TuscanyTile2 Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 6 hours ago, nyjunc said: he was one of my favorite players growing up, he was hated by Jet fans by the 90s and no one was sad to see him leave(besides maybe me b/c I didn't understand back then, I was also wowed by meaningless highlights of him throwing down field but as I got older I learned better) he isn't close to sanchez. as a reg season QB putting up meaningless #s he was better. Ken inherited a young, talented team just off an AFC Championship Game and he never won a single playoff game BUT when he was benched his backup won one then we were leading the next week when Ryan got hurt and Ken came in and blew it for us. Mark inherited a team that couldn't make the playoffs a year earlier w/ no Brady around and a creampuff sched w/ a HOF QB under C. From what I remember, people liked O'Brien early in his career (after he established himself) but got fed up with him later in his career. I think fans loved him during the 10-1 start to 1986 but lost faith in him after the 5 losses. Pat Ryan won us the KC wildcard game. I know Ryan got hurt in the Cleveland game (I think relatively early in that game) and maybe things would've been different for both O'Brien and the franchise had Gastineau not had the roughing the passer call against him and we pulled out the win. This is not to speak badly of Gastineau while he's in ill health. I was definitely a fan of his growing up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 5 hours ago, SAR I said: Bingo. Why is it that people need to puff up these lesser players? And then refuse to accept the fact that Mark Sanchez was the second-greatest quarterback in Jets history? It's bad enough the team doesn't know what it's doing. The fans being equally blind is almost as maddening. SAR I Because the statement is wrong. Kenny was an actual QB who could and did win games with his arm. Not by interception setting him up or whatever. Blind? If A blind fool were to watch Kenny vs Marino etc he would know immediately who was better, Sanchez never played games like Kenny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAR I Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 2 hours ago, Sperm Edwards said: Sanchez was carried by Rex Ryan. 2009 as a 22-year-old rookie who should've still been in college, yes. 2010, the exact opposite, Mark's fourth-quarter heroics turned 6-10 to 11-5 and led the Jets to the second best record in their history. It is perfectly reasonable to characterize Mark Sanchez's career as poor. However, he was the perfect quarterback for our two AFC Finalist teams and he played exceptionally for someone of his experience, age, and skillset. He should be remembered fondly and welcomed back with open arms in a few years when we anniversary those teams. Better yet, we need a quarterback exactly like Mark Sanchez right now, I would be very pleased if we brought him back as a veteran backup and let him endear himself to fans once again. SAR I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 2 hours ago, SAR I said: Vinny Testaverde was on the Jets for 6 years, made 2 playoff appearances, was 1-2 in the postseason. In 2000, his lousy play made the Jets the only NFL team to open a season 6-1 and miss the playoffs, throwing 25 interceptions [We ran Fitzpatrick out of town for throwing 17]. Chad Pennington sucked. Averaged 7 starts a year in an 8 year career. 2-3 in the postseason. Pathetic. Mark Sanchez was on the Jets for 4 years, made 2 playoff appearances, was 4-2 in the postseason. Has the highest QBR in Jets postseason history. Was the best Jet on the field in consecutive AFC Championship Games. Played well enough to lead us to the Super Bowl. Twice. Add it all up, it's Namath and Sanchez, no other Jets quarterback was worth a damn. Vinny may have played the "local hero" and Chad may have played the "cuddly leader" but neither was any good. If you want to look at single seasons, perhaps '98 and '02 are on the Jets Mount Rushmore along with '09 and '10, but their collective careers were massive turds and time wasters. Sanchez too, by the way. But he was the best of the 3 of them, if that matters. SAR I Sanchez was the best Jet on the field? lololololol. stick to what you know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 3 hours ago, SAR I said: SAR I The picture is priceless! