Integrity28 Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 Mike Mayock's 2017 NFL Draft position rankings By Mike Mayock NFL Media draft analyst Published: Feb. 14, 2017 at 11:00 a.m. Updated: Feb. 14, 2017 at 01:36 p.m. 0 Likes | 0 Comments With the NFL Scouting Combine beginning in two weeks, Mike Mayock unveils the first of his position-by-position rankings for the 2017 NFL Draft. Quarterback 1. DeShone Kizer, Notre Dame 2. Deshaun Watson, Clemson 3. Mitch Trubisky, North Carolina 4. Patrick Mahomes II, Texas Tech 5. Davis Webb, California Running Back 1. Dalvin Cook, Florida State 2. Leonard Fournette, LSU 3. Christian McCaffrey, Stanford 4. Alvin Kamara, Tennessee 5. Joe Mixon, Oklahoma Wide receiver 1. Corey Davis, Western Michigan 2. Mike Williams, Clemson 3. John Ross, Washington 4. Cooper Kupp, Eastern Washington 5. Zay Jones, East Carolina Tight end 1. O.J. Howard, Alabama 2. David Njoku, Miami 3. Evan Engram, Ole Miss 4. Jake Butt, Michigan 5. Gerald Everett, South Alabama Offensive tackle 1. Ryan Ramczyk, Wisconsin 2. Garett Bolles, Utah 3. Antonio Garcia, Troy 4. Roderick Johnson, Florida State T-5. Taylor Moton, Western Michigan T-5. Jermaine Eluemunor, Texas A&M Interior OL 1. Forrest Lamp, Western Kentucky 2. Cam Robinson, Alabama 3. Dan Feeney, Indiana 4. Ethan Pocic, LSU 5. Dion Dawkins, Temple Interior DL 1. Jonathan Allen, Alabama 2. Caleb Brantley, Florida 3. Malik McDowell, Michigan State 4. Larry Ogunjobi, Charlotte 5. Chris Wormley, Michigan Edge rusher 1. Myles Garrett, Texas A&M 2. Tim Williams, Alabama 3. Derek Barnett, Tennessee 4. Solomon Thomas, Stanford 5. Takkarist McKinley, UCLA Linebacker 1. Reuben Foster, Alabama 2. Haason Reddick, Temple 3. Zach Cunningham, Vanderbilt 4. Jarrad Davis, Florida 5. Alex Anzalone, Florida Cornerback 1. Sidney Jones, Washington 2. Marshon Lattimore, Ohio State 3. Marlon Humphrey, Alabama 4. Teez Tabor, Florida 5. Tre'Davious White, LSU Safety 1. Malik Hooker, Ohio State 2. Jamal Adams, LSU 3. Jabrill Peppers, Michigan 4. Budda Baker, Washington 5. Obi Melifonwu, Connecticut Special exceptions Note: This category is for players who are not ranked in the top 5 at their position but have special value elsewhere (special teams, for example). 1. Adoree' Jackson, USC 2. Curtis Samuel, Ohio State 3. Chidobe Awuzie, Colorado 4. Desmond King, Iowa 5. Adam Shaheen, Ashland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted February 14, 2017 Author Share Posted February 14, 2017 1 minute ago, Integrity28 said: Quarterback 1. DeShone Kizer, Notre Dame 2. Deshaun Watson, Clemson 3. Mitch Trubisky, North Carolina 4. Patrick Mahomes II, Texas Tech 5. Davis Webb, California Running Back 1. Dalvin Cook, Florida State 2. Leonard Fournette, LSU 3. Christian McCaffrey, Stanford 4. Alvin Kamara, Tennessee 5. Joe Mixon, Oklahoma Wide receiver 1. Corey Davis, Western Michigan 2. Mike Williams, Clemson 3. John Ross, Washington 4. Cooper Kupp, Eastern Washington 5. Zay Jones, East Carolina His top guys at each of these positions buck the trends of who most analysts (not experts) rank 1, 2 and 3. Anyway... this QB class is so underwhelming. We're going defense! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 this stuff is just so hard to gage. imo it looks like the jets won't be using a very high draft pick on a qb this draft. they'll probably go bpa for the first 3 rounds and then go by need the rest of the way. maybe n. peterman will be drafted by the jets yet. i wonder if there's any way to gage how these draft guru's stack up against reality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 I assume some people are up in arms about Cam Robinson being listed as an interior lineman and not even at the top. I was surprised not to see Samuel there, but then I saw him in the wild card list. I really like the idea of a Samuel type guy, someone to use the way I would have used Harvin. Maybe 5 carries a game out of the backfield, but useful as a WR or to have go in motion and empty the backfield. Then again maybe I am just biased because Brooklyn. Go Dutchmen! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SickJetFan Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 Corey Davis didn't have to play against any of his top 5 CB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge4Tide Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 So much for the ridiculous "Tim Williams is not a 1st rounder narrative" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 He's sandbagging fournette, he will be #1 eventually. They make them to change them 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 Just now, Sarge4Tide said: So much for the ridiculous "Tim Williams is not a 1st rounder narrative" I wouldn't even have him on my board. Alabama is afraid to play him on run downs because he gets pushed around like the guy in front of crusher at the brunch buffet when the bacon is running out 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotcheryifyouCan Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 little surprised by his cb rankings. agree with him on cook over fornuette. mike williams is the #1 wr imo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinstar Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 I don't understand this ratings at all . Trubisky has a higher grade than both Watson and Kizer, yet both are ranked ahead of him . I don't like Cam Robinson as a LT, but I think he would make a fine RT. As an OG, he's got to be the top ranked guy with his core strength . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 Kizer may look best on paper and is a, has all the tools, type and the system etc, all the little factors that make up the player, but that ****er would scare the sh*t out of me. None are a sure thing but no way I'm taking him before Watson and Trubisky, whom I agree have their own issues. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTownsell1 Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 Mayock loves being contrarian. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 15 minutes ago, Tinstar said: I don't understand this ratings at all . Trubisky has a higher grade than both Watson and Kizer, yet both are ranked ahead of him . I don't like Cam Robinson as a LT, but I think he would make a fine RT. As an OG, he's got to be the top ranked guy with his core strength . Think the rankings are influenced by what he thinks they will becom, not only what they were last season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 I have a funny feeling if we don't select a QB at 6 we are going with Jabril Peppers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SR24 Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 5 hours ago, Integrity28 said: His top guys at each of these positions buck the trends of who most analysts (not experts) rank 1, 2 and 3. Anyway... this QB class is so underwhelming. We're going defense! Thoughts on a Chad Kelly flyer in the 6th round? If we don't come to terms with a veteran through free agency Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted February 15, 2017 Author Share Posted February 15, 2017 16 minutes ago, SR24 said: Thoughts on a Chad Kelly flyer in the 6th round? If we don't come to terms with a veteran through free agency I'm not a NCAA guy, I cram draft reports every spring. Ask me again in a month Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SickJetFan Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 2 hours ago, Jet Nut said: Think the rankings are influenced by what he thinks they will becom, not only what they were last season And how has he done in that looking at his top 5 in every position going back to say 2013 draft? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinamite Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 23 minutes ago, SickJetFan said: And how has he done in that looking at his top 5 in every position going back to say 2013 draft? Here is his final list last year. note that it is not his initial one (precombine, like the one posted in this thread), but the list right before the draft. Quarterback 1. Carson Wentz, North Dakota State 2. Jared Goff, California 3. Paxton Lynch, Memphis 4. Connor Cook, Michigan State 5. Christian Hackenberg, Penn State Rise: Hackenberg (NR)Fall: Dak Prescott, Mississippi State (5) Running back 1. Ezekiel Elliott, Ohio State 2. Devontae Booker, Utah 3. Derrick Henry, Alabama 4. Kenneth Dixon, Louisiana Tech 5. Kenyan