JoJoTownsell1 Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 Let me start off by saying I hope this never happens. I hate Kap for football and personal reasons, but it's the off-season and this board is a little slow right now: The Jets have a new offensive coordinator, Saints wide receivers coach John Morton. But they're still looking for answers at quarterback. Ryan Fitzpatrick and Geno Smith surely are goners in free agency. Christian Hackenberg is back for Year 2 in 2017, while Bryce Petty returns for Year 3. There's a good chance the Jets will fill out their quarterback room by adding a veteran quarterback -- somebody like Brian Hoyer, Mike Glennon, or Tyrod Taylor, just to name three possibilities. But what about the 49ers' Colin Kaepernick? Before we get into the details about his situation, know that Morton has a previous relationship with Kaepernick. Morton was the 49ers' receivers coach from 2011-14. Kaepernick was a rarely used rookie in 2011. Then he was productive from 2012-14 -- 39 starts (25-14 record), 50 touchdown passes, 21 interceptions, and a 90.7 quarterback rating. Kaepernick helped the 49ers make the Super Bowl in 2012. Then his production dropped off from 2015-16 -- 19 starts (3-16 record), 22 touchdowns, nine interceptions, and a 85.5 rating. Still, Kaepernick's stats weren't terrible in 2016 -- 16 touchdowns, four picks, and a 90.7 rating. Plus, he's fairly young. He turns 30 in November. Should the Jets go after him this offseason? Morton certainly can provide the organization with information on what Kaepernick did well from 2012-14. From a salary cap standpoint, the 49ers moving on from Kaepernick this offseason makes sense. He is entering the final year of his contract and is due to have a $19.3 million cap figure ($14.5 million of which is his non-guaranteed base salary). If the 49ers cut or trade Kaepernick, they'd save $16.9 million in cap space. With the 49ers drafting second this year, there's a good chance they'll take a quarterback, like Mitch Trubisky or Deshaun Watson, because it sure looks like they're done with Kaepernick. Could he get a fresh start with the Jets and Morton? http://www.nj.com/jets/index.ssf/2017/01/will_john_morton_push_jets_to_acquire_colin_kaeper.html#incart_river_mobileshort_index Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fibonacci Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 Considering Woody's ties to Republican Party, I say there is zero chance Kap will be pursued by Jets. No f'ing way. And I have to add this as well. Even if it is my father disrespecting his country's flag, I would lose all my respect for him. No to Kap for football reasons and non-football reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 In before the lock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 The NFL is a business and the only way Im ok with signing Kaepernick is that in his contract he must stand and respect the National Anthem and the American flag and not protest under any circumstances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Jets fan Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 He sucks and he is an ass hole. Better chance he is out of football next year then has a starting job Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAR I Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 3 minutes ago, Fibonacci said: Considering Woody's ties to Republican Party, I say there is zero chance Kap will be pursued by Jets. No f'ing way. And I have to add this as well. Even if it is my father disrespecting his country's flag, I would lose all my respect for him. No to Kap for football reasons and non-football reasons. +1 Hear hear. SAR I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 Man I hope not. Pass on Kap. If for no other reason than he is a terrible QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Blast Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 I despise Kaepernick's political stance. But he is within his rights as an American to take that stance (though I cringe). The Jets are not good enough to say no to players who do not have the ideologies that Woody would like. We need help wherever we can get it. That said, I have very little faith in Kaepernick's QB skills, and for that reason, I don't want to see him a Jet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lego My Lageman Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 aaaaand no Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 2 minutes ago, Joe Jets fan said: He sucks and he is an ass hole. Better chance he is out of football next year then has a starting job Says it all. Well put. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flushing Roots Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 3 minutes ago, Maxman said: Man I hope not. Pass on Kap. If for no other reason than he is a terrible QB. Terrible quarterback and an a-hole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 I would be ok with it if his name was Sam Darnold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UntouchableCrew Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 I'm not a fan of his politics but that's not a reason not to sign a guy, particularly when there are gun toting wife beaters on every NFL roster. Better question is whether he's worth it at QB. I'd lean toward no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brown Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 If Kap were Tom Brady Part Deux I would have him here.. He simply is not!! So no way do I want him on the team. Side note....... the NFL has made a huge mistake by focusing on "social issues" as part of their marketing and hence they opened the door to Kap and whether you are for him or against his stand, we only know about it because the NFL brought this in house. Think you go to movies all the time. Do you know if the actors in the main are child molesters, wife or partner abusers or perverts and so on?. No you don't.. In the main you have no idea unless the actor wants to use such salacious activities as a part of an attempt to gain notoriety. The NFL has lost its way in its ever mindless greed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYJ37/12 Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 25 minutes ago, Fibonacci said: Considering Woody's ties to Republican Party, I say there is zero chance Kap will be pursued by Jets. No f'ing way. And I have to add this as well. Even if it is my father disrespecting his country's flag, I would lose all my respect for him. No to Kap for football reasons and non-football reasons. Bingo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 27 minutes ago, Fibonacci said: Considering Woody's ties to Republican Party, I say there is zero chance Kap will be pursued by Jets. No f'ing way. And I have to add this as well. Even if it is my father disrespecting his country's flag, I would lose all my respect for him. No to Kap for football reasons and non-football reasons. Woody's too busy learning the best way to sell PSL's to Manchester United fans to care about this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupz27 Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 29 minutes ago, Fibonacci said: Considering Woody's ties to Republican Party, I say there is zero chance Kap will be pursued by Jets. No f'ing way. And I have to add this as well. Even if it is my father disrespecting his country's flag, I would lose all my respect for him. No to Kap for football reasons and non-football reasons. Just pin this post to any Kaep speculation, this is never happening for political reasons so we