UnknownJetFan Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 QB Daniels was released and is now available. He is 30 and only 6 feet, but so was Flutie who was pretty darn good even in the NFL. If he doesn't want too much he may be worth a 2 year deal for some reasonable amount of $ that doesn't impact us much this year or next. He has very minimal exp. but hey he has got to be better than Cutler, or RGIII, and unless we make a trade for a MacCaron, Simien, or Savage, etc. Daniels may be the best we can get. We can still even drat a QB with our number 1 pick this year if we have one fall to use we like. http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/03/13/chase-daniel-gets-his-wish/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge4Tide Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 I'd take him over Kapernick, RGIII, or Josh McNown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 Perfect if he comes cheap. Throw him in the mix with the other two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoBowles Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 Does he have what it takes to go 0-16? If so, GET HIM! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 6 years in the league and only 78 career passing attempts. Man has gotten rich without ever doing anything. Not sure what the point would be. No need to take reps from Petty or Hack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Mart Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 Adam Caplan (@caplannfl) 3/13/17, 6:34 PM Release of Daniels will show up on tomorrow's transactions. He'll be free to sign with another team on Tuesday after 4 pm ET. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnknownJetFan Posted March 13, 2017 Author Share Posted March 13, 2017 Carl, we need competition for Petty/Hack in order to push them to be better and take the starting job. If they can't beat out Daniels he starts till one of them beats him out or someone else we bring in via the draft does. Bringing in a McCown or Cutler (both of which will most likely beat out the younglings due to much more exp.) probably just sets us back with no upside i.e they will win 5-7 or 8 games missing the playoffs and making us draft too low for any good QBs next year. If that occurs with Daniels it is ebtter then with the old retreads. I just think someone like Daniels has a little more upside and he wants a chance to start so why not give him the chance for a position that someday someone like him could come along and possibly resolve for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munchmemory Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 I had no idea who the fuk Daniel's was. lol Just looked him up. Please pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnknownJetFan Posted March 13, 2017 Author Share Posted March 13, 2017 CMart, so can he be picked up on waivers with his current contract. Not sure it is worth the $ since he is due 7M the next 2 years, but if you gauge who might go after him and what they will pay him it is something to at least somewhat consider. The current contract he has probably has little gaurenteed if someone picks it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W. Namath Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 Sign him and let him compete. Take watson at 6 and let watson, daniel, hack and petty battle it out for the 3 spots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnknownJetFan Posted March 13, 2017 Author Share Posted March 13, 2017 I'd signup for Namath's take since if we had Daniels, Watson, Hack, and Petty and not one of them pans out we would have to just throw our hands up and say WTF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 If the OC knows him and likes him from New Orleans, why not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointman Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 Hack is a 2nd round pick. He needs reps now. Either the guys who knows things about QBs (the coaches, not forum members) sees something in him, or they don't. Lets find out now. No time better than the present. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yvj Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 If he's significantly better than Petty than why not If its close, go with Petty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pcola Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 I honestly wonder why Philly didn't trade him? Obviously, the Jets don't have a QB and if we had ANY interest in him at all, the could have squeezed a 2018 7th rounder, at a minimum. My guess is either Macc wasn't interested or maybe Daniels told Philly he wasn't going to come here. Either way, I would be a little surprised if he ends up here based on what little information is out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Schroy Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 Oh boy! Can't wait to sign this loser. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 32 minutes ago, The Crusher said: Perfect if he comes cheap. Throw him in the mix with the other two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 16 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: If it gets us Sam Darnoldson then crap it is. Yay crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Mart Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 30 minutes ago, UnknownJetFan said: CMart, so can he be picked up on waivers with his current contract. Not sure it is worth the $ since he is due 7M the next 2 years, but if you gauge who might go after him and what they will pay him it is something to at least somewhat consider. The current contract he has probably has little gaurenteed if someone picks it up. I think it'll be similar to Revis situation with the offset language in the contract A whopping $5 million of his 2017 salary was fully guaranteed. Per a source with knowledge of the situation, Daniel did not waive the guaranteed money. However, the guarantee contains offset language.