Drake, Alabama Rise: Booker (3)Fall: Henry (2) Wide receiver 1. Laquon Treadwell, Ole Miss 2. Corey Coleman, Baylor 3. Josh Doctson, TCU 4. Will Fuller, Notre Dame T-5. Sterling Shepard, Oklahoma T-5. Michael Thomas, Ohio State Rise: Coleman (3)Fall: Doctson (2) Tight end 1. Hunter Henry, Arkansas 2. Jerrell Adams, South Carolina 3. Austin Hooper, Stanford 4. Nick Vannett, Ohio State 5. Beau Sandland, Montana State Rise: Adams (3)Fall: Hooper (2) Offensive tackle 1. Laremy Tunsil, Ole Miss 2. Ronnie Stanley, Notre Dame 3. Jack Conklin, Michigan State 4. Taylor Decker, Ohio State 5. Germain Ifedi, Texas A&M Fall: Jason Spriggs, Indiana (T-5) Guard 1. Cody Whitehair, Kansas State 2. Joshua Garnett, Stanford 3. Christian Westerman, Arizona State 4. Connor McGovern, Missouri 5. Isaac Seumalo, Oregon State Center 1. Ryan Kelly, Alabama 2. Nick Martin, Notre Dame 3. Max Tuerk, USC 4. Evan Boehm, Missouri T-5. Graham Glasgow, Michigan T-5. Jack Allen, Michigan State Interior defensive line 1. DeForest Buckner, Oregon 2. Sheldon Rankins, Louisville 3. A'Shawn Robinson, Alabama 4. Robert Nkemdiche, Ole Miss 5. Jarran Reed, Alabama Rise: Robinson (4), Nkemdiche (NR)Fall: Reed (3), Andrew Billings, Baylor (5) Edge rusher 1. Joey Bosa, Ohio State 2. Leonard Floyd, Georgia 3. Shaq Lawson, Clemson 4. Emmanuel Ogbah, Oklahoma State 5. Kevin Dodd, Clemson Linebacker 1. Myles Jack, UCLA 2. Reggie Ragland, Alabama 3. Darron Lee, Ohio State 4. Su'a Cravens, USC 5. Deion Jones, LSU Rise: Jack (2), Ragland (4), Cravens (NR)Fall: Jaylon Smith, Notre Dame (1), Jatavis Brown, Akron (T-5) Cornerback 1. Jalen Ramsey, Florida State 2. Vernon Hargreaves, Florida 3. William Jackson III, Houston 4. Eli Apple, Ohio State 5. Cyrus Jones, Alabama Rise: Jones (NR)Fall: Artie Burns, Miami (Fla.) (5) Safeties 1. Karl Joseph, West Virginia 2. Vonn Bell, Ohio State 3. Keanu Neal, Florida 4. KeiVarae Russell, Notre Dame 5. Sean Davis, Maryland Rise: Neal (4), Davis (NR)Fall: Russell (3), Justin Simmons, Boston College (5) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 57 minutes ago, SickJetFan said: And how has he done in that looking at his top 5 in every position going back to say 2013 draft? Who cares? I didn't say he was right or wrong, I just gave my take on your question. I could care less who these so called experts like. It's a guideline, you can agree or disagree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obrien2Toon Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 8 hours ago, Sarge4Tide said: So much for the ridiculous "Tim Williams is not a 1st rounder narrative" I think some team is going to get burned real bad with him. Guy is just not a football player. Though I've seen a lot of mocks having him go to the Steelers, and that would be a perfect fit for him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obrien2Toon Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 My dream draft would be somehow to get get Cook and Howard. Probably not possible, but maybe trade back a little in first and move our 2nd up a little to middle-end of 1st Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SickJetFan Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 13 hours ago, Jet Nut said: Who cares? I didn't say he was right or wrong, I just gave my take on your question. I could care less who these so called experts like. It's a guideline, you can agree or disagree. I care FF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 13 hours ago, Obrien2Toon said: I think some team is going to get burned real bad with him. Guy is just not a football player. Though I've seen a lot of mocks having him go to the Steelers, and that would be a perfect fit for him Seriously doubt it. Steelers don't waste their time with guys who aren't football players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 CB is the hardest position to pin point. It's become an almost impossible position to meet expectations with. Given rules and style etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 Hopefully this draft is a cake walk: 1: Garrett DE/OLB or Watson QB 2: Kaaya QB or Engram TE 3: Garcia OT 5: Carraway or some other OLB prospect 6: RB Hopefully the only thing that complicates this is a Richardson