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 1 hour ago, SAR I said: 2009 as a 22-year-old rookie who should've still been in college, yes. 2010, the exact opposite, Mark's fourth-quarter heroics turned 6-10 to 11-5 and led the Jets to the second best record in their history. It is perfectly reasonable to characterize Mark Sanchez's career as poor. However, he was the perfect quarterback for our two AFC Finalist teams and he played exceptionally for someone of his experience, age, and skillset. He should be remembered fondly and welcomed back with open arms in a few years when we anniversary those teams. Better yet, we need a quarterback exactly like Mark Sanchez right now, I would be very pleased if we brought him back as a veteran backup and let him endear himself to fans once again. SAR I You're worse w/ Sanchez than I am w/ Matt Simms. Chez was handed the Denver job this year and let it slip through his fingers. He's a 3rd stringer these days. I think there would still be plenty of residual Sanchez hate from Jet fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAR I Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 1 hour ago, TuscanyTile2 said: You're worse w/ Sanchez than I am w/ Matt Simms. Chez was handed the Denver job this year and let it slip through his fingers. He's a 3rd stringer these days. I think there would still be plenty of residual Sanchez hate from Jet fans. Sanchez career is a bust, no question. But Sanchez' first two seasons were magical and he was the greatest quarterback we've seen since Namath for a two-year span featuring consecutive playoff appearances and 20 wins. That may not be a popular stance. It just happens to be true. SAR I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 Just now, SAR I said: Sanchez career is a bust, no question. But Sanchez' first two seasons were magical and he was the greatest quarterback we've seen since Namath for a two-year span. That may not be a popular stance. It just happens to be true. SAR I I'll grant you that if you grant me that Matt Simms was the greatest pre-season QB this franchise has seen since Brett Ratliff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAR I Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 1 minute ago, TuscanyTile2 said: I'll grant you that if you grant me that Matt Simms was the greatest pre-season QB this franchise has seen since Brett Ratliff. Granted. SAR I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 4 minutes ago, SAR I said: Sanchez career is a bust, no question. But Sanchez' first two seasons were magical and he was the greatest quarterback we've seen since Namath for a two-year span featuring consecutive playoff appearances and 20 wins. That may not be a popular stance. It just happens to be true. SAR I Who are the contenders for this btw? How many consecutive playoff appearances have we seen? Kenny O? Did Chad ever make the playoffs twice consecutively? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAR I Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 14 minutes ago, TuscanyTile2 said: Who are the contenders for this btw? How many consecutive playoff appearances have we seen? Kenny O? Did Chad ever make the playoffs twice consecutively? Namath '68-'69 went 21-7, 2-1 in the playoffs, Super Bowl MVP Sanchez '09-'10 went 20-12, 4-2 in the playoffs, 22 year old kid eschewing his senior year in college. Todd '81-'82 went 16-8-1, 1-2 in the playoffs, lost Mud Bowl in strike-shortened year. O'Brien '85-'86 went 21-11, 1-2 in the playoffs, only back-to-back playoff QB to not advance to AFC Championship Game Those are the contenders. '01-'02 was a back-to-back for the Jets but Testaverde and Pennington had a season each. Sanchez gets the nod over Todd and O'Brien as he has a winning playoff record. Even a Sanchez-hater can see that he's in the 50 year pantheon of Jets quarterbacks. You want to visit this site: http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/nyj/ SAR I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 6 hours ago, SAR I said: SAR I Omg ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sourceworx Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 Nothing beats SAR in a Chad thread. Nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 12 hours ago, SAR I said: 2009 as a 22-year-old rookie who should've still been in college, yes. 2010, the exact opposite, Mark's fourth-quarter heroics turned 6-10 to 11-5 and led the Jets to the second best record in their history. It is perfectly reasonable to characterize Mark Sanchez's career as poor. However, he was the perfect quarterback for our two AFC Finalist teams and he played exceptionally for someone of his experience, age, and skillset. He should be remembered fondly and welcomed back with open arms in a few years when we anniversary those teams. Better yet, we need a quarterback exactly like Mark Sanchez right now, I would be very pleased if we brought him back as a veteran backup and let him endear himself to fans once again. SAR I He's remembered as the QB that kept us from home field advantage, and such poor investment (and reinvestment) in him prevented wiser investment into a worthwhile QB. He was the weak link on an otherwise top-notch