YouPlay2Win Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 look at the history of 1st round rbs in past 7-10 years . littered with busts/injured rbs. It's just not a smart pick. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 In the NFL today, if you take a RB in the top 10 or 15 picks he has to be Adrian Peterson. Otherwise just hold off. Ideally at # 6 you would take another position because good backs are easier to find. But if you have someone that is going to be special at 6, you have to do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mecca Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 David Johnson - 3rd Round Shady - 2nd Round Lev Bell - 2nd Round Ajayi - 4th Round Blount - Undrafted Rawls - Undrafted I can play this game all day. You see the trend? RB is a luxury position. We need premier position upgrades right now. EDGE/CB1/LT/QB/etc.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 4 minutes ago, 56mehl56 said: Yes hysterical - Maybe come back in month or so when you you read Mel Kiper's draft board to tell me who we should really draft. I haven't expressed who I think the Jets should draft yet because not everyone has declared and there have been no combines or all star games or workouts. RBs are a dime a dozen position. Not worth the investment unless you're a stacked team. This team is devoid of talent at the money positions and that needs to be addressed. Not a running back. Please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
56mehl56 Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 4 minutes ago, CrazyCarl40 said: I haven't expressed who I think the Jets should draft yet because not everyone has declared and there have been no combines or all star games or workouts. RBs are a dime a dozen position. Not worth the investment unless you're a stacked team. This team is devoid of talent at the money positions and that needs to be addressed. Not a running back. Please. So you'll wait until you hear who the talking heads say we should go with .Cmon man go out on a limb - your quick to tell other people they're wrong so show us how smart you are with your pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
56mehl56 Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 10 minutes ago, Mecca said: David Johnson - 3rd Round Shady - 2nd Round Lev Bell - 2nd Round Ajayi - 4th Round Blount - Undrafted Rawls - Undrafted I can play this game all day. You see the trend? RB is a luxury position. We need premier position upgrades right now. EDGE/CB1/LT/QB/etc.. But is there anyone form those positions that are worth drafting at 6 . Tabor , Peppers , Trubisky ?? . The real studs at 6 are the Rb's (Fournete/Cook) and Jamal Adams if he drops to 6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 3 minutes ago, 56mehl56 said: So you'll wait until you hear who the talking heads say we should go with .Cmon man go out on a limb - your quick to tell other people they're wrong so show us how smart you are with your pick. I never told anyone their pick was wrong. I'm just saying generally drafting a running back in the top end doesn't pay off. You can get one in the later rounds and still get an impact player. I'll tell you who I think the Jets will pick when they're on the clock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
56mehl56 Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 13 minutes ago, YouPlay2Win said: look at the history of 1st round rbs in past 7-10 years . littered with busts/injured rbs. It's just not a smart pick. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk You can do the same with any other position . When your drafting in the top 10 of the draft your looking for a game changer regardless of what position they play at. The top 2 Rb's in this draft fit that equation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mecca Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 10 minutes ago, 56mehl56 said: But is there anyone form those positions that are worth drafting at 6 . Tabor , Peppers , Trubisky ?? . The real studs at 6 are the Rb's (Fournete/Cook) and Jamal Adams if he drops to 6. Malik Hooker is more of a need than Adams and will most likely be available at 6. Hooker is an Earl Thomas / Clinton-Dix clone and my #1 target right now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupz27 Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 Who is there at 6 all depends on if the QB's jump to 1, 2 like last year (or 2, 3). Ideally a franchise LT, or stud edge rusher will be available, but if not, and you can't trade back you gotta take the guy with the highest upside with the chance to be a game wrecker regardless of the position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantasy Island Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 Fournette would be a wonderful addition, therefore we will not draft him. Some cb from the big 10 I predict. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
56mehl56 Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 2 minutes ago, Lupz27 said: Who is there at 6 all depends on if the QB's jump to 1, 2 like last year (or 2, 3). Ideally a franchise LT, or stud edge rusher will be available, but if not, and you can't trade back you gotta take the guy with the highest upside with the chance to be a game wrecker regardless of the position. I don't see any QB going top 10. The two stud edge rushers will be gone and there's really no dominant LT . The value picks at 6 seem to be RB or S. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thadude Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 2 minutes ago, Lupz27 said: Ideally a franchise LT, or stud edge rusher will be available, Like this guy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupz27 Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 Just now, thadude said: Like this guy? Jury is still out on him just being a situational pass rusher, I'm not using the 6th pick on a guy who can't do anything, but speed rush. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
56mehl56 Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 38 minutes ago, YouPlay2Win said: look at the history of 1st round rbs in past 7-10 years . littered with busts/injured rbs. It's just not a smart pick. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Look at the History at the Qb busts in rd1 it still wouldn't prevent you from taking one . Fournette is the RB equivalent to Andrew Luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