trade for more picks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gas2No99 Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 NFL Draft 2017: Takeaways from Mike Mayock's position rankings Updated February 17, 2017 Posted February 17, 2017 By Matt Lombardo | For NJ Advance Media NFL Draft analyst Mike Mayock released his annual position rankings this week. Here is a look at how Mayock ranked the top prospects at key Eagles positions of need as Howie Roseman looks to bolster Jim Schwartz's defense and add talent around quarterback Carson Wentz. Quarterback 1. DeShone Kizer - Notre Dame 2. DeShaun Watson - Clemson 3. Mitch Trubisky - North Carolina 4. Patrick Mahomes II - Texas Tech 5. Davis Webb - Cal Jonathan Daniel | Getty Images The hype machine around this year's quarterback class has yet to be kicked into overdrive, which could happen following the NFL Scouting Combine. However, the consensus is that it will not be nearly as strong as even last year's class that produced the likes of Eagles quarterback Carson Wentz, Dallas Cowboys quarterback Dak Prescott and No. 1 overall pick Jared Goff with the Los Angeles Rams. Kizer could be the first quarterback off the board in April thanks to his big, statuesque frame in the pocket with a strong arm to make all the throws. the Notre Dame product passed for 2,925 yards with 26 touchdowns and nine interceptions last season. Meanwhile, Watson represents a dual-threat quarterback whose athleticism could have personnel departments salivating as the draft approaches. Watson passed for 4,593 yards with 41 touchdowns and 17 interceptions. Some analysts believe that Trubisky could be the No. 2 overall pick to the San Francisco 49ers after passing for 3,748 yards with 30 touchdowns, six interceptions and completing 68 percent of his passes. Even after choosing Christian Hackenberg in the second-round of last year's draft, the Jets could be in the market for one of this year's class's top prospects at the quarterback position. Richard Shiro | AP File Photo Running Back 1. Dalvin Cook - Florida State 2. Leonard Fournette - LSU 3. Christian McCaffrey - Stanford 4. Alvin Kamara - Tennessee 5. Joe Mixon - Oklahoma Mark Wallheiser AP Photo The Dallas Cowboys changed the way the running back position is viewed in the draft after adding Ezekiel Elliott with the No. 4 overall pick in 2016 and there could be two players at the position that would be worthy of being selected in the top of the first-round this year. Dalvin Cook has been linked to the Eagles in several mock drafts after averaging 6.1 yards per carry in his final collegiate season. Cook would immediately step into a role as a feature, three-down running back. Fournette averaged 6.2 yards per carry in his three collegiate seasons and similarly to Cook is viewed as a feature back in waiting at the next level. Christian McCaffrey is projected in most mocks as a late-first or early second-round pick and would serve as a complementary back for most teams while also adding versatility to any offense because of his ability to catch passes out of the backfield and contribute on special teams. One notable absence from Mayock's rankings is Texas back D'Onta Foreman who rushed for 2,028 yards last season. Foreman is a bruising, between the tackles runner but teams might be concerned about his 431 carries in three collegiate seasons. Ezra Shaw | Getty Images Wide Receiver Mike Mayock's receiver rankings: 1. Corey Davis - Western Michigan 2. Mike Williams - Clemson 3. John Ross - Washington 4. Cooper Kupp - Eastern Washington 5. Zay Jones - East Carolina Carlos Osorio Both Williams and Davis have been mocked to the Eagles by various draft analysts in either weeks and and represent the top prospects at the position in this year's draft class. Meanwhile, Kupp is projected to be a Round 2 or Round 3 selection and could help his draft stock rise with a strong performance at the NFL Combine after a 1,700 yard, 17 touchdown season. Richard Shiro | AP Photo Tight End 1. O.J. Howard - Alabama 2. David Njoku - Miami 3. Evan Engram - Ole Miss 4. Jake Butt - Michigan 5. Gerald Everett - South Alabama Kim Klement | USA TODAY Sports Howard is likely to be chosen in the first round as he was utilized at