's been allowed to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy Rasmussen Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 The Chiefs signed Josh Mauga from us s couple of years ago and he turned out to be a decent LB for them. He was out this year with a torn labrum but played wellenough in the past they signed him to a 3 year contract in 2016Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 25 minutes ago, section314 said: This is the exact point of my post, about how the coaches don't allow the players to do what they do best. Mauldin was drafted to rush the QB, not cover people. He has proven he can get pressure. He's not a stud, never said he was or will be, but he sure as hell can make more of an impact than what he's been allowed to do. Eh. Mauldin has never seemed to excel as a Maybin styled PRS. He is a good guy and hard worker and I think they hoped he could be an every down LB. I honestly think that Ochi would end up with as many sacks as Mauldin if they played the same number of snaps as dedicated pass rushers. I certainly don't see the coaches as holding him back. IMO he played plenty of snaps, he got a lot of run from the Ravens game on, but he had a fairly significant ankle injury that kept him inactive the last few games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 24 minutes ago, Randy Rasmussen said: The Chiefs signed Josh Mauga from us s couple of years ago and he turned out to be a decent LB for them. He was out this year with a torn labrum but played well enough in the past they signed him to a 3 year contract in 2016 Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Mauga was a great special teamer, but like the other guy from Reno, always hurt. Somebody mentioned Hyder, that guy is doing work for the Lions. I remember Rex and them raving about him in camp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 16 hours ago, FloridaJetsFan said: You didn't - it's just his undying quest to rant against Bowles every chance he gets, now THATS interesting to say the least! Wrong again,unfortunaltey all failure on this team points to same place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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UnitedWhofans Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 1 hour ago, Beerfish said: You know the only thing worse than a doomsayer, naysayer fan? The happy happy joy joy fan. The one that never sees a problem, always thinks the team is doing the right thing and claps like a trained seal. The doomsayer bad attitude fans? They have proven to be right in almost everything they have put their name to with this team over the last 10 years. The happy happy joy luck club has been wrong on just about every thing. The fact that the doomsayer fans are still around after years of incompetence, horrible moves and bad luck means they are great fans not bad fans. I've been though this act with both the Jets and my hometown hockey team the Edmonton Oilers, the worst run pro franchise in all of sports the last 15 years. There was even more happy happy joy joy fans on that site and they too were wrong about just everything they judged. To get better you have to acknowledge weak areas, to ignore weak areas you are doomed for years and the happy happy club you are president of are perfectly happy for the Jets to be sheer and utter losers year after year and never win another super bowl. It's all good. I am not a happy happy joy joy fan. This organization is flawed and the main problem is the owner and the atmosphere around the franchise. It is a franchise without a country, if you will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRy56 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Can't wait for our main man Ochi to ride the bench all the way to an AFC Championship game loss, amirite guys?.... #SameOldJets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinstar Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 1 hour ago, Beerfish said: You know the only thing worse than a doomsayer, naysayer fan? The happy happy joy joy fan. The one that never sees a problem, always thinks the team is doing the right thing and claps like a trained seal. The doomsayer bad attitude fans? They have proven to be right in almost everything they have put their name to with this team over the last 10 years. The happy happy joy luck club has been wrong on just about every thing. The fact that the doomsayer fans are still around after years of incompetence, horrible moves and bad luck means they are great fans not bad fans. I've been though this act with both the Jets and my hometown hockey team the Edmonton Oilers, the worst run pro franchise in all of sports the last 15 years. There was even more happy happy joy joy fans on that site and they too were wrong about just everything they judged. To get better you have to acknowledge weak areas, to ignore weak areas you are doomed for years and the happy happy club you are president of are perfectly happy for the Jets to be sheer and utter losers year after year and never win another super bowl. It's all good. This a big steaming pile of dinosaur poop . Neither the doomsday/ naysayer fans or the happy happy joy joy fans have any say in the decisions the team make . We are fans, and as such, we support our team regardless . The problem is too many fans want to be the GM and the HC and very few are even remotely qualified to do the Job . There's nothing wrong with critiquing the decisions people make, but when we start believing we could have and would have without the knowledge of the people who have way more information than we do, and whose livelihood is at stake base on those decisions, we are no longer fans . We become Judge, Jury and hangman . We've tried, found guilty and hung more coaches over the years without having any knowledge of why they did what they did than the law would allow . How Judges us, and worst, what do we have to lose . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinstar Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 10 minutes ago, UnitedWhofans said: I am not a happy happy joy joy fan. This organization is flawed and the main problem is the owner and the atmosphere around the franchise. It is a franchise without a country, if you will. There's nothing wrong with the owner of the Jets . The man wants to win , and does what he thinks he needs to in an effort to attain that goal . He's also a businessman, and has a right to think as a businessman .He's not a football man, so he hires football people to help him run his franchise . Name me the person that Woody Johnson has hired in an effort to attain a winner that hasn't had a history in football ? Not the business side of the team, but the football side. The man tries, and he put his money out there to prove it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 17 minutes ago, Tinstar said: There's nothing wrong with the owner of the Jets . The man wants to win , and does what he thinks he needs to in an effort to attain that goal . He's also a businessman, and has a right to think as a businessman .He's not a football man, so he hires football people to help him run his franchise . Name me the person that Woody Johnson has hired in an effort to attain a winner that hasn't had a history in football ? Not the business side of the team, but the football side. The man tries, and he put his money out there to prove it. Wow! You are so much smarter than this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinstar Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 5 minutes ago, section314 said: Wow! You are so much smarter than this. Thanks, I appreciate those kind words . Woody Johnson was handed a trillion dollar company, and during his time as CEO, he's managed to keep his company growing . You may not like how the man does business, but there's nothing wrong with the man. If he was as Inept as so many think he is, he would not be as successful as he is. So his football team isn't doing as well as the Fans would like. Maybe the reason for that is because he consistently does what he thinks is best for them instead of what's best for his team . Here's a question for you . Has it even crossed the minds of a single Jet fan that the reason Hackenberg may not have been exposed to the NFL is because the Jets knew Gailey was retiring and they worked on other things with him besides Gailey's play book ? When you run the scout team, you practice against the defensive looks of the up coming opponent . That helps you understand what a defense is trying to do to you . They told us they weren't going to mess with his footwork until after the season, so maybe that was because they were leaving it up to the new OC . Sometimes things aren't always what they seem . Unless you fire a coach, isn't his contract not over until the start of the new league year ? Is that when we will learn who the new OC is ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 1 minute ago, Tinstar said: Thanks, I appreciate those kind words . I honestly mean it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcass10 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 This isnt a crazy big deal, but I'm still a little pissed about it. Really wanted to see this guy succeed with the Jets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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