Augustiniak Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 2 minutes ago, Jack Straw said: He was sacked over 100 times in college. I'm not sure there's a QB in the nation who wouldn't have looked bad in that situation. Agreed. If Hackenberg is to be successful, it will be despite the Jets doing everything in their power to sabotage him. With the CBA, it's not like the Jets could work with him during the off-season anyway, so it's up to him to get a QB tutor in place and put in the required work to get his issues corrected. it's all on hack. he's got to figure it out himself. in the end, it's up to the player anyway. give brady credit, he always spent the offseason working on his footwork. always. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 2 minutes ago, 56mehl56 said: Yes much better roster allocation, to dress a guy who never played over not dressing a guy. We had 4 qbs taking roster spots all year, Bilal powel was out backup Qb on an occasion or two, the ny jets have leaders in poor roster management, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
56mehl56 Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 Just now, Beerfish said: We had 4 qbs taking roster spots all year, Bilal powel was out backup Qb on an occasion or two, the ny jets have leaders in poor roster management, But yet your lauding the fact that Cook dressed and sat on the bench all season for Oak. You can't have it both ways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetFanWithNOPSL2017 Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 hack sucks and so do the coaches for not allowing him to get in game experience in meaningless games he will never be ready folks deal with it-he will be less productive than browning nagle our gm set up this team with 4 qbs and each and every one of them sucks-we will now head into the third year of his regime and who will our qb be? I can even see them bringing fitz back -that is how bad our gm is The block party continues Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 7 minutes ago, 56mehl56 said: But yet your lauding the fact that Cook dressed and sat on the bench all season for Oak. You can't have it both ways. Apparently I can. I would rather the Jets dress a 3rd qb all year if they are going to carry 4 on the roster than not. Being dressed and part of the team is better than being in a hoody. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 15 minutes ago, kmnj said: the fact that he is not good enough to play in a meaningless game is reason to rip him-the coaches with nothing to play for did not want him to go out and get his confidence hurt-sounds like he not only sucks but is mentally soft too which does not surprise me considering he blamed all of his late college failures on everybody but himself The point still stands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
56mehl56 Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 3 minutes ago, Beerfish said: Apparently I can. I would rather the Jets dress a 3rd qb all year if they are going to carry 4 on the roster than not. Being dressed and part of the team is better than being in a hoody. Why , please explain . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j4jets Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 4 hours ago, 68JET11 said: OMG lol... she is one of my fav's of this generation. I think the movie she played in with ObiOne where they were clones of rich humans when they got sick to have extra body parts.... lmao... all I can say is WOW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 1 minute ago, 56mehl56 said: Why , please explain . #1 if you get a QB hurt then you don;t have to have a running back as a backup. #2 If you dress each game, go through all the pre game prep and get in on all the QB talk and experience actual game day it helps not just for the player but also for the team mates that see him as a viable part of the team instead of the jab who throws at practice. #3 The last spot on a game day roster for other positions often doesn't make a super impact on the game anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 41 minutes ago, shuler82 said: I like Hack. Same can't be said about post-Star Ledger Manish. I was also in my seats early for the last game of the year vs the Bills and saw Hack warm up. He was repeatedly missing WRs in simply timing drills. I hope beyond hope that Hack turns out to be the real deal, but I also don't rule out this report not being true just because it's another one of Manish's anonymous sources speaking out. I wonder which of his two most used 'anonymous' sources this came from. Was it his left ass cheek or his right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adoni Beast Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 Manish "reports" make me think of this: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
56mehl56 Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 4 minutes ago, Beerfish said: #1 if you get a QB hurt then you don;t have to have a running back as a backup. #2 If you dress each game, go through all the pre game prep and get in on all the QB talk and experience actual game day it helps not just for the player but also for the team mates that see him as a viable part of the team instead of the jab who throws at practice. #3 The last spot on a game day roster for other positions often doesn't make a super impact on the game anyway. Your way over thinking the role of a 3rd or 4th string QB. #2 is grasping at straws and #3 is flat out ludicrous. Your worrying about a 4th string QB having to play QB , but your not worried about having special team depth - which oh BTW is a unit that Jet fans killed all year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckkieB Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 There is really no reason for Hackenberg to have not seen any real game reps during a completely lost and miserable season. Even if his performance was putrid, it would have at least given the impression that the organization had SOME kind of confidence in him to succeed by putting him out there. By not playing him, it's almost as if the Jets were trying to "hide" him and their terrible mistake of drafting him. this is ALL on the GM and he needs to be taken to task for it. You cannot draft someone in the second round that literally has ZERO impact on the team. How Mac has gotten a free pass on this is beyond me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 Just now, 56mehl56 said: Your way over thinking the role of a 3rd or 4th string QB. #2 is grasping at straws and #3 is flat out ludicrous. Your worrying about a 4th string QB having to play QB , but your not worried about having special team depth - which oh BTW is a unit that Jet fans killed all year. Our bottom end oline, and such do not play specials. We will have to agree to disagree on this. I'll take Oaklands roster management over the jets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
