ZachEY Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 On 2/9/2017 at 1:23 PM, UnitedWhofans said: That's another problem. People are judging the Jets QB situation without realizing that there is such a thing as FREE AGENCY Everyone's heard of free agency. The problem is that unless you think Glennon is the answer, nothing good can happen to our QB situation in FREE AGENCY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 On 2/9/2017 at 1:30 PM, RutgersJetFan said: And the one thing we can count on is that the 19-year-old internet troll will still lecture us on how things were in 1996. Wait... is UnitedWhoFans 19? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lot K Tailgaters Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 The Jets have a tendency to have a 4-12 season followed by a spending spree and an 8-8 season where we think things are headed in the right direction only to end up at 4-12 again. This year I'm hoping we get young guys through the draft and plug some holes in free agency but don't go overboard. If we go 7-9, don't play games where the fans are leaving by halftime or the third quarter, and have some young talent I will be satisfied. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 2 hours ago, Maxman said: Good thing they never quit on Todd. Makes the chances for next season so much better. "Todd." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 4 hours ago, Gastineau Lives said: End thread and ban, please. Can't build a wall around this level of content generation, homey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bocajetfan Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 26 minutes ago, T0mShane said: "Todd." Richard Todd? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 1 hour ago, T0mShane said: Can't build a wall around this level of content generation, homey. Can somebody appoint this guy as the ambassador to something? I don't give a **** where he goes, but he can't stay here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 1 hour ago, Gastineau Lives said: Can somebody appoint this guy as the ambassador to something? I don't give a **** where he goes, but he can't stay here. Ambassador to Realtalk Junction, baby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAR I Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 4 pages and no one has looked at the schedule. Will they ever learn? HOME: Atlanta Falcons Carolina Panthers Kansas City Chiefs San Diego Chargers Jacksonville Jaguars New England Patriots Miami Dolphins Buffalo Bills AWAY: Oakland Raiders New Orleans Saints Tampa Bay Bucs Denver Broncos Cleveland Browns New England Patriots Miami Dolphins Buffalo Bills So where do we begin. Hmm. 5 games against the last 4 Super Bowl opponents including both Champions on the road. 7 games against 2016 playoff teams. 11 games against teams with bonafide franchise quarterbacks at the very moment our secondary is in shambles. Hey, but we have 2 games against the Bills and 1 game against the Browns. 2-14 seems right to me. SAR I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRONX DUDE Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 Quote Are the Jets going to be worse than last year? SURE THAT'S THE PLAN!!!!!! 1-15 IN 2017 2018 NEW QB NEW GM NEW COACH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 This team will be worse than last year and should be. Could they be better than last year if they wanted to waste another year?- probably. But they shouldn't. I'm not suggesting purposely losing for draft position, but they need to clean house. What I'm saying is play all of the youth, cut anyone over 30. W's and L's shouldn't be the priority this year...it should be getting experience and evaluating young talent. This is what they should have done two years ago, but here we are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 9 hours ago, BRONX DUDE said: SURE THAT'S THE PLAN!!!!!! 1-15 IN 2017 2018 NEW QB NEW GM NEW COACH This is actually the problem with this organization...I agree this is going to happen..but right now we have a coach in place that knows his job is on the line (or that he's getting fired regardless of what he does) and is going to do everything he can to win (to either keep this job or get a new one) And that means playing over-the-hill vets instead of evaluating young players. So now we'll have to wait another year until we see a legitimate rebuild...Basically 3 years wasted with Mac/Bowles and we'll start all over again. Disgraceful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 9 hours ago, SAR I said: 4 pages and no one has looked at the schedule. Will they ever learn? HOME: Atlanta Falcons Carolina Panthers Kansas City Chiefs San Diego Chargers Jacksonville Jaguars New England Patriots Miami Dolphins Buffalo Bills AWAY: Oakland Raiders New Orleans Saints Tampa Bay Bucs Denver Broncos Cleveland Browns New England Patriots Miami Dolphins Buffalo Bills So where do we begin. Hmm. 5 games against the last 4 Super Bowl opponents including both Champions on the road. 7 games against 2016 playoff teams. 11 games against teams with bonafide franchise quarterbacks at the very moment our secondary is in shambles. Hey, but we have 2 games against the Bills and 1 game against the Browns. 