varjet Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 Here is their second round. I question whether we got the right defensive back. For kicks and giggles, watch the Brett Kollman videos on Peppers, Hooker and Adams. Very insightful. 39. New York Jets Teez Tabor, CB, Florida The high 40-yard-dash times are concerning (4.64 at the NFL Combine, 4.7-range at Florida’s pro day), but Tabor’s tape is impressive. He is a bit of a risk-taker, but that also led to him getting his hands on 32 passes (23 pass breakups, nine interceptions) on only 143 targets the last three years. 40. Carolina Panthers Obi Melifonwu, S, UConn Melifonwu is an incredible athlete who continued to progress throughout his career at UConn. He can work well in Carolina’s two-high scheme, showing enough range on the back end while working downhill in the running game, just as he did in an impressive showing during Senior Bowl week. 41. Cincinnati Bengals Alvin Kamara, RB, Tennessee Kamara is explosive with the ball in his hands, tying for second in the draft class with an elusive rating of 129.4 and ranking fourth with 2.40 yards per route run. He brings a versatile weapon to the Bengals’ offense, capable of making plays both on the ground and as a receiver. 42. New Orleans Saints Gareon Conley, CB, Ohio State The Saints double-dip at the cornerback position, this time adding Conley, who brings good size and movement skills. He can play press or off coverage, allowing a nation-low passer rating of 13.6 into his coverage, and while there was certainly some luck involved in that number, he adds another playmaker on the back end of a revamped New Orleans defense. 43. Philadelphia Eagles Adoree’ Jackson, CB, USC Perhaps a bit more projection at this point, Jackson is an incredible athlete who has his ups and downs at cornerback. He possesses good ball skills, but he’ll find himself turned around at times in coverage. Still, he has the athleticism, room to improve, and special-teams skills to warrant a second-round pick. 44. Buffalo Bills Desmond King, CB, Iowa The run on cornerbacks continues as the Bills fill a need with King, who is one of the better zone corners in the draft. He has a good feel for route concepts, and opponents recorded a passer rating of 48.1 while throwing his way over the last three years. Throw in his sure tackling (only 11 misses on 176 attempts) and he’s a good fit for Buffalo’s defense. 45. Arizona Cardinals Quincy Wilson, CB, Florida Wilson has press-coverage ability that fits in with Arizona’s man-heavy scheme. He can play opposite CB Patrick Peterson, bringing his 6-foot-1 frame and solid movement skills to Arizona’s defense that desperately needs a No. 2 corner. Wilson allowed a passer rating of only 45.8 over the last three years. 46. Indianapolis Colts Sidney Jones, CB, Washington We’re back to the cornerback well, this time with the Colts taking a chance on the injured Jones. It’s a worthwhile risk to add a first-round talent to the defense, and a team willing to potentially sacrifice his rookie season could get the payoff of a top 2-3 corner in this class with press-coverage ability and excellent ball skills. 47. Baltimore Ravens Jabrill Peppers, S, Michigan Peppers can dabble in multiple roles on Baltimore’s defense, perhaps taking some snaps at linebacker or covering tight ends in nickel situations. If used in a pure strong safety role, he can make plays against the run as the extra man in the box and can line up over the slot against bigger receiver and tight ends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 If we took Tabor in front of all of the players listed above I would be enraged. You can be 'not fast' as a Cb in this league if you are super smart and get protected a bit. But if you are slow teams are going to take advantage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 7 minutes ago, Beerfish said: If we took Tabor in front of all of the players listed above I would be enraged. You can be 'not fast' as a Cb in this league if you are super smart and get protected a bit. But if you are slow teams are going to take advantage. Come on. It's not like the Patriots just traded for a receiver who runs a 4.2 forty or something, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 Who was the first rounder, btw? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W. Namath Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 Teez nuts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 Tabor over Melifonwu is pitchforks-and-torches territory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurnleyJet Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 I'd sooner have the Freak that's Obi Melifonwu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 Takes risks and is slow. Sounds like our kinda guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge4Tide Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 I'd be very happy with Tabor in the 2nd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 I haven't seen a run on DBs like that since the first season of the Jersey Shore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliforniaJet Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 Hell no! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetdawgg Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 The Jets need speed in the secondary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnJ Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 3 minutes ago, Jetdawgg said: The Jets need speed in the secondary They do. Burris looks like he may be decent, but he's around the same speed as Tabor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 3 hours ago, CrazyCarl40 said: I haven't seen a run on DBs like that since the first season of the Jersey Shore. The Jets will end up drafting the grenade of that group. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 Getting the best corner in the draft in the 2nd round? Sign me up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detectivekimble Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 20 hours ago, T0mShane said: Come on. It's not like the Patriots just traded for a receiver who runs a 4.2 forty or something, Would you be surprised if Bowles played Tabor man-to-man against Cooks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 Just now, detectivekimble said: Would you be surprised if Bowles played Tabor man-to-man against Cooks? Would he really have a choice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detectivekimble Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 18 hours ago, JohnJ said: They do. Burris looks like he may be decent, but he's around the same speed as Tabor Not true. Burris (4.52) an acceptable time for a CB and is a big and strong CB. I'm sure if Burris lost 15 pounds (Tabor's size), he'd probably run in the 4.4s. He's also a lot more explosive than Tabor (37" vertical vs. 31" vertical). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detectivekimble Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 4 minutes ago, UnitedWhofans said: Would he really have a choice? We can watch him run by Tabor (Thanks Mac) and then Pryor (Thanks Idzik) on a 90 yard TD reception. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 Just now, detectivekimble said: We can watch him run by Tabor (Thanks Mac) and then Pryor (Thanks Idzik) on a 90 yard TD reception. Well if he has a 90 yard TD reception, that means that our offense will have scored a TD. Because the Patriots rarely receive the opening kickoff or are aggressive at the beginning of the second half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 18 hours ago, JohnJ said: They do. Burris looks like he may be decent, but he's around the same speed as Tabor Tabor just ran a 4.77, Burris is a 4.53 guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnJ Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 35 minutes ago, detectivekimble said: Not true. Burris (4.52) an acceptable time for a CB and is a big and strong CB. I'm sure if Burris lost 15 pounds (Tabor's size), he'd probably run in the 4.4s. He's also a lot more explosive than Tabor (37" vertical vs. 31" vertical). I'm not criticizing Burris. I like him. But he's not a speedster on the outside and it was apparent that guys could get behind him. But he has skills to overcome that possibly. My point was agreeing with the other poster before me that speed may be a more important consideration in our secondary in considering Tabor. Especially outside. Even so Burris has a way to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 33 minutes ago, detectivekimble said: Would you be surprised if Bowles played Tabor man-to-man against Cooks? After watching how he deployed Antonio Cromartie and Darrelle Revis, the only thing that'd surprise me is if Bowles ever took responsibility for playing Tabor man to man on Cooks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmat321 Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 This is the draft that has the Jets moving from #6 to #2 to pick Mitchell Trubinsky? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 30 minutes ago, UnitedWhofans said: Well if he has a 90 yard TD reception, that means that our offense will have scored a TD. Because the Patriots rarely receive the opening kickoff or are aggressive at the beginning of the second half. Hodfyytdugfffgggfdgy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRy56 Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 Teez doesn't pass the name test Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 That image above is Bowles deciding to call a time out near the end of the half so the Pats and score a late game clinging td against us I take it? New England 2 and a 7 from their own 16 with 46 seconds left....time out new york jets . . 31 seconds left tom brady pass to James white for 28 yard td. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j4jets Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 If Peppers is there when we pick again, you take him and never look back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinstar Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 1 hour ago, JiF said: His play reminds me a lot of Richard Sherman and Aqib Talib . I don't think either of those guys are speedsters . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 Its a league wide conspiracy against the Jets and PFF is obviously in on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 find the guy who can do this or better: Dates: 03/16/07 Height: 5114Weight: 20440 Yrd Dash: 4.3820 Yrd Dash: 2.4910 Yrd Dash: 1.46 225 Lb. Bench Reps: Vertical Jump: 38Broad Jump: 10'5"20 Yrd Shuttle: 4.083-Cone Drill: 6.56 and be able to play the ball and the receiver at the same time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barkus Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 23 hours ago, RutgersJetFan said: Takes risks and is slow. Sounds like our kinda guy. We already have one, Calvin Pryor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 conspiracy talk aside people put way too much into measurable's 10th's of a second do not always translate to the football field. If you get the proper pressure on a QB the time in which a DB needs to actually cover drops substantially its not like teams throwing 50 yard bombs are going to be completing those passes at anything more than the 10 % they currently do and speed is only a factor on a fly route the rest comes down to quickness. Also as someone mentioned, smarts can shave tenths of a second quite easily as can quickness, both of which can not be measured in a 40 yard dash. Fcuk the combine and fcuk the measurable's give me football players over work out warriors every time./ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetFanatic Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 Would love to have Tabor, but definitely not ahead of any of those guys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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