56mehl56 Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 2 minutes ago, ChuckkieB said: There is really no reason for Hackenberg to have not seen any real game reps during a completely lost and miserable season. Even if his performance was putrid, it would have at least given the impression that the organization had SOME kind of confidence in him to succeed by putting him out there. By not playing him, it's almost as if the Jets were trying to "hide" him and their terrible mistake of drafting him. this is ALL on the GM and he needs to be taken to task for it. You cannot draft someone in the second round that literally has ZERO impact on the team. How Mac has gotten a free pass on this is beyond me. So if he played a few meaningless snaps in the Bills game or even started the Bills game - would the rhetoric about him have changed - absolutely not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munchmemory Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 3 hours ago, peebag said: I don't think the Raiders have a choice....Cook is last man standing. No I get it. Guess my point is that they are starting Cook instead of finding a veteran off the street. No doubt in my mind that if we were in the same boat, Bowles/Mcc would not have considered starting Hack. They would have signed a veteran QB to play the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetFanWithNOPSL2017 Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 So if he played a few meaningless snaps in the Bills game or even started the Bills game - would the rhetoric about him have changed - absolutely not. Absolutely The same armchair know it alls would be launching their same firebombs from the safety of their same couches Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glenn31 Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 49 minutes ago, 56mehl56 said: So if he played a few meaningless snaps in the Bills game or even started the Bills game - would the rhetoric about him have changed - absolutely not. If he had anything to offer he would have at least been given the opportunity to alter the rhetoric about him. It's not like we're only now seeing eyebrows being raised regarding his inability to get off the bench. It was being discussed as far back as the preseason. How can people continue to make excuses for this horrendous situation. A 2nd round QB pick sits behind 3 utter stiffs (and not 1 of them were drafted in a higher round than Hack) during a season that was deep-sixed by Halloween and the team has no intention on giving him at least a little look-see with live action? Even rookie year Chad got some playing time in a Sunday night blowout in Oakland in a year where 2 much more capable QBs (Vinny & Lucas) than what we have now were ahead of him on the depth chart. I'm sure Penny wasn't supposed to see the field at all in 2000 either, yet when the opportunity arose, he did. Simply put, this Hack situation is utter garbage because 1: the player is crap & 2: the idiot GM decided to use a 2 on a round 5-7 talent. NO ONE was picking Hack before then and even if they had, better them than us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet9 Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 Jets Organization: Hackenburg will redshirt in 2016 Jets Fans: OK Hack redshirts Jets Fans: Waaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhh!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetFanWithNOPSL2017 Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 If he had anything to offer he would have at least been given the opportunity to alter the rhetoric about him. It's not like we're only now seeing eyebrows being raised regarding his inability to get off the bench. It was being discussed as far back as the preseason. How can people continue to make excuses for this horrendous situation. A 2nd round QB pick sits behind 3 utter stiffs (and not 1 of them were drafted in a higher round than Hack) during a season that was deep-sixed by Halloween and the team has no intention on giving him at least a little look-see with live action? Even rookie year Chad got some playing time in a Sunday night blowout in Oakland in a year where 2 much more capable QBs (Vinny & Lucas) than what we have now were ahead of him on the depth chart. I'm sure Penny wasn't supposed to see the field at all in 2000 either, yet when the opportunity arose, he did. Simply put, this Hack situation is utter garbage because 1: the player is crap & 2: the idiot GM decided to use a 2 on a round 5-7 talent. NO ONE was picking Hack before then and even if they had, better them than us. #27Welcome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 3 minutes ago, Jet9 said: Jets Organization: Hackenburg will redshirt in 2016 Jets Fans: OK Hack redshirts Jets Fans: Waaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhh!!!!! No. Jets organization: We will not force him too early but will see how he does. Jets fans: Ok Jets organization: We are red shirting him to develop him. Jets fans: Ok Jets organization: We don't really have a plan for him as our oc told us he was packing it in after this year and we will spend all our time on our 3 other jag qbs. Jets Fans: Ok (starting to fidget) Jets Organizational leaks: This guy will NEVER make it , can't hit the ocean and was not worth a 2nd rounder Half of Jets Fans: Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!! Other half of jets fans: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet9 Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 2 minutes ago, Beerfish said: No. Jets organization: We will not force him too early but will see how he does. Jets fans: Ok Jets organization: We are red shirting him to develop him. Jets fans: Ok Jets organization: We don't really have a plan for him as our oc told us he was packing it in after this year and we will spend all our time on our 3 other jag qbs. Jets Fans: Ok (starting to fidget) Jets Organizational leaks: This guy will NEVER make it , can't hit the ocean and was not worth a 2nd rounder Half of Jets Fans: Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!! Other half of jets fans: Stop. You knew, or should have known, he was redshirting the whole year. I did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snell41 Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 Smokin' China --> Rider. Enjoy. Just before the heroin really did some damage to Jerry. While I prefer overall early 70s Dead best, as a guitarist in a Dead tribute band I find the 78-81 Jerry on guitar to be his finest playing. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