2-14 seems right to me. SAR I It's gonna be better than 2-14, because we're going to go into FA and bring in an expensive stop-gap QB who will help us back to about 6 wins. Which, will obviously be much worse than finishing 2-14. But, I'm certain we'll get some threads about how we improved from 5-11 to 6-10. So, that'll be fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munchmemory Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 4-12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JETdawg1389 Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 We are going to be terrible this year. Looking at our schedule, we are going 0-16 or at best 3-13. Unless something amazing happens at QB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thadude Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 If we go petty/Hack at qb yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdeacon Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 Unless Hack turns out to be the savior every jet fans needs to recognize that this year needs to be a total rebuild for the future savior, Sam Darnold. Address fixing the offensive line i.e center and left tackle, the te position, rookie rb and the secondary. Ignore the qb position entirely. Start all of the young kids to get seasoning. win a total of 1 game. Pray that sucking for Sam is the right choice. And if Hack turns out to be the guy, then that is awesome. We addressed weaknesses on the roster while not wasting resources on a bum qb and are a year early in a full rebuild with the most important piece in place. Its a win win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thadude Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 9 hours ago, SAR I said: 4 pages and no one has looked at the schedule. Will they ever learn? HOME: Atlanta Falcons Carolina Panthers Kansas City Chiefs San Diego Chargers Jacksonville Jaguars New England Patriots Miami Dolphins Buffalo Bills AWAY: Oakland Raiders New Orleans Saints Tampa Bay Bucs Denver Broncos Cleveland Browns New England Patriots Miami Dolphins Buffalo Bills So where do we begin. Hmm. 5 games against the last 4 Super Bowl opponents including both Champions on the road. 7 games against 2016 playoff teams. 11 games against teams with bonafide franchise quarterbacks at the very moment our secondary is in shambles. Hey, but we have 2 games against the Bills and 1 game against the Browns. 2-14 seems right to me. SAR I Played a similar schedule in 2013, the people who knew everything and the media all predicted us to go 0-16 and win the Clowney-bowl We went 8-8 - with Geno Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thadude Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 4 minutes ago, jdeacon said: Unless Hack turns out to be the savior every jet fans needs to recognize that this year needs to be a total rebuild for the future savior, Sam Darnold. Address fixing the offensive line i.e center and left tackle, the te position, rookie rb and the secondary. Ignore the qb position entirely. Start all of the young kids to get seasoning. win a total of 1 game. Pray that sucking for Sam is the right choice. And if Hack turns out to be the guy, then that is awesome. We addressed weaknesses on the roster while not wasting resources on a bum qb and are a year early in a full rebuild with the most important piece in place. Its a win win. Mac is not gambling his career on Hack We are signing a veteran QB I just hope it's Glennon or Taylor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdeacon Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 Just now, thadude said: Mac is not gambling his career on Hack We are signing a veteran QB I just hope it's Glennon or Taylor This is were Woody needs to turn into a competent owner and give Mac the time to actually rebuild the team. He needs to recognize that for the next two years rebuilding while being competitive is the worst decision for this franchise. The FO needs a few years of freedom without pressure of meaningless wins to build a contender. Brining in Glennon or Taylor would be a typical jets move. We win 7-9 games annually, never good, never terrible. Stuck in mediocrity for another 4-5 years and it starts all over again, screw that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTL Jet Fan Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 18 minutes ago, jdeacon said: This is were Woody needs to turn into a competent owner and give Mac the time to actually rebuild the team. He needs to recognize that for the next two years rebuilding while being competitive is the worst decision for this franchise. The FO needs a few years of freedom without pressure of meaningless wins to build a contender. Brining in Glennon or Taylor would be a typical jets move. We win 7-9 games annually, never good, never terrible. Stuck in mediocrity for another 4-5 years and it starts all over again, screw that. I don't see an owner Like Woody saying ok let's start the young guys (QB's) and see what happens. I agree if we keep going 7-9 8-8 we will be stuck in mediocrity for years, possibly. The problem is teams don't think that way before the season starts, they want to be competitive and win it's the nature of the business. If injuries happen or they have one win by week 10 then I can see it. We have a tough schedule so we may be picking high again. Let's see what FA brings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UntouchableCrew Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 Depends who we sign at QB. I'd bet we still finish with 4-6 wins, but teams with less talent than the Jets have turned it around and won more quickly... Although I still think it would be more beneficial to just suck... The Jets have been alternating between 10-6 and 4-12 for Woody's entire tenure. It hasn't worked. We need a real franchise QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 16 hours ago, jetophile said: You weren't born yet? Count your blessings. You didn't have to resort to something less painful, like, oh, I dunno, rubbing sandpaper all over your own face every Sunday. No I was long born believe me I just was not a Jets fan at that time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freemanm Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 On February 9, 2017 at 1:24 PM, Larz said: the kotite teams were overmatched talent wise, bowles team flat out quit the quitting is a much bigger sin to me. they need to win me back with a smart off season and NFL effort No, Kotite actually sucked as a head coach. Parcells came in '97 and won nine games with pretty much the same team that went 1-15 the year before under Kotite. I do agree with you on the quitting