SR24 Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 East Rutherford= The Island Of Misfit Bears 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UntouchableCrew Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 Of all the potential veteran options this one is probably the worst. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadienJetsFan Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 Get on the Cutler train! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouPlay2Win Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 i don't see the downside , he'll be cheap , experienced veteran , have an open competition and take it from there ? also any word on when petty will be ready after his shoulder dislocation ?Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Walrus Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 7 minutes ago, Beerfish said: Get on the Cutler train! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LockeJET Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 Everyone forgets that we have a coach and possibly a GM on the hot seat.. They are going to try and win now... This is terrible for the Jets unless the owner says to rebuild this thing and I'll give you a few more years. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Walrus Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 Go with Petty #1 and Hack #2. If going to add a QB, make it Glennon cause he's still young enough to be long term. But I also agree with those concerned about committing long term to a QB who still hasn't proved it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 12 minutes ago, The Walrus said: = Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DetroitRed Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 No Thanks.So what is all the fuss if he is not even a FA?Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 3 hours ago, win4ever said: God No. Have we not learned anything? High interception guy who takes risks, with injury history and a well known locker room malcontent? What could go wrong? i don't exactly see where he's an interception machine. the other parts may be true but there's no doubt he is a decent qb when healthy. Passing * Selected to Pro Bowl, + First-Team All-Pro Share & more Modify & Share Table Embed this Table Get table as CSV (for Excel) Copy Link to Table to Clipboard About Sharing Tools Glossary Year Age Tm Pos No. G GS QBrec Cmp Att Cmp% Yds TD TD% Int Int% Lng Y/A AY/A Y/C Y/G Rate QBR Sk Yds NY/A ANY/A Sk% 4QC GWD AV 2006 23 DEN qb 6 5 5 2-3-0 81 137 59.1 1001 9 6.6 5 3.6 71 7.3 7.0 12.4 200.2 88.5 35.96 13 85 6.11 5.81 8.7 3 2007 24 DEN QB 6 16 16 7-9-0 297 467 63.6 3497 20 4.3 14 3.0 68 7.5 7.0 11.8 218.6 88.1 55.1 27 153 6.77 6.30 5.5 2 3 12 2008* 25 DEN QB 6 16 16 8-8-0 384 616 62.3 4526 25 4.1 18 2.9 93 7.3 6.8 11.8 282.9 86.0 67.09 11 69 7.11 6.61 1.8 3 4 15 2009 26 CHI QB 6 16 16 7-9-0 336 555 60.5 3666 27 4.9 26 4.7 71 6.6 5.5 10.9 229.1 76.8 41.34 35 204 5.87 4.80 5.9 2 4 10 2010 27 CHI QB 6 15 15 10-5-0 261 432 60.4 3274 23 5.3 16 3.7 89 7.6 7.0 12.5 218.3 86.3 43.91 52 352 6.04 5.50 10.7 4 4 12 2011 28 CHI QB 6 10 10 7-3-0 182 314 58.0 2319 13 4.1 7 2.2 56 7.4 7.2 12.7 231.9 85.7 57.75 23 159 6.41 6.25 6.8 1 1 7 2012 29 CHI QB 6 15 15 10-5-0 255 434 58.8 3033 19 4.4 14 3.2 60 7.0 6.4 11.9 202.2 81.3 48.5 38 250 5.90 5.37 8.1 1 1 11 2013 30 CHI QB 6 11 11 5-6-0 224 355 63.1 2621 19 5.4 12 3.4 67 7.4 6.9 11.7 238.3 89.2 67.07 19 132 6.66 6.23 5.1 3 3 9 2014 31 CHI QB 6 15 15 5-10-0 370 561 66.0 3812 28 5.0 18 3.2 74 6.8 6.3 10.3 254.1 88.6 52.77 38 223 5.99 5.57 6.3 1 1 11 2015 32 CHI QB 6 15 15 6-9-0 311 483 64.4 3659 21 4.3 11 2.3 87 7.6 7.4 11.8 243.9 92.3 60.67 29 150 6.85 6.71 5.7 4 4 12 2016 33 CHI qb 6 5 5 1-4-0 81 137 59.1 1059 4 2.9 5 3.6 54 7.7 6.7 13.1 211.8 78.1 33.1 17 104 6.20 5.26 11.0 2 Career 139 139 68-71-0 2782 4491 61.9 32467 208 4.6 146 3.3 93 7.2 6.7 11.7 233.6 85.7 302 1881 6.38 5.88 6.3 21 25 104 8 yrs CHI 102 102 51-51-0 2020 3271 61.8 23443 154 4.7 109 3.3 89 7.2 6.6 11.6 229.8 85.2 251 1574 6.21 5.69 7.1 16 18 74 3 yrs DEN 37 37 17-20-0 762 1220 62.5 9024 54 4.4 37 3.0 93 7.4 6.9 11.8 243.9 87.1 51 307 6.86 6.40 4.0 5 7 30 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurnleyJet Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 Sign this Douche! No let's not I was kidding really. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetscrazey Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 Maybe Cutler can eek out a wild card berth if he has a solid o-line and defense supporting him...neither of which are present on the Jets roster.... PASS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brown Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 6 hours ago, win4ever said: God No. Have we not learned anything? High interception guy who takes risks, with injury history and a well known locker room malcontent? What could go wrong? Some of the same folks who were saying Fitz had low risk and couldn't hurt the team are some of the same folks now advocating this silly move. Petty vs Hack before Cutler!!! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 4 hours ago, Beerfish said: = What a real owner and GM would be focused on. Stopgap in another year when the Brady Pats are intact is a waste of time. There is no point to CutlerHoyerRomoTaylor other than to fvkc up any chance at the above. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tuffhand Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 6 hours ago, UntouchableCrew said: Of all the potential veteran options this one is probably the worst. Without doubt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lambo Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 please tank. I promise it wont be hard let noodle arm Hack play and move on to the 2018 draft and get Darnold the gods owe us, the fans... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetscrazey Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 7 hours ago, LockeJET said: Everyone forgets that we have a coach and possibly a GM on the hot seat.. They are going to try and win now... This is terrible for the Jets unless the owner says to rebuild this thing and I'll give you a few more years. you unfortunately make a good point. This is the point where we need an owner with the guts to address the elephant in the room. It's in the best interest of the Jets not to sign mediocre veterans, and instead play their young talent. If it works out, great. If not, hopefully we get the top pick. However, this vision does not align with the incentives of Maccganan and Bowles given their contracts. Woody needs to step in and somehow rectify this approaching trainwreck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thadude Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 6 hours ago, DetroitRed said: Thanks. So what is all the fuss if he is not even a FA? Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app I don't get it. The people who know everything are suicidal over the remote possibility of Cutler but are at the same time enthusiastic over the garbage buffet of Hoyer/Petty/Hack 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thadude Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 2 hours ago, Bugg said: What a real owner and GM would be focused on. Stopgap in another year when the Brady Pats are intact is a waste of time. There is no point to CutlerHoyerRomoTaylor other than to fvkc up any chance at the above. You guys realize tanking is the most inexact science in sports We could go 1-15 next year with Putrid and Wackyberg and still miss out on Darnold because the 49ers, who are in even way worse shape than us and just hired John Lynch just cuz, go 0-16 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetscrazey Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 2 minutes ago, thadude said: You guys realize tanking is the most inexact science in sports We could go 1-15 next year with Putrid and Wackyberg and still miss out on Darnold because the 49ers, who are in even way worse shape than us and just hired John Lynch just cuz, go 0-16 I fail to see how it is less exact than Jay Cutler or every other sh*tty option out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetfan39 Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 6 hours ago, DetroitRed said: Thanks. So what is all the fuss if he is not even a FA? Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app because as jet fans if we don't have anything to complain about we will make something up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thadude Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 2 minutes ago, jetscrazey said: I fail to see how it is less exact than Jay Cutler or every other sh*tty option out there. Because the goal is to try to win Bryce Petty is a JAG and Hack doesn't even belong in the nfl As much as you guys hate Cutler he is way better than any QB we had recently- and I don't even want him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 8 hours ago, LockeJET said: Everyone forgets that we have a coach and possibly a GM on the hot seat.. They are going to try and win now... This is terrible for the Jets unless the owner says to rebuild this thing and I'll give you a few more years. Ordinarily I'd agree, since I do agree in principle, except neither has earned a few more years of mulligans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JETdawg1389 Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 I've been following the jets for 7 years now, this is shaping up to being the most depressing season yet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 Rumors now that Cutler is considering retirement, which makes no sense to me, since a number of posters have made clear that no person in history has ever turned down a chance to work for the Jets. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 Would not be the worst option or the best Cutler would give you a chance to be competitive but prone to mistakes also and his psyche is a question mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blocker Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 8 hours ago, Sperm Edwards said: Ordinarily I'd agree, since I do agree in principle, except neither has earned a few more years of mulligans. Yep. giving Bowles and Macc two or three years in order to incentivize them to tank, putting aside whether tanking is a good idea (I don't think so, but...), is really the tail wagging the dog. Guaranteeing them, even if they crap the bed over the next two to three years??? Ain't happening. Tanking in any event assumes your FO will make good use of the draft picks. I can't get on board assuming that they will. Based on picking Leo? That he had talent at 6 was a no brainer. But the rest of the picks the last two have been on average mediocre. Same for Bowles. I am not negative on him like some. But neither is he a proven success. Says here a guarantee is a very bad idea, and probably won't happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 40 minutes ago, Big Blocker said: Yep. giving Bowles and Macc two or three years in order to incentivize them to tank, putting aside whether tanking is a good idea (I don't think so, but...), is really the tail wagging the dog. Guaranteeing them, even if they crap the bed over the next two to three years??? Ain't happening. Tanking in any event assumes your FO will make good use of the draft picks. I can't get on board assuming that they will. Based on picking Leo? That he had talent at 6 was a no brainer. But the rest of the picks the last two have been on average mediocre. Same for Bowles. I am not negative on him like some. But neither is he a proven success. Says here a guarantee is a very bad idea, and probably won't happen. This is why those sh*tty coaches get extensions. The team wants them to know that they are supported and that they should put the best interests of the team first, so they extend them for 2-3 years. Then if they suck you can still fire them, you just have to pay them. There are different ways to suck. Fundamentally sound, but young and improving is okay at 6-10, but 8-8 with veterans going all out to win? No so much. Chaos in the lockerroom? Get to stepping and enjoy your 2 year severance package. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saul Goodman Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 10 hours ago, lambo said: please tank. I promise it wont be hard let noodle arm Hack play and move on to the 2018 draft and get Darnold the gods owe us, the fans... Hack doesn't have a noodle arm. In fact, his arm is on par with Cutler's, which is/was one of the strongest in the league 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PepPep Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 You don;t sign Hoyer b/c he is the best QB on the market, you sign Hoyer b/c he is cheap, he is a vet and he won't expect to start without a competition, giving Petty and Hack an opportunity to win the starting job. You WANT one of those two to earn the starting gig, you WANT to see what they can do on the field with #1 reps. You NEED to figure out if either of these guys are worth holding out hope for. This will, in part, determine your decision making RE: QBs in the 2018 draft. It will determine how you approach free agency in 2018. What you DON'T want is to invest long term for a lot of money in a FA QB who has failed on another team and will expect to start- Glennon, Cutler, Taylor, etc. Not only will this QB tie you up financially- preventing you from improving other aspects of the team via FA, but he will hinder the development of your young QBs and he will be set up to fail b/c this is not currently a team that ONLY needs a QB. This team has a number of holes that need addressing. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PepPep Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 35 minutes ago, Saul Goodman said: Hack doesn't have a noodle arm. In fact, his arm is on par with Cutler's, which is/was one of the strongest in the league I agree 100%. Anyone who discredits Hack as a bust or suggests he will be out of the league in 2 years or equates his abilities with the fact that he did not play this season or acts like he is not an NFL QB even though he IS in the NFL and was drafted in the first 3 rounds, without EVER seeing him play substantial NFL minutes...is simply not worth arguing with. Until further notice, Hack is the future of this team at the QB position. Anyone who doesn't like it can yell and pout about it but it won't change things- until further notice. They should just grow up and give the kid a chance. And they need to stop acting like they know more about young developmental players on the Jets than the Jet Brass- in particular the guy that scouted him, drafted him and has access to his coaches, trainers, etc. Hack could be a total bust. But until we actually see him play, we don't know what he will turn into. His intangibles and measurables scream Franchise QB. His inconsistency and weaknesses scream bust. We will see. But right now, in my opinion, the outlook is not nearly as bad as so many fans make it seem. Oh, and the assumption that Darnold is guaranteed to be some superstar QB and that we are somehow guaranteed to draft him if we tank is absolutely laughable. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers9 Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 I saw in one poll a high number of fans voting for Hack as our 2017 starter. Not nearly as many for Petty. I guess the unknown is more attractive than what we saw from Petty which to me was that he could be an NFL Qb but probably not at this point a starter, Positive stories about Hack apparently have influenced some of you and the hope that this guy is going to be a good player. But for 2017 I'd take a vet and Cutler over Hack. With good coaching he could be a marked improvement over what we had from the Qb position in 2016 which was mediocre. If the Jets can sign him to a favorable deal that is not too long term I'd have no objection. If they feel that Hack could be ready then get a cheaper option like a Hoyer who could start if Hack isn't ready in Sept. I personally do not have confidence that Hack is going to be our starter. If Mac gives him more chances than he deserves just to prove he was right drafting him then it could be a big problem. I'd go if available with TT as our long term Jets Qb and give him a good contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 1 hour ago, PepPep said: You don;t sign Hoyer b/c he is the best QB on the market, you sign Hoyer b/c he is cheap, he is a vet and he won't expect to start without a competition, giving Petty and Hack an opportunity to win the starting job. You WANT one of those two to earn the starting gig, you WANT to see what they can do on the field with #1 reps. You NEED to figure out if either of these guys are worth holding out hope for. This will, in part, determine your decision making RE: QBs in the 2018 draft. It will determine how you approach free agency in 2018. What you DON'T want is to invest long term for a lot of money in a FA QB who has failed on another team and will expect to start- Glennon, Cutler, Taylor, etc. Not only will this QB tie you up financially- preventing you from improving other aspects of the team via FA, but he will hinder the development of your young QBs and he will be set up to fail b/c this is not currently a team that ONLY needs a QB. This team has a number of holes that need addressing. Well said. I think you pretty much nailed it here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScarletKnight89 Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 This comes as no surprise. He's one of the most realistic options. The guy has talent, and is capable of having a big season. He's far from perfect. But he's a very realistic option for where Maac and Bowles are right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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