TuscanyTile2 Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 I think I've mentioned this before but repeating here... How about the Jets trade their 1st rounder (#6 overall) to the Rams for Jared Goff. Basically the Rams would be taking a mulligan and the Jets would be hoping Goff just needed time to develop (remember it took Eli like 4 years to be any good). If Goff is good then we're set. If he stinks, we can probably pick Darnold next year. Assuming the Rams would accept (I have no idea if they would but it sounds "in the ballpark" at least), would you make this trade? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 Ok i'll play why the hell not we have nothing to lose and everything to gain we need a franchise QB...........nothing else matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
win4ever Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 10 minutes ago, TuscanyTile2 said: I think I've mentioned this before but repeating here... How about the Jets trade their 1st rounder (#6 overall) to the Rams for Jared Goff. Basically the Rams would be taking a mulligan and the Jets would be hoping Goff just needed time to develop (remember it took Eli like 4 years to be any good). If Goff is good then we're set. If he stinks, we can probably pick Darnold next year. Assuming the Rams would accept (I have no idea if they would but it sounds "in the ballpark" at least), would you make this trade? Last year, I would have said Yes, but he looked horrible last year to me. It's not really the adjustment that I'm worried about, he seemed to lack deep ball passing ability, which really concerns me because he seemed to do OK with it in college. When I was looking at his college tape last year, one thing I liked was his ability to put touch on the ball for deep passes (something I felt guys like Lynch or Geno lacked when they came out) but unfortunately, he doesn't seem to have the pure arm strength needed to do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted January 26, 2017 Author Share Posted January 26, 2017 10 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: Ok i'll play why the hell not we have nothing to lose and everything to gain we need a franchise QB...........nothing else matters. Geez does he look like Chad in that pic. I would have football nightmares. I might have to change my mind on my own trade idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted January 26, 2017 Author Share Posted January 26, 2017 7 minutes ago, win4ever said: Last year, I would have said Yes, but he looked horrible last year to me. It's not really the adjustment that I'm worried about, he seemed to lack deep ball passing ability, which really concerns me because he seemed to do OK with it in college. When I was looking at his college tape last year, one thing I liked was his ability to put touch on the ball for deep passes (something I felt guys like Lynch or Geno lacked when they came out) but unfortunately, he doesn't seem to have the pure arm strength needed to do so. The only way we'd have a shot at him was if he looked terrible last year. No way the Rams would consider trading him if he showed great promise. Basically we'd be hoping that we were "buying low" and that he would eventually match the expectations that the Rams had for him going into last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capoliver Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 I would not be up for that at all. Petty looked much better than Goff. Im ready to sink or swim with Petty next yr. If he can stay healthy I think he could be a star QB in this league Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 lets draft prescott in the 3rd this time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Mart Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 Adam Caplan (@caplannfl) 1/25/17, 6:19 PM QB Aaron Murray worked out for the #Jets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 13 minutes ago, C Mart said: Adam Caplan (@caplannfl) 1/25/17, 6:19 PM QB Aaron Murray worked out for the #Jets. I like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogglez Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 32 minutes ago, TuscanyTile2 said: Geez does he look like Chad in that pic. I would have football nightmares. I might have to change my mind on my own trade idea. Nah, he's Ryan Gosling's athletic clone. And no, we shouldn't trade for Goff, nor would the Rams trade him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 29 minutes ago, C Mart said: Adam Caplan (@caplannfl) 1/25/17, 6:19 PM QB Aaron Murray worked out for the #Jets. Like Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 40 minutes ago, capoliver said: I would not be up for that at all. Petty looked much better than Goff. Im ready to sink or swim with Petty next yr. If he can stay healthy I think he could be a star QB in this league Petty still can't read defenses. He's had 2 years to study and the word is still clueless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 12 minutes ago, Dcat said: Petty still can't read defenses. He's had 2 years to study and the word is still clueless. Talk to @win4ever about that. Petty looked like he progressed a great deal in reading defenses. I don't understand where you guys get this from.....I'm tired of hearing it. He clearly knew where to go with the ball 90% of the time. If you seen the breakdowns than you would know this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyLV Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 40 minutes ago, Dcat said: Petty still can't read defenses. He's had 2 years to study and the word is still clueless. That statement is simply not true. He was going through his progressions OK. He just was playing behind a horrific line, with players that had with players that had quit, and he was essentially learning on the fly. I was somewhat impressed by him actually. He threw a lot of nice balls. I do not want a veteran. Start Petty or Hack. Only way we get good is to DEVELOP a franchise QB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 1 hour ago, Patriot Killa said: I like this. Why?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted January 26, 2017 Author Share Posted January 26, 2017 1 hour ago, Dcat said: Petty still can't read defenses. He's had 2 years to study and the word is still clueless. Not sure if he can or can't read defenses. One thing is for sure though - he CAN'T play in the freaking rain! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 8 minutes ago, CrazyCarl40 said: Why?! I watched a lot of Murray in college, and I like what he brought to the table as far as skill set goes. He obviously isn't a world beater but he operated the pro style offense nicely. They had success with him. I haven't seen much of him since being drafted though...I don't even know if he's seen the field since. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 21 minutes ago, Patriot Killa said: I watched a lot of Murray in college, and I like what he brought to the table as far as skill set goes. He obviously isn't a world beater but he operated the pro style offense nicely. They had success with him. I haven't seen much of him since being drafted though...I don't even know if he's seen the field since. Hasn't played a snap of NFL football. Has bounced between three teams. Can't even get a practice squad gig. Not sure the purpose he serves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brown Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 I don't get folks saying...., Yea the Jets brought in Aaron Murray?? Why is he better than Petty or Hack? Petty was a higher draft pick, better arm and now has actual NFL game experience I don't get it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 1 minute ago, Charlie Brown said: I don't get folks saying...., Yea the Jets brought in Aaron Murray?? Why is he better than Petty or Hack? Well Charlie we've seen Petty,Hack is a mystery and we need a QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 32 minutes ago, CrazyCarl40 said: Hasn't played a snap of NFL football. Has bounced between three teams. Can't even get a practice squad gig. Not sure the purpose he serves. Hmm.. probably just doing they're due diligence then. Ultimately I would like to see Hack and Petty battle it out for #1 and #2...we need to find out more before drafting another QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 Just now, joewilly12 said: Well Charlie we've seen Petty,Hack is a mystery and we need a QB. You have seen Petty under terrible circumstances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 1 minute ago, Patriot Killa said: You have seen Petty under terrible circumstances. Im a big Bryce Petty supporter but I just don't know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brown Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 3 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: Well Charlie we've seen Petty,Hack is a mystery and we need a QB. I hear that but why bring in a guy who is at best only marginally better than the guys you drafted and supposedly are grooming on your own team? There is a reason why this guy has been on 3 teams in the three years he has been in the league and don't I think he has looked like Aaron Rogers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 Just now, Charlie Brown said: I hear that but why bring in a guy who is at best only marginally better than the guys you drafted and supposedly are grooming on your own team? There is a reason why this guy has been on 3 teams in the three years he has been in the league and don't think he has looked like Aaron Rogers Agree but no stone should go unturned until we find a decent QB until then nothing else matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 2 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: Im a big Bryce Petty supporter but I just don't know. All I'm saying is the progression was really there from year one to year two. Give him a Chance to show you progression from year 2 to year 3 now with some starting experience and another offseason of work. Guys are giving up on these two too soon imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 Just now, Patriot Killa said: All I'm saying is the progression was really there from year one to year two. Give him a Chance to show you progression from year 2 to year 3 now with some starting experience and another offseason of work. Guys are giving up on these two too soon imo. I don't know Petty and Hackenberg I really want to win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brown Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 2 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: Agree but no stone should go unturned until we find a decent QB until then nothing else matters. Ok I concede. You are definitely right on this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinstar Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 2 minutes ago, Charlie Brown said: Ok I concede. You are definitely right on this. This may have more to do with who the New OC is going to be than anything else ? Stay tuned . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brown Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 5 minutes ago, Tinstar said: This may have more to do with who the New OC is going to be than anything else ? Stay tuned . I know what you are thinking and I forgot about that. That would be a good good thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 31 minutes ago, Tinstar said: This may have more to do with who the New OC is going to be than anything else ? Stay tuned . 25 minutes ago, Charlie Brown said: I know what you are thinking and I forgot about that. That would be a good good thing ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the Claw Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 No fault at seeing who/what's out there. Though I doubt we'll be getting our FQB through FA, it can't hurt. Sheesh, peopleAs for the OP, it's an interesting proposal; however, Goff looks a little shell shocked to me. I dunno, just never looked composed. I'd pass, if I were the Jets, and roll with Petty, Hack and (insert competition). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 8 minutes ago, the Claw said: No fault at seeing who/what's out there. Though I doubt we'll be getting our FQB through FA, it can't hurt. Sheesh, people As for the OP, it's an interesting proposal; however, Goff looks a little shell shocked to me. I dunno, just never looked composed. I'd pass, if I were the Jets, and roll with Petty, Hack and (insert competition). Our #6 overall pick for Goff is interesting? ... did you not see Goff this year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brown Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 22 minutes ago, Patriot Killa said: ?? http://www.nj.com/jets/index.ssf/2017/01/jets_offensive_coordinator_candidate_eric_studesvi.html "There are rumblings that Chiefs co-offensive coordinator Matt Nagy, who worked with Bowles on Andy Reid's staff in Philly, is on the Jets radar." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 5 minutes ago, Charlie Brown said: http://www.nj.com/jets/index.ssf/2017/01/jets_offensive_coordinator_candidate_eric_studesvi.html "There are rumblings that Chiefs co-offensive coordinator Matt Nagy, who worked with Bowles on Andy Reid's staff in Philly, is on the Jets radar." He may be...but there are so many things that go into that for us to hire him. First of all they have to allow him to interview. Are they letting the other co-OC go?not a good sign if so..Haven't heard a peep about him. Just the 2 other guys. He's #1 on my OC list though.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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