peebag Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 35 minutes ago, shuler82 said: The good news is even when he's out hurt, he'd still be giving more effort that Revis did on the field in 2016. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 Just now, shuler82 said: well.. it's 2016 all over again except we got rid of Revis' fat, lazy ass. Maybe Claiborne stays healthy. Maybe the Jets use one or two draft picks in the first 3 rounds to address the position. Stay tuned. I hope this eliminates Lattimore from the conversation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 We have solid depth at the corner position between Claiborne, Williams, Skrine, Phillips, and Burris. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peebag Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 1 minute ago, August said: We have depth at the corner position between Claiborne, Williams, Skrine, Phillips, and Burris. fixed that for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 My guess is that the Cowboys are planning on drafting a couple of corners. Smart of them. Although signing Claiborne was not consistent with the tank plan, but tank plan cannot involve saving cap space and fielding an amateur quality team (see 2014 Idzik). Claiborne helps prevent the potential gross embarrasments from not being to cover anybody. FS still looks like a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 Just now, varjet said: My guess is that the Cowboys are planning on drafting a couple of corners. Smart of them. Although signing Claiborne was not consistent with the tank plan, but tank plan cannot involve saving cap space and fielding an amateur quality team (see 2014 Idzik). Claiborne helps prevent the potential gross embarrasments from not being to cover anybody. FS still looks like a problem. Hooker or Adams, I think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PepPep Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 A few things to keep an eye on. Obviously, one is the injury bug. Claiborne played well when 1- he wasn't expected to be the #1 CB and 2- he was able to stay healthy. Shoudl be interesting to see what kind of money he gets and how the contract is structured. Macc will probably want to be able to cut him loose without taking a cap hit in the near future ( before yr 3?). The second thing is the fit. Claiborne is a man-press cover CB. That is where he excels and that is what the Jets play. He could end up having a superb season if he stays healthy. I would also keep an eye on the depth, particularly Skrine. The Jets tendered Williams, odds are they draft a CB at some point, they seem to like Marshall (as a returner as well), and both Roberts and Burris played well when given the opportunity. Skrine had an awful season, looked lost, and is overpaid. He could get cut...not just to clear cap, but due to poor performance if he looks bad in camp. The other thing is that Roberts is really a slot or Nickel CB. So its not like Skrine can just go into the slot and all is well and good. Roberts could very well take that spot away from him. Claiborne and Burris on the outside, Roberts in the slot, Williams as depth (pretty much in dime packages where he excelled in 2015) and Marshall/rookie as depth and special teams. Thats pretty much how I see the CB depth play out- note Skrine is not part of the equation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 43 minutes ago, Sarge4Tide said: Lattimore, Claiborne, Skrine, and Burris is not a bad CB corps Skrine stinks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PepPep Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 21 minutes ago, August said: We have solid depth at the corner position between Claiborne, Williams, Skrine, Phillips, and Burris. Who is Phillips? You mean D.Roberts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Mart Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 21 minutes ago, August said: We have solid depth at the corner position between Claiborne, Williams, Skrine, Phillips, and Burris. Who is Phillips? Drawing a blank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PepPep Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 Just now, Beerfish said: Skrine stinks Skrine needs to get cut, based off performance alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 lol poor Roberts, no one knows his name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Mart Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 2 minutes ago, PepPep said: A few things to keep an eye on. Obviously, one is the injury bug. Claiborne played well when 1- he wasn't expected to be the #1 CB and 2- he was able to stay healthy. Shoudl be interesting to see what kind of money he gets and how the contract is structured. Macc will probably want to be able to cut him loose without taking a cap hit in the near future ( before yr 3?). The second thing is the fit. Claiborne is a man-press cover CB. That is where he excels and that is what the Jets play. He could end up having a superb season if he stays healthy. I would also keep an eye on the depth, particularly Skrine. The Jets tendered Williams, odds are they draft a CB at some point, they seem to like Marshall (as a returner as well), and both Roberts and Burris played well when given the opportunity. Skrine had an awful season, looked lost, and is overpaid. He could get cut...not just to clear cap, but due to poor performance if he looks bad in camp. The other thing is that Roberts is really a slot or Nickel CB. So its not like Skrine can just go into the slot and all is well and good. Roberts could very well take that spot away from him. Claiborne and Burris on the outside, Roberts in the slot, Williams as depth (pretty much in dime packages where he excelled in 2015) and Marshall/rookie as depth and special teams. Thats pretty much how I see the CB depth play out- note Skrine is not part of the equation. Can Roberts play the slot? I see him more as an outside guy..If McDougle can stay healthy I can see him as a slot CB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike135 Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 6 minutes ago, varjet said: My guess is that the Cowboys are planning on drafting a couple of corners. Smart of them. Although signing Claiborne was not consistent with the tank plan, but tank plan cannot involve saving cap space and fielding an amateur quality team (see 2014 Idzik). Claiborne helps prevent the potential gross embarrasments from not being to cover anybody. FS still looks like a problem. Couple ways to look at it. Could be a way to lock up a high-upside CB, but still plan to lose this year. I mean the guy is injured so often, if it looks like they're gonna win, he can go down