team. The last thing any franchise needs is a QB like Mark Sanchez, unless the goal is to ruin said franchise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 14 hours ago, TuscanyTile2 said: From what I remember, people liked O'Brien early in his career (after he established himself) but got fed up with him later in his career. I think fans loved him during the 10-1 start to 1986 but lost faith in him after the 5 losses. Pat Ryan won us the KC wildcard game. I know Ryan got hurt in the Cleveland game (I think relatively early in that game) and maybe things would've been different for both O'Brien and the franchise had Gastineau not had the roughing the passer call against him and we pulled out the win. This is not to speak badly of Gastineau while he's in ill health. I was definitely a fan of his growing up. '85 and '86 people were comparing him w/ Marino so yes he was loved and I still think liked for a few years but around 1989 it started to turn w/ the crowd at games. I was only at 1 game in '89 and don;'t remember, I started going to every game in 1990 and the fans were on him his last few years here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 13 hours ago, Jet Nut said: Because the statement is wrong. Kenny was an actual QB who could and did win games with his arm. Not by interception setting him up or whatever. Blind? If A blind fool were to watch Kenny vs Marino etc he would know immediately who was better, Sanchez never played games like Kenny how many big games did he win w/ his arm? how many playoff games? we know the answer on playoff games. what games would we consider big games in his career? '85 vs. pats for 1st place? we won 16-13 in OT and Kurt Sohn had great PR in OT to setup GW FG '85 week 16 vs. Cle for playoff spot? we crushed them 37-10, that game turned on a Kenny INT that was ripped out by Kurt Sohn and run in for a TD. '86 never won a big game fast forward to '91 at 7-5 led us to 3 straight losses where O averaged under 10 PPG in those 3 games. '91 week 16 at Miami: he got the job done, great last minute drive to tie it and great throw to set up GW FG in OT. where are all the big games he won w/ his arm? it's not he stepped up against Marino but those teams only played one big game in their careers against each other. Kenny fooled fans, he looks good in some highlights, put up decent #s for a few years but it was all fool's gold. could never step up when we needed him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAR I Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 45 minutes ago, Sperm Edwards said: He's remembered as the QB that kept us from home field advantage, and such poor investment (and reinvestment) in him prevented wiser investment into a worthwhile QB. He was the weak link on an otherwise top-notch team. The last thing any franchise needs is a QB like Mark Sanchez, unless the goal is to ruin said franchise. The '09 team was a 9-7 back-in with a Colts team that laid down like dogs and a Bengals team that had already clinched. We were no better than 8-8, hardly a top-notch team. The '10 team had a defense good enough to blow 5 games in the 4th quarter requiring Mark Sanchez to lead comebacks against Houston, Denver, Detroit, Cleveland, and Pittsburgh to turn 6-10 into 11-5. On the topic of investment, 90% of all money spent by the Jets in the Ryan years was on the defense, what little investment there was on offense was made to old guys with a tiny bit of tread left on the tires. Braylon Edwards, Plaxico Burress, Ladanian Tomlinson, Thomas Jones, Tony Richardson, Santonio Holmes, these guys were one-season wonders, not youngsters who could build a rapport with our 22 year old rookie. And those we did draft were epic busts, Chaz Schillenz, Clyde Gates, Stephen Hill, these were not competitive NFL players. What we know is that when he had some weapons, and the promised Ground and Pound running game and the promised "we'll take two of yours" defense, he led us to consecutive Championship Games and amassed the best postseason record in team history. And all this happened while he was still a baby, he was 24 and had a 16-4 run and 6 playoff games under his belt and then we didn't give him any support. After decades of trying, we had actually found a young quarterback with potential and we abandoned him. It's truly one of the most tragic moments in team history, the offseason leading up to the 2012 campaign. SAR I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 1 hour ago, Sperm Edwards said: He's remembered as the QB that kept us from home field advantage, and such poor investment (and reinvestment) in him prevented wiser investment into a worthwhile QB. He was the weak link on an otherwise top-notch team. The last thing any franchise needs is a QB like Mark Sanchez, unless