56mehl56 Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 1 hour ago, glenn31 said: If he had anything to offer he would have at least been given the opportunity to alter the rhetoric about him. It's not like we're only now seeing eyebrows being raised regarding his inability to get off the bench. It was being discussed as far back as the preseason. How can people continue to make excuses for this horrendous situation. A 2nd round QB pick sits behind 3 utter stiffs (and not 1 of them were drafted in a higher round than Hack) during a season that was deep-sixed by Halloween and the team has no intention on giving him at least a little look-see with live action? Even rookie year Chad got some playing time in a Sunday night blowout in Oakland in a year where 2 much more capable QBs (Vinny & Lucas) than what we have now were ahead of him on the depth chart. I'm sure Penny wasn't supposed to see the field at all in 2000 either, yet when the opportunity arose, he did. Simply put, this Hack situation is utter garbage because 1: the player is crap & 2: the idiot GM decided to use a 2 on a round 5-7 talent. NO ONE was picking Hack before then and even if they had, better them than us. In reality what does it matter where he was drafted. The plan from the outset was to "redshirt" Hack - so why all the panic now. If he never pans out - so what ,NFL history is littered with 2nd round picks that never make it. Let's step off the ledge , see how this all plays out and then react. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thadude Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 Hack is a lost cause guys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thadude Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 5 minutes ago, 56mehl56 said: In reality what does it matter where he was drafted. The plan from the outset was to "redshirt" Hack - so why all the panic now. If he never pans out - so what ,NFL history is littered with 2nd round picks that never make it. Let's step off the ledge , see how this all plays out and then react. Because Hack would be the 35th 2nd round pick in a row that was a total bust Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy2020 Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 2 hours ago, Beerfish said: #1 if you get a QB hurt then you don;t have to have a running back as a backup. #2 If you dress each game, go through all the pre game prep and get in on all the QB talk and experience actual game day it helps not just for the player but also for the team mates that see him as a viable part of the team instead of the jab who throws at practice. #3 The last spot on a game day roster for other positions often doesn't make a super impact on the game anyway. to be fair, I'd rather have Powell at QB than Hackenberg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
56mehl56 Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 26 minutes ago, thadude said: Because Hack would be the 35th 2nd round pick in a row that was a total bust David Harris, Gastineau, Wesley Walker but I get the point. But I'll let you in on a little secret , every NFL team misses on draft picks , the notion that this only applies to the Jets is so SOJF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 1 hour ago, Jet9 said: Stop. You knew, or should have known, he was redshirting the whole year. I did. I've never heard once in all my years of a football fan of a the term red shirting been used in the NFL. What makes it okay to 'red shirt' if there is not plan whatsoever to develop the guy the year he sits out? No one has answerd that for me yet. All I have heard is 'every one knows he was red shirting this year' which means zero. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 4 minutes ago, 56mehl56 said: David Harris, Gastineau, Wesley Walker but I get the point. But I'll let you in on a little secret , every NFL team misses on draft picks , the notion that this only applies to the Jets is so SOJF. There is 'missing on picks' and then there is reaching badly for flawed prospects that you have fallen in love with. One is the odds of the game the other is bad gming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
56mehl56 Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 1 minute ago, Beerfish said: There is 'missing on picks' and then there is reaching badly for flawed prospects that you have fallen in love with. One is the odds of the game the other is bad gming. Give me a call from the war room this May , we can consult on who the Jets should pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetFanWithNOPSL2017 Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 Hack is a lost cause guys #34 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetFanWithNOPSL2017 Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 Because Hack would be the 35th 2nd round pick in a row that was a total bust #34 Correction...just recounted..38Welcome to the block Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 4 minutes ago, 56mehl56 said: Give me a call from the war room this May , we can consult on who the Jets should pick. I'll be happy to do so, Neither Darron Lee or Hackenburg would be on this team this year if I was gming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
56mehl56 Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 Just now, Beerfish said: I'll be happy to do so, Neither Darron Lee or Hackenburg would be on this team this year if I was gming. So 2017 Jets on the clock at #6 - who you taking ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.