Alabama both as a tight end and at times similarly to a slot receiver. Last season, Howard averaged 13.2 yards per reception and could easily fit into the Giants' scheme and needs. Njoku is a 6-foot-4 red zone target who caught eight touchdowns for Miami last season and is a physical mismatch over the middle of the field. Meanwhile, Butt became one of the focal points of Michigan's offense last season, catching 46 passes for 546 yards and four touchdowns. However, Butt will likely need to show improvement as a blocker before teams invest too high of a pick in him. Gregory Shamus | Getty Images Guards/Centers 1. Forrest Lamp - Western Kentucky 2. Cam Robinson - Alabama 3. Dan Feeney - Indiana 4. Ethan Pocic - LSU 5. Dion Dawkins - Temple Rob Foldy | Getty Images The guard position appears to be a much deeper class on paper than the tackle class with several of the players making up Mayock's rankings and this position having experience playing on the outside. An offensive tackle at Alabama, Robinson has the size to play left tackle in the NFL but moving him to guard could provide a unique blend of size, strength and mean-streak to the interior of a team's offensive line, particularly in the running game. Meanwhile, Lamp should walk into a starting job and could be one of the first offensive lineman chosen in April. Mark J. Rebilas | USA TODAY Sports Offensive tackles 1. Ryan Ramczyk - Wisconsin 2. Garrett Bolles - Utah 3. Antonio Garcia - Troy 4. Roderick Johnson - Florida State t-5. Taylor Moton - Western Michigan t-5. Jermaine Eluemunor - Texas A&M Tim Heitman | USA TODAY Sports Unlike previous years, it would be surprising to see more than one or two offensive tackles chosen at the top of the first round in this year's draft. Ramczyk is the best of the bunch but injury concerns could sink his draft stock unless he impresses and proves to be fully healthy in Pro Days and at the NFL Scouting Combine. Meanwhile, there is a legitimate chance that the other players listed at this position group are likely candidates to move inside and play guard at the NFL level. Rob Kinnan | USA TODAY Sports Defensive tackles 1. Jonathan Allen - Alabama 2. Caleb Brantley - Florida 3. Malik McDowell - Michigan State 4. Larry Ogunjobi - Charlotte 4. Chris Wormley - Michigan John David Mercer | USA TODAY Sports Allen is a disruptive force along the interior of the defensive line who is adept at both stopping the run and providing a-gap pressure on the quarterback. If it weren't for Myles Garrett, Allen could be in the conversation was the first defensive player chosen in the draft. However, Allen could potentially slide outside and play defensive end in a 3-4 front. Mike Carter | USA TODAY Sports Defensive end/Edge rusher 1. Myles Garrett - Texas A&M 2. Tim Williams - Alabama 3. Derek Barnett - Tennessee 4. Solomon Thomas - Stanford 5. Takkarist McKinley - USC Eric Christian Smith | AP Photo Garrett is the consensus No. 1 overall pick at this stage after posting 31 sacks in his three seasons at Texas A&M. Meanwhile, Williams will be a nice consolation prize at the position after sacking the quarterback 9.0 times last season and taking up residence in opposing backfields with a whopping 16.0 tackles for loss. Streeter Lecka | Getty Images Linebacker 1. Reuben Foster - Alabama 2. Haason Reddick - Temple 3. Zach Cunningham - Vanderbilt 4. Jarrad Davis - Florida 5. Alex Anzalone - Florida John David Mercer | USA TODAY Sports Reuben Foster is the type of play-making outside linebacker is the consensus top player at the position and is a freelancing playmaker. Foster finished posted 115 tackles last season to go with 5.0 sacks and 13.0 tackles for loss. Meanwhile, Reddick saw his stock rise after an outstanding performance at the Senior Bowl that could vault him as high as a first-round prospect. Reddick finished last season with 65 tackles, 22.5 of which for loss. The Eagles are likely to go shopping for a playmaking linebacker in the draft to play alongside middle linebacker Jordan Hicks in Jim Schwartz's defense. Video via YouTube Cornerbacks 1. Sidney Jones - Washington 2. Marshon Lattimore - Ohio State 3. Marlon Humphrey - Alabama 4. Teez Tabor - Florida 5. Tre-Davious White - LSU Troy Wayrynen Cornerback