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 I would have rather taken Foles and let him compete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 1 hour ago, UnknownJetFan said: QB Daniels was released and is now available. He is 30 and only 6 feet, but so was Flutie who was pretty darn good even in the NFL. If he doesn't want too much he may be worth a 2 year deal for some reasonable amount of $ that doesn't impact us much this year or next. He has very minimal exp. but hey he has got to be better than Cutler, or RGIII, and unless we make a trade for a MacCaron, Simien, or Savage, etc. Daniels may be the best we can get. We can still even drat a QB with our number 1 pick this year if we have one fall to use we like. http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/03/13/chase-daniel-gets-his-wish/ He has thrown one touchdown pass in his career. I really hope he isn't in the conversation to be our starting QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 46 minutes ago, T0mShane said: If the OC knows him and likes him from New Orleans, why not? Dude he couldn't beat out Drew Brees. Pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 2 minutes ago, Maxman said: He has thrown one touchdown pass in his career. I really hope he isn't in the conversation to be our starting QB. In 7 years the guy only threw 1 INT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 2 minutes ago, TuscanyTile2 said: In 7 years the guy only threw 1 INT. True. He was perfect last season as well. 100% completion percentage. And he averaged 16 yards per pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 4 minutes ago, Maxman said: He has thrown one touchdown pass in his career. I really hope he isn't in the conversation to be our starting QB. This way you can root and cheer for the Jets every game. We still get to draft Sam Darnoldson. I come to Sams first home game and give you nice foot massage as we watch pre game in the RV. Kinda perfect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doggin94it Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 1 hour ago, The Crusher said: Perfect if he comes cheap. Throw him in the mix with the other two. No reason he wouldn't; his Philly contract has a 5M guarantee with an offset, so unless anyone's offering him more than that, the salary won't matter to him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 1 hour ago, UnknownJetFan said: Carl, we need competition for Petty/Hack in order to push them to be better and take the starting job. If they can't beat out Daniels he starts till one of them beats him out or someone else we bring in via the draft does. Bringing in a McCown or Cutler (both of which will most likely beat out the younglings due to much more exp.) probably just sets us back with no upside i.e they will win 5-7 or 8 games missing the playoffs and making us draft too low for any good QBs next year. If that occurs with Daniels it is ebtter then with the old retreads. I just think someone like Daniels has a little more upside and he wants a chance to start so why not give him the chance for a position that someday someone like him could come along and possibly resolve for us. If the Jets need to sign someone to challenge these two young guys in order to push them to be better and take the job, then Hack and Petty aren't it and it's time to move on. What can a guy with 78 career passing attempts teach these guys besides stealing money? Everyone wants a chance to start, that shouldn't be a deciding factor into signing a vet QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCP63 Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 What has he shown that would make me want to possibly stunt Hack's growth? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 13 minutes ago, PCP63 said: What has he shown that would make me want to possibly stunt Hack's growth? Eh, diversifying our QB portfolio isn't stunting anyone's growth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Walrus Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 17 minutes ago, CrazyCarl40 said: If the Jets need to sign someone to challenge these two young guys in order to push them to be better and take the job, then Hack and Petty aren't it and it's time to move on. What can a guy with 78 career passing attempts teach these guys besides stealing money? Everyone wants a chance to start, that shouldn't be a deciding factor into signing a vet QB. Kind of agree with this. Hack and Petty have a golden chance to become a NFL franchise QB and the money that goes with it. If they need pushing for that then I too question their backbone. I wonder if there is some objective measurement about QB's needing mentors to grown. I suspect most of the current franchise QBs around simply got their by their own hard work and dedication. And didn't need a wet nurse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 25 minutes ago, CrazyCarl40 said: If the Jets need to sign someone to challenge these two young guys in order to push them to be better and take the job, then Hack and Petty aren't it and it's time to move on. What can a guy with 78 career passing attempts teach these guys besides stealing money? Everyone wants a chance to start, that shouldn't be a deciding factor into signing a vet QB. This is almost pure naivety. Anothef QB's job isn't to make the current ones better. Not being studs in their 2nd and 3rd seasons doesn't mean they are lost causes that you give up on. They all play for money, not sure why fans think the business side of NFL is this un-pure dirty thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thadude Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 1 hour ago, faba said: I would have rather taken Foles and let him compete They both blow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thadude Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 24 minutes ago, PCP63 said: What has he shown that would make me want to possibly stunt Hack's growth? I don't think we should even bother signing a scrub like Chase Daniel but how would he being on the roster "stunt" fellow dud Havkenburgh's "growth?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pac Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 He just got dumped in favor of Nick Foles... NICK FOLES. The guy who got benched for Case Keenum. If the Jets go into the season with Daniels, Petty and Hack we are officially the Washington Generals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SickJetFan Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 The point of a veteran backup QB is not for competition nor should he see the field except for in Preseason. If the jets do sign Daniel or someone like him and they don't waste s draft pick in 1st 2 rounds of this draft then this is what will happen The majority of snaps in training camp will go to the competition between Petty and Hack By the third PS game we will have a good idea who will start season (my money is on Petty) The vet will be named #2 The vet in this case is really important to say the least because he will help the young pup understand each week game plan in meetings, on practice field, and on the crapper. During a game if starter gets hurt he jumps in knowing the game plan and not needing same reps...he went be very good but he is best chance to win. If starter goes into slump then you play the loser of preseason and vet assumes backup sgsin and hopefully helps starter to be successful A vet backup like this needs to be unselfish and not try to undermined the 2 pups for selfish reasons so he may be starter This is why guys like geno will have s hard time ever getting a job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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