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1 hour ago, ScarletKnight89 said:

Over Dee Milliner? Kyle Wilson?

I'm not a big Pryor fan at all. But I'd take him over Milliner who couldn't get on the field due to injuries and poor play and Kyle Wilson who was atrocious for us.

Agreed but just barely.  All three of these guy are a huge letdown.  

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30 minutes ago, BigRy56 said:

Fair point. I am just of the opinion that Sheldon needs to go by any means necessary. Third round compensatory pick is fine with me.

If Sheldon is a FA in 2018 then the comp pick doesn't arrive till 2019.

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We must draft a QB every year until we know we've found one.  I'd spend a 1 this year and next year as well if need be.  

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http://www.sbnation.com/2017/3/9/14869344/nfl-free-agency-5-phases-contracts-depth

5 phases of NFL free agency

The favorite part of the NFL calendar for sources, reports, and people close to the situation has arrived. NFL free agency is here, and as usual, it’s hectic.

The legal tampering period started at Noon ET on Tuesday. The official start of free agency is Thursday at 4 p.m. ET. The legal tampering period took the place of the tampering period that happened but was never allowed. Free agents to be are allowed to be contacted by teams to discuss interest and terms. Nothing is allowed to be agreed upon until 4 p.m. on Thursday, but we all know that’s not the case. Deals are getting done while you read this.

The splashy part of the free agency gets all the attention, but in reality, that’s a small part of it. There are five tiers or phases of free agency. After playing eight seasons, I’ve been a part of four of those.

First phase: Straight cash homie

The first phase are the high-priority free agents. These are the big-name players who will be getting contracts that set them up for life. This is always what players are striving for, the second contract.

 

I finally got my second contract in year seven when I signed with the Giants. When the legal tampering period opened up, oddly enough on the morning of my wedding, I got eight calls right away. My agent and close family members started making a list of pros and cons, but my agent knew the Giants would be the most interested.

After the wedding that night, he told me we were set. Over the next couple of days before it could become official, not much happened. Right before 4 p.m. on the day you’re allowed to sign, the action picks up. My agent told me to pack a bag and be ready to hop on a flight.

For guys in this phase, the first flight you take is the only one. Teams battle for that opportunity. I was instructed that when 4 p.m. hit, only take a call from a N.Y./N.J. number and ignore the rest. The Giants called at 4 p.m., and I was in New York for dinner with the coaching staff. You must pass a physical the following morning before it can be official.

 

Second phase: Injury baggage

The second phase happens after the flurry of activity on day one. These players are backup plans for teams after they miss on first-phase players. Most often these are the guys who have been starters, but whose play declined because of injury. Some are still rehabbing from an injury. These guys will often take multiple trips to get physicals for each team and find the right spot for them to play and start.

In 2012, coming off my two hip surgeries, I took three trips in free agency: Minnesota, Detroit, and San Francisco. Each team wanted to clear me medically, and thought I’d compete for a starting spot if healthy.

The first-phase trips are to the steakhouse; these trips are to the local BBQ spot. Still fun, but not the same treatment as first phase. The contracts tend to be more incentive-laden, rewarding a player for staying healthy throughout the season.

Third phase: Depth signings

The third phase starts at the end of the second week of free agency and lasts through the third week. These are teams who have gone through free agency, looked at their depth, and decided they needed to add a possible rotational piece.

This was my year in Kansas City. I got picked up by an intern at the airport, not my position coach or anyone important. I went straight to the hotel and had my physical in the morning. After the physical, I went to the facility to meet the coaches, but none were there because of pro days. I signed my contract and went back to train.

These contracts tend to be base deals, with a tad of incentives. No fan fare and no guaranteed spot on the roster.

Fourth phase: Oh wait, that guy is still there

So the third-phase guys tend to be younger players who can provide depth at a few positions like linebackers, special teams, multiple OL positions, etc. Fourth-phase players tend to be veterans who can fill a specific role, like my signing with the Lions. I was insurance for their young players up front. If they got hurt, I was there. These contracts have almost zero guaranteed money. If it doesn’t pan out, oh well for the team.

Fifth Phase: Ballers just waiting for camp

These are the oldest players who are beyond proven and just want to train at home and wait for camp. Or in some cases, wait until camp is almost over to find the best spot. These players tend to be pass rushers, like Dwight Freeney. He can wait until something opens up late in camp and get into the season feeling fresh.

No matter what phase of free agency a player falls into, I hope they get every cent possible. The NFL is a ruthless business, so I always root for the player.

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Good luck Geno.  Sadly I think your Jets' experience has damaged your career beyond repair.  When is this franchise ever going to have a good (offensive minded) HC? 