is likely to be one of if not the top position that the Eagles target in this year's draft and there will likely be upwards of 12-13 prospects who grade out as first-round caliber talents. Jones is the most complete cornerback prospect in this year's class because of his fluid hips, cover-skills and recovery speed even when he gets beaten over the top. The Washington product finished with 41 tackles and two interceptions. Lattimore intercepted four passes for the Buckeyes this season and has incredible ball-skills in one-on-one coverage. Meanwhile, Humphrey was a pure-playmaker and ballhawk for the Crimson Tide, intercepting two passes with one returned for a touchdown. There is a strong case to be made that this is the most talented and deepest position overall in this year's draft class. Christopher Hanewinckel | USA TODAY Sports Safeties 1. Malik Hooker - Ohio State 2. Jamal Adams - LSU 3. Jabrill Peppers - Michigan 4. Budda Baker - Washington 5. Obi Melifonwu - Connecticut Jamie Sabau | Getty Images New Jersey native Jabrill Peppers might be the most electrifying prospect in this draft but teams' not knowing which position he fits best could hurt his stock, despite finishing last season 66 tackles, 13 tackles for loss, 3.0 sacks and one interception. Hooker, could be a top-20 selection with the versatility to play centerfield in coverage as well as up near the line of scrimmage in run support, the Ohio State product finished last season with 74 tackles, 5.5 tackles for loss, 0.5 sacks, seven interceptions with three returned for touchdowns. Melifonwu could see his stock rise dramatically with solid workouts and performances at the Combine after finishing last season with 118 tackles, four interceptions and three pass breakups. Gregory Shamus | Getty Images Matt Lombardo may be reached at MDLombardo@yahoo.com. Follow him on Twitter @MattLombardo975. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PepPep Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 On 2/15/2017 at 7:30 PM, SenorGato said: Hopefully this draft is a cake walk: 1: Garrett DE/OLB or Watson QB 2: Kaaya QB or Engram TE 3: Garcia OT 5: Carraway or some other OLB prospect 6: RB Hopefully the only thing that complicates this is a Richardson trade for more picks. 1. Garrett is easily the pick if he falls. But he won't. Fournette may not be there either. There's a high likelihood the Jets will end up taking either Hooker or Adams (whoever is still there- I am assuming Titans take a safety at 5) or the top CB (I doubt ANY will go top 5- my top CB is Sidney Jones) or D.Barnette (safe pick as edge rusher). All would be a BPA type pick as well (assuming Fournette, Garrett, Allen, one of Hooker/Adams, top QB are off the board). I DON'T think the Jets will take a QB at 6. They would REALLY have to fall in love with a guy and I just don't see that happening with this lot of QBs. 2. Again, I don't see the Jets taking a QB. It just does not make sense to take a guy like Kaaya when yo have Petty and Hack on the team and no real starter between the two. Jets will sign a vet and let the 3 guys compete-IMO. They will not carry 4 QBs again. A TE does not make sense to me either. Not THIS early. If the Jets go after a CB in the first, this is a good spot for an edge rusher (T.McKinley?). If they go for D.Barnett this could be a good spot for a CB. 3. I doubt Garcia will still be o the board. If he is, yes, take him. This is a good spot for a developmental OT with potential to play LT in the NFL. Davenport? Holden? maybe Wheeler? This is a weak draft at OT, but IMO, a lot of that has to do with the fact that there are simply not a lot of NFL ready OTs. There IS talent though. So if you can get a guy with great upside in the 3rd round and you desperately need talent at OT, this is a good time to do it. 4. (comp pick) You skipped this one, which is fair, but I think the Jets will get a comp pick. In that case, I would go TE and hopefully either Leggett or Sprinkle will be on the board. These guys are not elite athletes at the position and should be available somewhere around the 4th. But they are exactly what the Jets need- balanced TEs who can block and have soft hands. Potential 3 down TEs. Jets have Enunwa who has excelled as an offensive TE hybrid. The Jets don't nec. need a TE who is a receiving threat but can't block. And they don't need to spend a high draft pick on one. Pairing Leggett or Sprinkle with Enunwa will give opposing teams fits. These guys are big targets, they can block and they have soft hands. Combine that with a TE/WR that is a threat down the field along with RBs that can catch (Powell/Forte) and talent at the WR position and this passing offense becomes truly dynamic. 