the goal is to ruin said franchise. The "reinvestment" was definitely the deal-breaker for me. While he didn't work out, I didn't completely hate on him in his rookie deal. It was definitely more bad than good, but there were at least a few fleeting glimmers of hope, which was still unfortunately more than we'd seen for many years, so it at least had it's occasional moments of entertainment (if not even more moments of frustration). That certainly faded away though, and by the time everyone should have realized they needed to move on, they instead doubled-down. The only plus side was at least the Jets realized the idiocy of their investment a little quicker than the previous time they'd given out a bad QB contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 28 minutes ago, Bleedin Green said: The "reinvestment" was definitely the deal-breaker for me. While he didn't work out, I didn't completely hate on him in his rookie deal. It was definitely more bad than good, but there were at least a few fleeting glimmers of hope, which was still unfortunately more than we'd seen for many years, so it at least had it's occasional moments of entertainment (if not even more moments of frustration). That certainly faded away though, and by the time everyone should have realized they needed to move on, they instead doubled-down. The only plus side was at least the Jets realized the idiocy of their investment a little quicker than the previous time they'd given out a bad QB contract. Honestly I can only fault them so much for trading up for him in '09 (though it's hard to rationalize that after failing to do so a year earlier with a far better & more polished prospect in Ryan). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 40 minutes ago, SAR I said: The '09 team was a 9-7 back-in with a Colts team that laid down like dogs and a Bengals team that had already clinched. We were no better than 8-8, hardly a top-notch team. The '10 team had a defense good enough to blow 5 games in the 4th quarter requiring Mark Sanchez to lead comebacks against Houston, Denver, Detroit, Cleveland, and Pittsburgh to turn 6-10 into 11-5. On the topic of investment, 90% of all money spent by the Jets in the Ryan years was on the defense, what little investment there was on offense was made to old guys with a tiny bit of tread left on the tires. Braylon Edwards, Plaxico Burress, Ladanian Tomlinson, Thomas Jones, Tony Richardson, Santonio Holmes, these guys were one-season wonders, not youngsters who could build a rapport with our 22 year old rookie. And those we did draft were epic busts, Chaz Schillenz, Clyde Gates, Stephen Hill, these were not competitive NFL players. What we know is that when he had some weapons, and the promised Ground and Pound running game and the promised "we'll take two of yours" defense, he led us to consecutive Championship Games and amassed the best postseason record in team history. And all this happened while he was still a baby, he was 24 and had a 16-4 run and 6 playoff games under his belt and then we didn't give him any support. After decades of trying, we had actually found a young quarterback with potential and we abandoned him. It's truly one of the most tragic moments in team history, the offseason leading up to the 2012 campaign. SAR I Wrong. We were no better than an 8-8 or 9-7 with Mark Sanchez at QB. Anyway, one of the wins came with Kellen Clemens starting. His crappiness was something the team constantly needed to gameplan around. Nobody serious believes that the driver of the team's success was Mark Sanchez. We drafted a bust, as the Jets have done for decades. Move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 4 minutes ago, Sperm Edwards said: Wrong. We were no better than an 8-8 or 9-7 with Mark Sanchez at QB. Anyway, one of the wins came with Kellen Clemens starting. His crappiness was something the team constantly needed to gameplan around. Nobody serious believes that the driver of the team's success was Mark Sanchez. We drafted a bust, as the Jets have done for decades. Move on. he was a rookie who was mostly good that year, most of his INTs came in 4 of his 15 starts. he elevated his play in postseason, we don't win any of those games w/o him. in 2010 he was really good the majority of that year ad again stepped up in postseason. 