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31 minutes ago, Adoni Beast said:

Say no to McCown. He's better than Fitz, but we just to let Petty and Hack have their shot.

I hope Mac has him in mind as strictly a backup if we sign him.  If so, he'd better get Bowles to sign off on the plan BEFOREHAND.   

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http://www.ganggreennation.com/2017/3/18/14965270/ny-jets-some-options-from-the-bargain-bin

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Jon Bostic, ILB. Age on opening day of the 2017 season: 26.  Jon Bostic has had the kind of star-crossed career that makes him an intriguing possibility for a bargain basement find.  He was drafted in the second round by the Chicago Bears in 2012 after starring at the University of Florida.  Bostic was one of the stars of the NFL Combine among the linebackers, with top 5 marks in the 40 yard dash, three cone shuttle and 20 yard shuttle. Bostic has excellent speed and quickness for a linebacker and is an aggressive, hard hitting player with some decent coverage and pass rushing ability.  Bostic was coming into his own in Chicago by his second year, recording 83 tackles in 679 snaps in 2013.  Then Chicago changed defensive schemes in 2015 and began their fire sale, and Bostic found himself on the outside looking in. The New England Patriots traded for Bostic in 2015, but Bostic was slowed early on by an ankle injury and never really found his niche with New England, ending up playing mostly on special teams.  The Patriots traded Bostic to the Detroit Lions in 2016, but Bostic broke his foot and spent the year on injured reserve.  Bostic is now a free agent.  He is two years removed from a pretty good performance as a partial year starter in Chicago.  Bostic has excellent athletic measurables and is a very hard hitter. At a minimum Bostic would be an immediate and substantial upgrade in terms of speed, quickness and pass coverage ability as a reserve inside linebacker, with upside to possibly reclaim a role as a starter in place of David Harris.  Bostic also has the ability and experience to play some outside linebacker in a pinch.  Bostic's major downsides are his spotty health history and a tendency to go for the kill shot, resulting in penalties. Bostic is unlikely to be very expensive after barely seeing the field the last two years.  Sign him to a three year, incentive laden contract and he could make decent money if he pans out while allowing the Jets to escape with little dead money if he doesn't. Pair him with a guy like Gerald Hodges and the two of them could possibly be brought in for less money than David Harris currently counts under the cap by himself, while substantially upgrading team speed, pass coverage ability, youth and depth at the linebacker position.

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7 minutes ago, Tinstar said:

Is he linked to the Jets . Probably has a Chicago connection even thou they were the ones who traded him  

Nope, no link that I know of but he sure sounds like a good on the cheap get to me.  We've gotta start thinking about how to replace Harris and if healthy this guy has that potential.   

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On 3/25/2017 at 2:48 PM, varjet said:

The 2017 will not be a playoff team and SR will not be on the team in 2018.

On that basis, I support moves that maximize the value of the SR relationship.

To me, that is not paying him in 2017, getting a reasonable draft pick in the 2017 draft and having him not win the team any games, and perhaps developing other DL for the future.  The Jets should win games with who they are long term, not a 1 year rental.

The alternative is using 2017 cap for him, getting a 3rd or 4th round pick in 2019 (maybe), haviing the coaches struggle to use him and having him take snaps from other players.

On that basis I would move McClendon while we are at it.

Varjet, you're a pretty good poster, thanks.  

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17 hours ago, Smashmouth said:

Whether the Jets coaches are morons or not (they are) Sheldon is a disruption and an Idiot ...Is his talent enough to offset that ?? If he was JJ Watt sure... but hes not JJ Watt, in fact, hes not  even a pro bowl player consistently and hes not even the best player on our D line. He is expendable as was Mo Wilk last year . The blunders this team has made all while trying to run a 3-4 scheme are ridiculous. We should have been drafting LB's all along in the early rounds and drafting occupiers in the later rounds for the D line ..the one Gem we did Draft In Harrison was the guy we needed to keep to anchor our defense not Mo Wilk and I said that from day 1 and I'm saying it now with Richardson

good post

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26 minutes ago, section314 said:

I disagree.....Peterson needs loads of touches to be effective. No way Pats will give any back 18-20 touches at the expense of Brady. 

Wtf are you talking about?  NE always has a good run game.  When it comes to NE some people are just blind.    

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8 minutes ago, southparkcpa said:

 

THIS ^^^^^....  Tin, please show me something that tells us he is a smart man?    He is a below average owner based on his record. Justthe numbers talking.... His other accomplishments?  Im at a loss there.

For someone born into his position Arizona State REALLY is an odd choice.   

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