long suffering jets fan Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 3 hours ago, Tinstar said: He's not as good as people think he is. Buyer beware . I looked at some of Fournette's highlight films and I saw very little evidence of him breaking tackles. Unlike the Cook and Saquon Barkley highlights I looked at. I would expect a highly rated RB to be able to break tackles, not just run through massive holes created by blockers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thadude Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 1 minute ago, Lupz27 said: Jury is still out on him just being a situational pass rusher, Sorry, Williams is actually a very underrated run defender. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King P Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 1 hour ago, thadude said: Like this guy? More like this guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j4jets Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 Trade down a little, pickup a 2nd day pick, then draft three BAP from the OL in the first two days. OL needs time to adjust and we'll be able to get the first overall pick in the process next year. God knows Bowles isn't getting any better. Then draft your QB and RB next year when you solidify your OL. How is this so hard to understand? Avoid the temptation. Fournette will be garbage behind our OL that will have a new center and an LT next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redlichtie Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 5 hours ago, Lupz27 said: Jury is still out on him just being a situational pass rusher, I'm not using the 6th pick on a guy who can't do anything, but speed rush. I think he's more than 'just a situational pass rusher' and he has something we haven't had in more than 10 yearrs. Mauldin & Jenkins are fine young players but Williams looks a legit terror off the edge. The only question is how much does being surrounded by so many other talented players inflate his worth? always an issue when looking at 'bama prospects Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYDreamer Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 7 hours ago, Mecca said: David Johnson - 3rd Round Shady - 2nd Round Lev Bell - 2nd Round Ajayi - 4th Round Blount - Undrafted Rawls - Undrafted I can play this game all day. You see the trend? RB is a luxury position. We need premier position upgrades right now. EDGE/CB1/LT/QB/etc.. This is the best argument so far. Sign me up for OL or Pass rush Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadetree Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 11 hours ago, Tinstar said: He's not as good as people think he is. Buyer beware . I'm in this camp short career...Brandon Jacobs II rather have Cook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DetroitRed Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 Trade the pick for next year's # 1 to any taker, increasing our chances to land the USC QBSent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetsons Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 9 hours ago, Mecca said: Malik Hooker is more of a need than Adams and will most likely be available at 6. Hooker is an Earl Thomas / Clinton-Dix clone and my #1 target right now I like what I see Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maury77 Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 9 hours ago, long suffering jets fan said: I looked at some of Fournette's highlight films and I saw very little evidence of him breaking tackles. Unlike the Cook and Saquon Barkley highlights I looked at. I would expect a highly rated RB to be able to break tackles, not just run through massive holes created by blockers. https://mattwaldmanrsp.com/2016/11/29/rsp-boiler-room-no-54-leonard-fournette/ Fournette literally abuses DBs that try to tackle him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mecca Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 32 minutes ago, maury77 said: https://mattwaldmanrsp.com/2016/11/29/rsp-boiler-room-no-54-leonard-fournette/ Fournette literally abuses DBs that try to tackle him. It's idiotic to listen to anyone that only watched his highlight videos. Most people prefer Cook because he was on national TV more and always had big games. Fournette is an Adrian Peterson clone. I still wouldn't draft him at 6 because of the injury history + positional value Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMan77 Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 I worry about the wear and tear on him... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 14 hours ago, Jet_Engine1 said: Dalvin Cook will be a better pro Agreed 100% but if this team takes a RB at #6 overall, I'm going to need someone to put me in a straight jacket and lock me a room with 4 padded walls because I'm afraid of what I might do to this regime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 3 hours ago, DetroitRed said: Trade the pick for next year's # 1 to any taker, increasing our chances to land the USC QB Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app I'm on that train as well. I would have no issue with trading right out the 1st round, pick up a couple of later picks this year and get a1st next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 48 minutes ago, Mecca said: It's idiotic to listen to anyone that only watched his highlight videos. Most people prefer Cook because he was on national TV more and always had big games. Fournette is an Adrian Peterson clone. I still wouldn't draft him at 6 because of the injury history + positional value Cook steps his game up vs. better competition. Look at what he does top rated D's...(Florida, Michigan, Clemson). He literally goes bananas. The guy is insane. Whereas, Fournette averages 1.9 ypc vs. Bama. That's not a good look in addition to his injury history. I like Cook considerably more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prime21 Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 Although we have problems on the line, a good running back will take some pressure off our QB named ..... ______ <--- fill in the name Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenwichjetfan Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 His freakish physical traits aside, an RB without an OL that can open up lanes is as useless. Plus, if you're not pass protecting, you're coming off the field minimum of 3rd down, and in today's offenses, potentially on 2nd downs as well in favor of a pass protecting/pass catching RB. Hard pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 11 hours ago, 56mehl56 said: I don't see any QB going top 10. The two stud edge rushers will be gone and there's really no dominant LT . The value picks at 6 seem to be RB or S. I agree that there is no QB worth a top 10 pick, but I also think there will be 2 off the board. teams are willing to reach for QB's. Just hope the Jets aren't with two young ones already in house. If I had to make a guess I suspect the Jets will take either Hooker or Adams. Hate to use #6 on a S, but it is a need, and IMO they will be the best value on the board. At this point it is very pre-mature to get locked in on a particular pick, but fun to guess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 10 hours ago, King P said: More like this guy Barnett is a bad man. He literally took over the game defensively for the Vols vs. my Gators this year. He was unblockable. I'm just not sure how he fits here. He's more of a 4-3 DE than a 3-4 OL. I feel like he's another great player that's a poor fit for the system. Basically how our entire D is constructed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mecca Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 49 minutes ago, JiF said: Cook steps his game up vs. better competition. Look at what he does top rated D's...(Florida, Michigan, Clemson). He literally goes bananas. The guy is insane. Whereas, Fournette averages 1.9 ypc vs. Bama. That's not a good look in addition to his injury history. I like Cook considerably more Using a one game sample size to justify an argument is an insufficient premise to your logic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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