2011 we started stripping weapons- he lost Cotch and Braylon who were his 2 favorite receivers, by 2012 when Holmes went down early w/ an injury and when Keller went down his main weapons were stephen hill(rookie version), Chaz schilens and Clyde Gates. we failed hi, he didn't fail us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 6 minutes ago, Sperm Edwards said: Wrong. We were no better than an 8-8 or 9-7 with Mark Sanchez at QB. Anyway, one of the wins came with Kellen Clemens starting. His crappiness was something the team constantly needed to gameplan around. Nobody serious believes that the driver of the team's success was Mark Sanchez. We drafted a bust, as the Jets have done for decades. Move on. This. Trying to portray those two years as something driven by Sanchez, as opposed to something Sanchez was carried through by a strong team and Defense, is revisionist history at it's worst. There is a good reason Sanchez has amounted to absolutely nothing after leaving New York, and currently resides in a #3 QB spot in Dallas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 10 minutes ago, Warfish said: This. Trying to portray those two years as something driven by Sanchez, as opposed to something Sanchez was carried through by a strong team and Defense, is revisionist history at it's worst. There is a good reason Sanchez has amounted to absolutely nothing after leaving New York, and currently resides in a #3 QB spot in Dallas. we were led by our D no doubt about it but Sanchez was vital to both runs. we couldn't even make the playoffs a year earlier w/ easier sched and no Brady w/ a HOF QB. Sanchez was really good in Philly in his one chance at extended action. he's much better than Fitz and we would have had a chance in 2015 w/ Mark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 10 minutes ago, nyjunc said: he was a rookie who was mostly good that year, most of his INTs came in 4 of his 15 starts. he elevated his play in postseason, we don't win any of those games w/o him. in 2010 he was really good the majority of that year ad again stepped up in postseason. 2011 we started stripping weapons- he lost Cotch and Braylon who were his 2 favorite receivers, by 2012 when Holmes went down early w/ an injury and when Keller went down his main weapons were stephen hill(rookie version), Chaz schilens and Clyde Gates. we failed hi, he didn't fail us. yawn. He benefitted from a sh*t-ton of luck as well. I believe in his first 3 starts our opponents dropped a good half-dozen picks thrown right at them. These teams dropping them doesn't make his passes any better. It means he (we) got lucky despite his ineptitude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 2 minutes ago, Sperm Edwards said: yawn. He benefitted from a sh*t-ton of luck as well. I believe in his first 3 starts our opponents dropped a good half-dozen picks thrown right at them. These teams dropping them doesn't make his passes any better. It means he (we) got lucky despite his ineptitude. stop w/ the opponents dropping balls nonsense. That was 2010 by the way where he supposedty had a high # of potential INTs dropped but it was all BS. yep, it was all luck. winning 4 road playoff games was all luck. spot on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 5 minutes ago, nyjunc said: stop w/ the opponents dropping balls nonsense. That was 2010 by the way where he supposedty had a high # of potential INTs dropped but it was all BS. yep, it was all luck. winning 4 road playoff games was all luck. spot on. It was also his first 3 games, which was 2009. I think the Tennessee game alone he threw 3 of them, regardless of whatever stats log those results. They are awful passes. Whether or not the defense takes advantage of them is irrelevant, and gives no credit to him for the ineptitude of others. If you want to argue that a pass thrown right at a defender's hands is a better job by the QB, and thereby makes him a better QB, by virtue of the defender muffing it, you can go on believing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 And while we are crying over spilled milk, maybe the SB3 win should never have happened. Maybe it would have set the jets on a course where they would have had 2 dynasty periods. Who knows? Oh the lament. Where is Marty McFly with his Delorian to go back and advise the Jets of the past? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 17 minutes ago, Sperm Edwards said: It was also his first 3 games, which was 2009. I think the Tennessee game alone he threw 3 of them, regardless of whatever stats log those results. They are awful passes. Whether or not the defense takes advantage of them is irrelevant, and gives no credit to him for the ineptitude of others. If you want to argue that a pass thrown right at a defender's hands is a better job by the QB, and thereby makes him a better QB, by virtue of the defender muffing it, you can go on believing it. show me all the should have been INTs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 7 minutes ago, nyjunc said: show me all the should have been INTs? Lol you go ahead; I'm not your errand boy. You feel free to find the points in the video where each incomplete pass was thrown, and note them here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 