KRL Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 An early list of his top 50 players, it seems like there's a ton of secondary talent available: http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000775479/article/daniel-jeremiahs-top-50-prospects-for-2017-nfl-draft 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 Interesting. Kizer 1st qb, #15. Tim Williams #38 and Cam Robinson #40. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 I'm nervous about Tim Williams. Did not look great in the NC and has off the field issues 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRL Posted January 17, 2017 Author Share Posted January 17, 2017 2 minutes ago, UnitedWhofans said: I'm nervous about Tim Williams. Did not look great in the NC and has off the field issues Agreed, the two "beasts" out of ALA LB crew were Foster & Anderson. Williams didn't show up and that is troubling. Foster was scary good and looked like a younger, faster Ray Lewis 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 3 minutes ago, UnitedWhofans said: I'm nervous about Tim Williams. Did not look great in the NC and has off the field issues My guy, Mike Williams, #9. If DJ has those two Buckeyes at #2, he obviously didn't watch Williams torch them both in the semifinals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 Well that shakes up my draft rankings spreadsheet quite a bit. I actually like the list and feel some of the guys he has further down the list deserve to be there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinstar Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 The pick has to be the big Fatty Ryan Ramczyk . It has to be to continue building this OL . 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 1 minute ago, Tinstar said: The pick has to be the big Fatty Ryan Ramczyk . It has to be to continue building this OL . Sounds 100x better than Robinson. Also, think Taco Charlton gonna go way higher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 6 minutes ago, Beerfish said: Well that shakes up my draft rankings spreadsheet quite a bit. I actually like the list and feel some of the guys he has further down the list deserve to be there. Do you love Garrett as much as most of these guys? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 Just now, section314 said: Do you love Garrett as much as most of these guys? Really don't know enough about him, all I can say is that out of the 5 web rankings i have in my sheet so far he has been #1 in all 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 Just now, Beerfish said: Really don't know enough about him, all I can say is that out of the 5 web rankings i have in my sheet so far he has been #1 in all 5 I know. Some guys think he's as good, if not better, than Von Miller. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 5 minutes ago, Tinstar said: The pick has to be the big Fatty Ryan Ramczyk . It has to be to continue building this OL . I don't think Macc picks a player rated at 14 at 6, despite the need. I think we will see Macc aggressive in targeting OL in FA, like they just did with Winters. I think we will also see them aggressive in the QB FA market. The key will continue to be these contracts that look expensive but only guaarantee 2 years. The Jets if they want could essentially draft a QB high (rd 1 or 2) and then have them start in year 3. The "best" players will be S and RB, which are not "premium" positions. Let's see how that rolls. But I can also see the rd 2 pick being as important than rd 1, because many good players, including EDGE and CB, will fall there. That will also be the pick where the Jets will be tempted to take a QB again. Not having a QB is really the best and perhaps only reason not to pick BPA, within reason. The Jets do not have a QB, and it has been killing their drafting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obrien2Toon Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 Is there any more of an ideal landing spot for all of these guys then Mccaffrey to the Pats. It will be Kevin Faulk all over again. Unless BB is sold on d lewis 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTownsell1 Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 5 minutes ago, section314 said: Interesting. Kizer 1st qb, #15. Tim Williams #38 and Cam Robinson #40. I don't think anyone would grade any of the QBs in the top 10, they may just put them in the top ten because they know teams at the top of the draft need a QB and teams usually reach for QBs. Kizer/Watson/Trubinsky are all equally talented QBs with serious question marks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 I am penciling in a corner for us right now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 3 minutes ago, Obrien2Toon said: Is there any more of an ideal landing spot for all of these guys then Mccaffrey to the Pats. It will be Kevin Faulk all over again. Unless BB is sold on d lewis They have a 1st rounder this year eh? So hard to keep track of that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 Just now, Beerfish said: I am penciling in a corner for us right now. the offense could really use a guy like cook to juice it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JETSfaninNE Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 I don't care what round, but we better draft the dude named Taco. I mean who doesn't love Tacos! And if he's just a JAG we can then use his name as a slur for below average play by saying He's just a Taco! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cant wait Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 Hooker all the way up to #2 I see Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRL Posted January 17, 2017 Author Share Posted January 17, 2017 Surprised at the low rankings for: Mitch Trubisky Deshaun Watson Jabrill Peppers Cam Robinson Tim Williams 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetdawgg Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 6 minutes ago, KRL said: Surprised at the low rankings for: Mitch Trubisky Deshaun Watson Jabrill Peppers Cam Robinson Tim Williams Agreed. Lots of noise early from the lookers. They probably need a great February to move up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 18 minutes ago, Augustiniak said: the offense could really use a guy like cook to juice it up. His name is Bilal Powell. They just have to use him, as indicated by the last few weeks of the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinstar Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 7 minutes ago, KRL said: Surprised at the low rankings for: Mitch Trubisky Deshaun Watson Jabrill Peppers Cam Robinson Tim Williams I'm not, because the two QBs all have questions that need answers and probably won't come anytime soon . Peppers doesn't have a true position even thou I think he will be a pro-bowl SS . He's spot-on about Cam Robinson and when you factor in his off the field,(Drug and Weapons charges) that kid will be lucky to get drafted in the 2nd round . Tim Williams reminds me of that kid the Jets had that was a terror in college but didn't have the strength to beat OTs at the pro level . Then there's that report about his many failed drug test that has surfaced . All these kids have issued that will need to be answered to the satisfaction of owners and GMs . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinstar Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 25 minutes ago, varjet said: I don't think Macc picks a player rated at 14 at 6, despite the need. I think we will see Macc aggressive in targeting OL in FA, like they just did with Winters. I think we will also see them aggressive in the QB FA market. The key will continue to be these contracts that look expensive but only guaarantee 2 years. The Jets if they want could essentially draft a QB high (rd 1 or 2) and then have them start in year 3. The "best" players will be S and RB, which are not "premium" positions. Let's see how that rolls. But I can also see the rd 2 pick being as important than rd 1, because many good players, including EDGE and CB, will fall there. That will also be the pick where the Jets will be tempted to take a QB again. Not having a QB is really the best and perhaps only reason not to pick BPA, within reason. The Jets do not have a QB, and it has been killing their drafting. That's DJs rating, but how do the Jets rate him and then you have to throw in need . It's BPA with need being a consideration . From this draft, that player IMO is Myles Garrett or Ryan Rymczyk . The edge rusher and the edge protector . IMO, whoever is hired as the OC, will determine who the QB added to this roster with the chance to be the starter will be . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 27 minutes ago, Augustiniak said: the offense could really use a guy like cook to juice it up. I would be happy enough if we took him but this regime by all indications are not going to do that. This is the quiet version of the Rex era and they will convince themselves that Powell is the answer at rb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lray Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 31 minutes ago, JoJoTownsell1 said: I don't think anyone would grade any of the QBs in the top 10, they may just put them in the top ten because they know teams at the top of the draft need a QB and teams usually reach for QBs. Kizer/Watson/Trubinsky are all equally talented QBs with serious question marks. I have Kizer as the top QB, just not #10 overall.. 47 minutes ago, KRL said: Agreed, the two "beasts" out of ALA LB crew were Foster & Anderson. Williams didn't show up and that is troubling. Foster was scary good and looked like a younger, faster Ray Lewis If you watch breakdown of Williams play you'll see how much he benefits from the play of Allen and Anderson especially. I think you can say the same of Foster though. I don't think he's quite as good as people say. 23 minutes ago, KRL said: Surprised at the low rankings for: Mitch Trubisky Deshaun Watson Jabrill Peppers Cam Robinson Tim Williams This seems right to me. Ignore the hype and recognise the play that won't translate to the NFL. All great college players but too much uncertainty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lray Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 Solomon Thomas ahead of Derek Barnett is craaaaaaazy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 8 minutes ago, Beerfish said: I would be happy enough if we took him but this regime by all indications are not going to do that. This is the quiet version of the Rex era and they will convince themselves that Powell is the answer at rb. they obviously didn't think much of powell most of the season as they overused forte. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTownsell1 Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 27 minutes ago, KRL said: Surprised at the low rankings for: Mitch Trubisky Deshaun Watson Jabrill Peppers Cam Robinson Tim Williams Cam is more of a pure Run blocker and is weak in pass protection. Trubinsky is very raw. Could have been a top pick with one more year of seasoning (assuming he improved). Trubinsky reminds me of Tannehill coming out of college. Watson is a little surprising. To me, he is a more mature version of Winston. Winston had a ton of INTs in college also, but he was still taken at the top of the draft. Watson will be an NFL QB. May take some time to adjust to the NFL. If Peppers drops to the end of the first, someone will land a pro bowl player. Some players have the "IT" factor, he is one of those guys. Tim williams is another great player but has off the field issues. Will be a steal for someone if he falls to end of 1st. He'll have a Bud Dupree impact for some team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SR24 Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 Safety Oline or Corner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 If we don't want to "miss" on this pick, we take Reuben Foster or Fournette, tbh. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stonehands Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 I am going to predict this list changes a lot as we head through the combine and approach the draft. (me going way out on a limb). 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 Are these safeties tempting anyone else? Someone who could cover would be nice. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 2 minutes ago, bitonti said: Are these safeties tempting anyone else? Someone who could cover would be nice. I remember watching Rutgers/OSU this past season. The BTN announcer compared the OSU safety to Ed Reed. That has stuck in my mind ever since. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Mart Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 1 hour ago, KRL said: An early list of his top 50 players, it seems like there's a ton of secondary talent available: http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000775479/article/daniel-jeremiahs-top-50-prospects-for-2017-nfl-draft I've read all fall evaluators saying there could be 12-14 CBs top 100 worthy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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