should never waste our time discussing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doggin94it Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 Kaepernick is actually EXACTLY the type of QB the Jets should be aiming for this offseason - a high-upside, low floor play who won't come at too significant a short- or long-term cost. You want a boom or bust vet, who will either hit it big enough to solve the Jets' QB problems long-term at a reasonable rate, or bust hard enough to give the Jets a high pick in a much better 2018 QB class. If Kaep's that guy, sign me up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogglez Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 On the field he's a one-read, inaccurate QB, with a whipping, slow, horrendous, throwing motion, who is no longer effective on the ground because teams have figured out the read-option. Off the field he's a huge lightning rod who might as well be the "Anti-Tebow" in how he's viewed and belongs nowhere near the New York media market. Yeah, I'll pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRy56 Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 He stinks. No way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 Fact of the matter the Jets need a QB at this point and time in my life I don't give a damn who it is as long as they come here and make this organization successful again,im sick and tired of losing and being the laughing stock of the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peebag Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 Signing him would not be improving the team. Pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJ Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 Calling Kap an A_hole is an insult to A-holes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 just say no to kap. he's just not that good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 *kneels* in protest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 Just now, Beerfish said: *kneels* in protest If I was the 49'ers owner I would have fined him a game check every time he kneeled.. But then the 49'ers are in San Francisco soooo... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointman Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 I mean, we can get him if we want, but what good would he be holding Glennon's clipboard? UknowwhatImsayin!?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 1 hour ago, Fibonacci said: Considering Woody's ties to Republican Party, I say there is zero chance Kap will be pursued by Jets. No f'ing way. And I have to add this as well. Even if it is my father disrespecting his country's flag, I would lose all my respect for him. No to Kap for football reasons and non-football reasons. I just don't want him because he's bad at football. Is it okay to leave it at that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 Morton has ties to a bunch of guys. So? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 I don't want him because I'm not a fan of his game. But he's had some success so if they do bring him in I wouldn't be upset. And lol at the political reasons for disliking him in this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 Considering that most owners are likely relatively conservative because that is what most billionaires tend to be, Woody may be perhaps the most political conservative. He is a member of the Trump Administration. It would be an enormous personal and political embarrassment to him and Trump for his team to take Kaepernick.... unless his contract basically paid him to renounce his stance, see the light, and pay for him every game that he pledges and plays. And that is only if we think his compensation is fair and we think he would be good. I would make Glennon, Hoyer, McCown and Taylor (if available) aggressively fair offers based on who they are. First one to sign, gets the contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAR I Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 1 hour ago, Jetsfan80 said: Woody's too busy learning the best way to sell PSL's to Manchester United fans to care about this. Not only does Manchester United need PSL's, they need to take a lesson in age discrimination: Based on information from the start of this season, the cheapest United season ticket for an adult aged between 21 and 64 is priced at £532 while the most expensive comes in at £950. Under 16s can buy season tickets for £190 and the most expensive over 65 ticket is £380. SAR I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King P Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 As a buy low option, I'll take him. He wasn't terrible but he wasn't great. Still as a stopgap, he's better than any other option we have currently. Plus I'm in support of Kaep and his stance, so that's not a problem with me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetophile Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 Kaepernick will always be a flashpoint in either direction. I had a soft spot for him initially because he's an adoptee like yours truly, so I admit previous bias there. I get his views, and I understand it and deeply respect where it's coming from, but that comes with a disclaimer. He has the right to say what he wants, but I'm sorry, if you had a family member who willingly signed up to potentially lose their life for your theoretical right to say what you want, see ya, do not want. I am fiercely pro-military, and more than a little protective. Everyone who knows me knows that. Every time that I see an old veteran with a baseball hat on, I thank them for their service. I buy poppies. I've gifted an anonymous lunch or five in diners and restaurants when I see people in uniform. I send care packages overseas during the Holidays, because for the imaginary idea of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, I'm thankful, blemishes and lies and garbage combined. I don't wear blinders, but soldiers and vets should not be abandoned. I use God Bless America as a term of art, because I'm a borderline atheist - and there a ton of atheists in the military, which takes a lot of balls - but are no atheists in foxholes as the saying goes. That's what keeps me borderline. Minority treatment in the military was horrendous going back to well before the Civil War, but it doesn't take away from their bravery. There is a lot WRONG with the military, sh!t that seriously needs to change (suicide rates, mental illness and homelessness for starters). The resources for vets is atrocious and embarrassing. There are also so many things wrong with our country, too, and there has been from the very beginning, but it is what it is. Love it or leave it is the easy cheap reaction, but sometimes it's on the tip of my tongue. The po-po situation has been historically deplorable, too, but breaking sh!t and harming businesses that serve where you live and sniping police officers to death, not the answer. What was this about again? No to Colin Kaepernick. Let anyone even attempt to call me a racist, you won't win. I have black friends and my name is Jenel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetdawgg Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 Sign him. Most people that oppose his peaceful protest have never served in the US Military. Many veterans including myself put our lives on the line so he can exercise his rights as an American. The Jets need football players. No doubt that Kaepernick makes the Jets a better team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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