5. ILB, C, FS. These are the positions I would target. There should be some great S talent still available. With Gilchrists future with the Jets uncertain b/c of his cap hit. I would go with John Johnson out of BC or Josh Jones out of NC State. I like Middleton and adding another young safety would make a Gilchrist departure that much more palatable. 6. If he is there, I take C-Jon Toth. Mangold may still be a Jet in 2017 but he is clearly at the end of his career. W.Johnson will probably be re-signed. But that doesn't mean the Jets shouldn't draft talent at the position. Rd. 6 is not a major investment anyway and Toth is a bit of a tweener who may project to be a better G at the NFL level. Could end up out of the NFL in a year or two, could end up a starting C or G, could end up a versatile backup. Doesn't matter, this would help the Jets with depth on the O-line. 7. If he is there, Jerry Ugokwe-OT is my pick. Small school prospect that started football late. Total project with great upside. He's got NFL OT size, length and athleticism. But is nowhere near polished. This is what the 7th round is for. Again, bringing in future talent for the O-line. Low risk, high reward. 1. S.Jones- CB 2. T.McKinley- Pass Rusher 3. A.Garcia- OT 4. Sprinkle- TE 5. JJ- FS 6. Toth- C 7. Ugokwe- OT The Jets take 4 players on offense, 3 on defense. They address critical positions of need. I would expect S.Jones and McKinley to make an impact immediately. Garcia and Sprinkle could make an impact as well, depending on how fast they acclimate to the NFL, injuries, etc. JJ is a depth guy that could eventually turn into a starter. Toth and Ugokwe are developmental players you stash and let develop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 That is an ugly draft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjbuddy Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 Notes from Mayock's Conference Call, posted by WalterFootball.com: http://walterfootball.com/mayock2017.php If you missed the tweets regarding Mike Mayock's conference call Monday afternoon, here are some of the important things he had to say regarding the 2017 NFL Draft: "This is a great corner class. If you don't get one in the first round, you can come back and really help yourself." Sidney Jones compares favorably to Marcus Peters. "This is one of the best defensive drafts I've ever seen." A good edge rusher or cornerback could be obtained in the third round. Chad Kelly is a possible second-round pick if he didn't have character/injury concerns. Brad Kaaya is a long-term developmental prospect. Third round makes sense. Derek Barnett will go in the 10-22 range. Kansas State's Jordan Willis is one of the top edge rushers available after the first round. Jonathan Allen is one of the "two or three best players in the draft." The Browns should look at him as well as Myles Garrett at No. 1 overall. The wide receiver class is good, but not as deep as some of the defensive positions. John Ross is one of the top three receivers in the class, and a top-18 pick. With so much depth at cornerback, the Eagles have to look hard at one of the three first-round receivers. Colorado's Ahkello Witherspoon is a "GOOD player." Pat Mahomes could push for the first round, as he's picking up a lot of steam. "He's a gun-slinger. he's got an innate feel for the game." On Christian McCaffrey skipping the Sun Bowl: "I don't think it's going to ultimately cost him." More on McCaffrey: "He is a matchup cog. He's a chess piece. He's bigger and tougher than people think he is." "Malik Hooker as a center fielder is phenomenal." "I'm not bullish on the quarterbacks this year because I don't think any of them are ready on Day 1. ... I don't have any quarterbacks near the top 10. ... There