hurt at anytime. It could also be that Macc isn't planning on tanking. The dline will be good. LBs should be improved with experience. Couple good young CBs prior to Claiborne. If he can play like he did last season before the injury?... We actually become pretty good at corner. Grab one or two more secondary pieces via FA/draft and the D looks pretty good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PepPep Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 Just now, C Mart said: Can Roberts play the slot? I see him more as an outside guy..If McDougle can stay healthy I can see him as a slot CB Roberts has pretty much played slot for the pats. A CB is a CB and they all believe they can play on the outside. Roberts looked pretty good on the outside last year when given the opportunity, but he has always been a slot CB in the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 I like this signing. Decent player, young, shouldnt break the bank. I like the fact he could have busted out and made his money but he fought to make himself into a solid guy you can trust on the outside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PepPep Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 31 minutes ago, UnitedWhofans said: I hope this eliminates Lattimore from the conversation. Indeed, and I think the Hooker conversation begins. Cue Gilchrist release... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Mart Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 19 minutes ago, PepPep said: Indeed, and I think the Hooker conversation begins. Cue Gilchrist release... Could depend on the language in his contract since he's injured..But I'd guess at some point he will be.. The safety from Washington, Baker is getting a lot of pub as an Earl Thomas type.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 1 hour ago, Beerfish said: I thought this guy was a totally top notch CB when he was drafted. Maybe he can reclaim some of that promise, His career has been up and down. You thought the #6 overall pick was going to be good? Easy there with those predictions, you cowboy you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 1 minute ago, RutgersJetFan said: You thought the #6 overall pick was going to be good? Easy there with those predictions, you cowboy you. Don't doubt my internet scouting abilities! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinstar Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 1 minute ago, PepPep said: Indeed, and I think the Hooker conversation begins. Cue Gilchrist release... There're plenty of quality FS type prospects in this draft with play making ability and CB type speed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoop24 Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 7 minutes ago, PepPep said: Indeed, and I think the Hooker conversation begins. Cue Gilchrist release... We need 3 starting CBS in this league Claiborne on the outside and Skrine at nickel . Still leaves a opening which very well leave Lattimore in play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbt Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 17 minutes ago, Beerfish said: Skrine stinks +1000. penalty machine. makes Kyle Wilson look competent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PS17 Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 Cowboys forum is not pleased. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 sounds like a good signing. a db who is still playing at a high level and has maybe 3-4 seasons left. he comes from a winning organization. not quite 6' tall though. imo the jets need to draft taller db's with long wing spans to match up better with the taller receivers. the cowboys picked him ahead of tannenhill. the jets picked coples in his draft year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neckdemon Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 1 hour ago, Integrity28 said: Given the depth of this year's draft class, Claiborne might end up being our 3rd best CB when the season starts. Which isn't too shabby... of course, Mac has to trade down and get more picks in the first 3 rounds to make this dream come true. But I digress... if your dream is for the jets to draft cornerbacks.......your dreams suck. your wet dreams must be terrible....like tube of ky jelly and fleshlight bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southtown24th Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 1 hour ago, Mo Lew said: Had this guy in my '14 Madden dynasty team as the 2nd CB opposite Revis. He won DPY twice! Holy crap! This is real life...people actually talk like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoop24 Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 PFF ranked him a the 9th best CB in the league last year .. let's just hope he stays healthy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogglez Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 I absolutely loved Claiborne when he was at LSU. When he's healthy he can hang with the best of them. Very solid signing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 Agent leak, believe it when i see itSent from my LGLS992 using JetNation.com mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 49 minutes ago, neckdemon said: if your dream is for the jets to draft cornerbacks.......your dreams suck. your wet dreams must be terrible....like tube of ky jelly and fleshlight bad Dream? No. Logical strategy - given that this draft class is super-deep at CB - yes. I'm a believer in taking advantage of what is put in front of me. Rather than insisting that everything be circumstantially perfect before I can find success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 Lol I meant Roberts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetFanatic Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 1 hour ago, C Mart said: Could depend on the language in his contract since he's injured..But I'd guess at some point he will be.. The safety from Washington, Baker is getting a lot of pub as an Earl Thomas type.. Budda Baker is definitely a favorite of mine. I would look at him in the top of the 2nd round if Hooker was gone by the 6th pick. Baker plays like a missile shot of hell. Feisty little ****er. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 Anyone have terms on this yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Mart Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 1 hour ago, southtown24th said: Holy crap! This is real life...people actually talk like this. I hope Claiborne's agent didn't drop this info on Mcc. His price tag will increase another $2m a yr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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