part. Inexcusable. Part of it was, however, that the defense got disheartened by all of Fitz's pics and three and outs. The defense kept us in the game against Kansas City, and through much of it against Arizona, and all Fitz and Co. Could manage was three points in each game? As I said, giving up is inexcusable, but I can see how the defense got a bit disheartened after a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted February 13, 2017 Author Share Posted February 13, 2017 12 hours ago, SAR I said: 4 pages and no one has looked at the schedule. Will they ever learn? HOME: Atlanta Falcons Carolina Panthers Kansas City Chiefs San Diego Chargers Jacksonville Jaguars New England Patriots Miami Dolphins Buffalo Bills AWAY: Oakland Raiders New Orleans Saints Tampa Bay Bucs Denver Broncos Cleveland Browns New England Patriots Miami Dolphins Buffalo Bills SAR I Too early to bring the schedule into it. For example, Atlanta just had a significant collapse. Will that have an effect on them next year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 5 minutes ago, UnitedWhofans said: Too early to bring the schedule into it. For example, Atlanta just had a significant collapse. Will that have an effect on them next year? Or that both coordinators just left? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted February 13, 2017 Author Share Posted February 13, 2017 Just now, section314 said: Or that both coordinators just left? That too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 1 hour ago, FTL Jet Fan said: I don't see an owner Like Woody saying ok let's start the young guys (QB's) and see what happens. I agree if we keep going 7-9 8-8 we will be stuck in mediocrity for years, possibly. The problem is teams don't think that way before the season starts, they want to be competitive and win it's the nature of the business. If injuries happen or they have one win by week 10 then I can see it. We have a tough schedule so we may be picking high again. Let's see what FA brings. I kind of think that's what he is saying by the fact that Bowles fired Gailey and Patullo so quickly. It seems obvious they were not willing to work with the young guys and speed up their progress. If I'm correct, this is a positive, one of the few in Woody's sordid tenure here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 the last time we had back to back seasons below .500 was 1995 and 1996. I expect we will better, how much I don't know but last year was much worse than our record indicated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PepPep Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 On 2/9/2017 at 1:13 PM, UnitedWhofans said: A lot of people are predicting gloom and doom for 2017. Which to some extent I can't really understand. Yes the Jets don't have a QB. But they didn't this year and won 5 games. It seems that a lot of people are underselling the Jets young talent which is interesting because we saw them play for 16 games. So the question is are the Jets going to be worse this year than last year? And if so, why? BTW, I'm not saying the Jets are going to the playoffs next year I all depends on what Macc does in FA and the draft. Plain and simple. How can we predict what the Jets record will be this year if we don,t know what the roster is going to look like? Just saying. We can assume Macc will fill in some holes via FA, we can assume he will draft SOME top tier talent (high pick in draft), we can assume he will bring back SOME of the FA Jets, and we can assume some of the top drafted talent from last year will improve (although not guaranteed). But will there be trades? Who will stay? Who will go? Will the Jets add draft picks? Will they give up draft picks via trade? So in other words, until after FA and the draft, I really can't tell you. The schedule looks a bit easier, but not by much. So who knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAR I Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 1 hour ago, UnitedWhofans said: Too early to bring the schedule into it. For example, Atlanta just had a significant collapse. Will that have an effect on them next year? We say that every year, but in the end it's still a great barometer. If Atlanta falls back then Jacksonville emerges, no different than everyone thinking we'd sweep Miami, split with the Bills, and get crushed by the Ravens this season. There's always a tradeoff here or there but at the 16 game view I find it always works out. The schedule is very hard, just look at the quarterbacks we have to face with such a lame secondary. Going to be hideous. SAR I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAR I Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 1 hour ago, section314 said: Or that both coordinators just left? Ryan Tannehill and Josh McCown ate our secondary for lunch; you're saying that league MVP Matt Ryan won't? SAR I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted February 13, 2017 Author Share Posted February 13, 2017 8 minutes ago, SAR I said: Ryan Tannehill and Josh McCown ate our secondary for lunch; you're saying that league MVP Matt Ryan won't? SAR I When are we facing him? Are we going to face him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 9 minutes ago, SAR I said: Ryan Tannehill and Josh McCown ate our secondary for lunch; you're saying that league MVP Matt Ryan won't? SAR I Not at all....was just commenting on WhoFans point about the Falcons maybe having a reverse Super Bowl hangover, plus having to break in two new coordinators at the same time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W. Namath Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 If the jets have a long term vison in mind, they will be worse then last year and end up with 2-3 wins. If they go short sighted like they always do, they can scrap together 6 or 7 wins and be forever mediocre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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