Bleedin Green Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 2 minutes ago, Gee Andrezzi said: He'll never be worse than Stephen hill. That's mathematically impossible O ye of little faith. Of course he can't be as big of a bust, simply given that you're talking UDFA vs second rounder, but when you fumble at like a 50% rate, you're a true contender for being that awful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JETSfan4life_1 Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 59 minutes ago, The Crusher said: Keep questioning. Adderall is a stimulant. enlighten me, does he gain an edge? why was he suspended? Yes it is a banned substance but why? It's a stimulant? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetsfansince7 Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 1 hour ago, Scoop24 said: The Daily News has learned that Jets wide receiver Jalin Marshall will be suspended for the first four games of the 2017 season for violating the NFL's policy on performance-enhancing drugs. Marshall tested positive for Adderall, according to sources. http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/jets/jets-wr-jalin-marshall-facing-ban-violating-nfl-drug-policy-article-1.2990561 Why not cut him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 The report reminded readers that many NFL players reportedly use Adderall as a cover-up for other drugs. That's because the NFL drug policy doesn't allow the league to say which drug caused a player to fail a test. Although he's not able to discuss specific cases, Adolpho Birch, NFL senior vice president of labor law and policy, said the league saw an uptick in positive amphetamine tests during the 2012 season. The test doesn't distinguish between Adderall and other amphetamines. The NFL would like to be able to publicly announce the causes of failed tests but hasn't gained that concession from the players association. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 Just now, jetsfansince7 said: Why not cut him? Why cut him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Mart Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 38 minutes ago, Fantasy Island said: I wish Bowles would take some adderall, maybe he would call better coverages. or you know players could execute or at least show up instead of being halfway to canton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gee Andrezzi Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 9 minutes ago, Bleedin Green said: O ye of little faith. Of course he can't be as big of a bust, simply given that you're talking UDFA vs second rounder, but when you fumble at like a 50% rate, you're a true contender for being that awful. Agreed but you have to make a catch to fumble...Stephen hill catching a ball was very much a rare sight and it always hit him square in the hands every time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetNation Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 By Glenn Naughton While the New York Jets and their fans are getting pumped up about the start of the NFL’s free agent signing period, it appears one of their receivers has been getting pumped up on PED’s. Manish Mehta of the New York Daily News is reporting that second-year receiver Jalin Marshall out of Ohio State will be facing a four-game ban to start the 2017 season for his use of Adderall, a drug that is often prescribed for Attention Deficit Disorder (ADD) but has been banned by the NFL. Sources: @NYJets WR Jalin Marshall facing four-game suspension for violating NFL's drug policy. More details: https://t.co/A4SO9Lp3M6 pic.twitter.com/zbMyV3abYZ — Manish Mehta (@MMehtaNYDN) March 7, 2017 While frustrating, the suspension will have little impact on the 2017 season as the Jets do have some young depth at the position while Marshall’s contributions last season were minimal at best. If nothing else, the suspension will allow the Jets to take a look at another player (or players) for the first four weeks of the season while Marshall awaits his return. Click here to read the full story... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRy56 Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 Adderall, really? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bealeb319 Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 He has potential. But I think with a young QB or a vet coming in, we need to provide him with some ready made NFL talent to throw the ball to right now. Robbie Anderson also has a chance. Enunwa showed some great potential last season...I think we should let our kids play this season and focus on the gaping holes rather than wasting money or draft picks on a position that could end up being great for us already. If the youngins don't pan out this year then worry about getting a star caliper receiverSent from my LG-D850 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thadude Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 I thought PEDs made you good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munchmemory Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 1 hour ago, Fantasy Island said: I wish Bowles would take some adderall, maybe he would call better coverages. RLLOL! Would definitely help with his concentration and focus (which is why Adderall is usually prescribed). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin L Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 28 minutes ago, JETSfan4life_1 said: enlighten me, does he gain an edge? why was he suspended? Yes it is a banned substance but why? It's a stimulant? It's an amphetamine that can allegedly increase concentration and reaction time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 24 minutes ago, JETSfan4life_1 said: enlighten me, does he gain an edge? why was he suspended? Yes it is a banned substance but why? It's a stimulant? It's used to treat ADHD. So maybe it was prescribed. Lot of adults are getting it. Would Give him an edge as far as staying awake and being focused but it also increases metabolism like any other stimulant. In most cases decreases appetite. So not really something that has an anabolic effect. Yet, if taken before workouts it would produce an effect similar to ephedrine So that could be it. He was suspended because its on "the list" . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupz27 Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 1 hour ago, CotcheryifyouCan said: devin smith this is your time to step up. also think we need one more receiver Guys forget about Devin Smith, look what Paul Richardson did this year in Seattle after being a 2nd round pick, and injured most of his first 2 seasons, Smith is very much an asset when healthy, and when the QB can throw it more then 20 yards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thadude Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 48 minutes ago, Gen X Jet said: Adderall? WTF? Why is this even banned in the first place? How else is he supposed to focus on Bowles's mumbling incoherent speeches? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupz27 Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 1 minute ago, The Crusher said: It's used to treat ADHD. So maybe it was prescribed. Lot of adults are getting it. Would Give him an edge as far as staying awake and being focused but it also increases metabolism like any other stimulant. In most cases decreases appetite. So not really something that has an anabolic effect. Yet, if taken before workouts it would produce an effect similar to ephedrine So that could be it. He was suspended because its on "the list" . If you take it before work outs you might have a heart attack, these guys use it for 2 reasons, to help focus, and go long stretches of focus to study the playbook, and watch film, and then the recreational use when out drinking, it is basically the same as Cocaine, but only have to take it once and get 4 hours instead of constantly using Cocaine every 30-40 minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reynolds1029 Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 I can't imagine you're not allowed to use it with a valid doctors prescription. I haven't read the story, but I'm assuming he didn't have a prescription for Aderall. Or at least didn't let the Jets or the league know he had a prescription from a Doctor for it. I could be wrong though. But it's also not a PED though. Pretty sure you can't suddenly gain 50lbs of muscle and run 10 miles a day from it. There is also tons of drugs the NFL bans that regardless of medical need or percription you can't use while playing football. Even if it's for recreational use players should'nt be suspended for using it, he isen't harming anybody using it. But thats a totally different topic to get into.. Sent from my SM-G930V using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 Just now, Lupz27 said: If you take it before work outs you might have a heart attack, these guys use it for 2 reasons, to help focus, and go long stretches of focus to study the playbook, and watch film, and then the recreational use when out drinking, it is basically the same as Cocaine, but only have to take it once and get 4 hours instead of constantly using Cocaine every 30-40 minutes. Thanks. That I didn't know. Playbook part makes most sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peebag Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 3 minutes ago, Reynolds1029 said: But it's also not a PED though. Pretty sure you can't suddenly gain 50lbs of muscle and run 10 miles a day from it. There is also tons of drugs the NFL bans that regardless of medical need or percription you can't use while playing football. Even if it's for recreational use players should'nt be suspended for using it, he isen't harming anybody using it. But thats a totally different topic to get into.. Sent from my SM-G930V using Tapatalk I believe someone posted that it masks other drugs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reynolds1029 Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 I believe someone posted that it masks other drugs. Never read anything on that. But I think most players use PEDs anyways. The competition is super intense in the league and people always find loopholes and workarounds. Sent from my SM-G930V using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brown Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 1 hour ago, CotcheryifyouCan said: devin smith this is your time to step up. also think we need one more receiver First thing I thought of as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinstar Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 I have a feeling he's done as a Jet. I could see the Jets using a Pick on Curtis Samuels to replace him . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 adderall???? wtf. is this guy trying to retake his wonderluck test? whatever. i just never pictured adderall as a ped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munchmemory Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 6 minutes ago, rangerous said: adderall???? wtf. is this guy trying to retake his wonderluck test? whatever. i just never pictured adderall as a ped. Helps with focus and concentration. Maybe Marshall thinks it makes him focus on passes better? Routes? Who knows what that idiot was thinking? All he needed to do was get a doctor's note. Also, isn't a four game suspension after a player has been caught a few times in the past? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brown Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 1 hour ago, The Crusher said: Coffee is probably next NFL is committing suicide witth these dumb rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adoni Beast Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 All that adderall and he still wasnt awake enough to stop dropping passes and fumbling. He sucks, cut his ass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GKnight83 Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 Too bad it did not make him smart enough to mask it better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ID. Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 1 hour ago, JETSfan4life_1 said: enlighten me, does he gain an edge? why was he suspended? Yes it is a banned substance but why? It's a stimulant? It's most commonly used to treat ADD/ADHD and as others have mentioned, it's a stimulant. It's not like HGH or Steroids, more like "speed"... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 Its been used in baseball, football and nascar “It masks fatigue, masks pain, increases arousal — like being in The Zone,” begins Wadler, currently an associate professor of medicine at Hofstra North Shore-LIJ School of Medicine, in a phone interview. “It increases alertness, aggressiveness, attention and concentration. It improves reaction time, especially when fatigued. Some think it enhances hand-eye coordination. Some believe it increases the mental aspects of performance.” That’s not to mention possible increases in acceleration, speed, strength and power that accrue to Adderall users. It’s no wonder that Wadler calls Adderall “one of the quintessential performance-enhancing drugs. There’s no question it’s a performance-enhancing drug.” is widely known to be a banned substance. what a big dummy this kid is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurnleyJet Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 27 minutes ago, Larz said: Its been used in baseball, football and nascar “It masks fatigue, masks pain, increases arousal — like being in The Zone,” begins Wadler, currently an associate professor of medicine at Hofstra North Shore-LIJ School of Medicine, in a phone interview. “It increases alertness, aggressiveness, attention and concentration. It improves reaction time, especially when fatigued. Some think it enhances hand-eye coordination. Some believe it increases the mental aspects of performance.” That’s not to mention possible increases in acceleration, speed, strength and power that accrue to Adderall users. It’s no wonder that Wadler calls Adderall “one of the quintessential performance-enhancing drugs. There’s no question it’s a performance-enhancing drug.” is widely known to be a banned substance. what a big dummy this kid is wow where can I get some, Can someone also slip it in Mo's Coffee.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 The recent Olympics noted that Simone Biles and Michael Phelps both have ADHD and use/have used Adderal or some variant thereof. Many adults use it. I would find it hard to believe that it is banned if it is prescribed. It is very easy to get prescribed. It is a controlled substance that is easy to abuse, so you don't abuse it. Something about this story is not fitting together. If the NFL thought the Adderall was being used as a masking agent, they should have left it as a PED violation and not said what it was. It would not be cool if Adderall was generally prohibited for use by football players. It basically would eliminate players with ADHD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SickJetFan Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 29 minutes ago, Larz said: Its been used in baseball, football and nascar “It masks fatigue, masks pain, increases arousal — like being in The Zone,” begins Wadler, currently an associate professor of medicine at Hofstra North Shore-LIJ School of Medicine, in a phone interview. “It increases alertness, aggressiveness, attention and concentration. It improves reaction time, especially when fatigued. Some think it enhances hand-eye coordination. Some believe it increases the mental aspects of performance.” That’s not to mention possible increases in acceleration, speed, strength and power that accrue to Adderall users. It’s no wonder that Wadler calls Adderall “one of the quintessential performance-enhancing drugs. There’s no question it’s a performance-enhancing drug.” is widely known to be a banned substance. what a big dummy this kid is sounds like a cool drug how can it help me ...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 Just now, SickJetFan said: sounds like a cool drug how can it help me ...... They wanted to put my son on it. they told me he would need to get an EKG first, because one of the potential side effects is "sudden death" it also doesn't take effect for an hour, lasts 6 hours then there is a big crash. needless to say he never took any and we are managing his adhd with lots of excercise and diet and patience its a central nervous system stimulant, it is pretty harsh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SickJetFan Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 1 minute ago, Larz said: They wanted to put my son on it. they told me he would need to get an EKG first, because one of the potential side effects is "sudden death" it also doesn't take effect for an hour, lasts 6 hours then there is a big crash. needless to say he never took any and we are managing his adhd with lots of excercise and diet and patience its a central nervous system stimulant, it is pretty harsh. sorry to hear I think I will stay clear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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