37 minutes ago, nyjunc said: we were led by our D no doubt about it but Sanchez was vital to both runs. No, he simply wasn't. Replace Sanchez with any average-level NFL Starting QB, and we're either equally as good, or materially better than we were with Sanchez. He was something that needed overcome (in the regular season). Only in the playoffs did he rise up and play better, which for him was simply playing up to average QB levels. Says alot about Jets fans that we have to try and turn sh*t into gold with guys like Sanchez and Smith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 10 minutes ago, Sperm Edwards said: Lol you go ahead; I'm not your errand boy. You feel free to find the points in the video where each incomplete pass was thrown, and note them here. you made the false claim not me. I provided the evidence. good luck finding all those would be INTs. 3 minutes ago, Warfish said: No, he simply wasn't. Replace Sanchez with any average-level NFL Starting QB, and we're either equally as good, or materially better than we were with Sanchez. He was something that needed overcome (in the regular season). Only in the playoffs did he rise up and play better, which for him was simply playing up to average QB levels. Says alot about Jets fans that we have to try and turn sh*t into gold with guys like Sanchez and Smith. we had a HOFer w/ easier sched and no Brady a year earlier- we couldn't even make the playoffs. he outplayed Palmer, Rivers and Brady(and probably Peyton the 2nd time) in 2 postseasons. tell me all the games he held us back and cost us those first 2 years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetster Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 What is with this revisionist history? Mark Sánchez blows! His warts were covered up by one of the best Olines the Jets have ever had & some veteran offensive players that still had a bit of gas in their tanks. Sánchez made one great throw in his career, to Santonio Holmes in Gillette & Holmes made a great toe tap catch in the endzone. His other TDs in that game were a flare pass to LT & a short pass to Edwards who dragged two Pats defenders into the endzone. This is the same QB that lost a game to Buffalo at home by throwing 4 picks while his team compiled OVER 300 YARDS on the ground, first time in the history of the sport that had EVER happened. He's been on 3 more teams since, demoted by each & everyone, and he still throws bonehead picks to this day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 9 minutes ago, Jetster said: What is with this revisionist history? Mark Sánchez blows! His warts were covered up by one of the best Olines the Jets have ever had & some veteran offensive players that still had a bit of gas in their tanks. Sánchez made one great throw in his career, to Santonio Holmes in Gillette & Holmes made a great toe tap catch in the endzone. His other TDs in that game were a flare pass to LT & a short pass to Edwards who dragged two Pats defenders into the endzone. This is the same QB that lost a game to Buffalo at home by throwing 4 picks while his team compiled OVER 300 YARDS on the ground, first time in the history of the sport that had EVER happened. He's been on 3 more teams since, demoted by each & everyone, and he still throws bonehead picks to this day. I don't know where to begin, this post couldn't be more incorrect if you tried. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetster Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 8 minutes ago, nyjunc said: I don't know where to begin, this post couldn't be more incorrect if you tried. PROVE IT! OR SHUT IT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAR I Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 1 hour ago, Bleedin Green said: The "reinvestment" was definitely the deal-breaker for me. While he didn't work out, I didn't completely hate on him in his rookie deal. It was definitely more bad than good, but there were at least a few fleeting glimmers of hope, which was still unfortunately more than we'd seen for many years, so it at least had it's occasional moments of entertainment (if not even more moments of frustration). That certainly faded away though, and by the time everyone should have realized they needed to move on, they instead doubled-down. The only plus side was at least the Jets realized the idiocy of their investment a little quicker than the previous time they'd given out a bad QB contract. They doubled-down on a great QB prospect who had proven himself more than any 1st or 2nd year quarterback since Namath. What they forgot to do was give him any weapons. Chaz Schillenz, Clyde Gates, fat Shone Green, really? SAR I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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