are four first-round quarterbacks, but they all have holes in their game." Deshaun Watson is fascinating and doesn't shrink when the game is on the line, but he needs to make a big adjustment. If Haason Reddick tests well, he could be a second-round prospect, maybe late first. Cam Robinson is viewed as a guard. The tackle class is weak, and there's a major drop-off after Garett Bolles, Ryan Ramcyzk. A quarterback to the Jets at No. 6? "I would emphatically tell you no." "Leonard Fournette is a nice fit" for the Panthers. DeShone Kizer is the No. 1 quarterback because he has the highest ceiling. Compares to Philip Rivers. Jimmy Garoppolo and Mitch Trubisky have identical grades. If the Browns picked Myles Garrett/Jonathan Allen and then traded No. 12 for Jimmy Garoppolo, "I'd be stoked." "David Njoku is an absolute freak, and he's also tough enough to learn how to block ... This is a great tight end class." O.J. Howard is the top-ranked tight end in this class. Howard and Njoku come into play in the second half of Round 1. Mitch Trubisky is a starting quarterback, but not ready with 13 college starts. He has a quick release and big arm. There are five running backs with first-round grades: Leonard Fournette, Dalvin Cook, Alvin Kamara, Joe Mixon, Christian McCaffrey. Jarrad Davis is a second-round possibility. Not sure if Colorado quarterback Sefo Liufau is going to be drafted as a quarterback. Jamal Adams and Malik Hooker are "potential All-Pro safeties." The Patriots need another big weapon. Marshon Lattimore is expected to go in the top 10. Sidney Jones is a top-15 pick. The Falcons could address guard at No. 31. Forrest Lamp is an option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 So Mayock had Darron Lee 3rd overall amongst the LBers in 2016, behind Myles Jack and Reggie Ragland. And he had Deion Jones 5th. I know Jones is smaller than Lee, but I guess they underestimated how raw Lee would be at technique. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thadude Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 34 minutes ago, UnitedWhofans said: So Mayock had Darron Lee 3rd overall amongst the LBers in 2016, behind Myles Jack and Reggie Ragland. And he had Deion Jones 5th. I know Jones is smaller than Lee, but I guess they underestimated how raw Lee would be at technique. Tbh I just don't think we were picking in a great spot in 2016. Who is the great player we shoulda picked over Lee? I wanted Hunter Henry but no one else did and he slid to round 2. Paxton Lynch is a worse version of Kaepernick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 Just now, thadude said: Tbh I just don't think we were picking in a great spot in 2016. Who is the great player we shoulda picked over Lee? I wanted Hunter Henry but no one else did and he slid to round 2. Paxton Lynch is a worse version of Kaepernick Another question I have with Lee is why was he playing ILB instead of his college position WLB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thadude Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 2 minutes ago, UnitedWhofans said: Another question I have with Lee is why was he playing ILB instead of his college position WLB. Lee is Vilma. I think we are wasting him in a3-4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 (edited) 12 minutes ago, thadude said: Lee is Vilma. I think we are wasting him in a3-4 Corey Griffin has said that their base defense is a nickel Corey Griffin @CoreyGriffinNBC Jan 10 More Corey Griffin Retweeted Professor J The 4-3/3-4 thing is a false narrative. The #Jets base defense is nickle, which is also why they need an EDGE, not a 3rd DL. Edited February 28, 2017 by UnitedWhofans Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thadude Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 15 hours ago, UnitedWhofans said: Corey Griffin has said that their base defense is a nickel Corey Griffin @CoreyGriffinNBC Jan 10 More Corey Griffin Retweeted Professor J The 4-3/3-4 thing is a false narrative. The #Jets base defense is nickle, which is also why they need an EDGE, not a 3rd DL. I agree, we need an edge rusher badly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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