JustInFudge Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 1 minute ago, dbatesman said: I would be stunned if this group actually drafts Willis, but if they do, I'll feel a lot better. My overall faith that they get the 2nd round right is very low...but still, its possible. haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 2 minutes ago, dbatesman said: I would be stunned if this group actually drafts Willis, but if they do, I'll feel a lot better. Wouldnt go nuts over King or Awuzie, but Id much prefer the pass rusher. Jets generally go offense round 2 and it never works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 3 minutes ago, Matt39 said: Wouldnt go nuts over King or Awuzie, but Id much prefer the pass rusher. Jets generally go offense round 2 and it never works. If we double up on DBs, I will absolutely go nuts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdeacon Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 I gave it an A. Fills a need and was the BPA. Guy has all the tools and heart to become game changer / household name in our secondary. Lets hope he can reach his ceiling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 Just now, dbatesman said: If we double up in DBs, I will absolutely go nuts. Yeah in the context of taking a safety round 1 its a bad look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScarletKnight89 Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 I'll be honest. I know very little about these guys outside of what I read in scouting reports from draft experts because i'm not a huge College Football fan. On paper, it looks like a great pick. Everyone loves this guy. We'll see how he plays. The only thing is that I really wanted a top flight cover safety. I liked Hookers scouting report a little more. It sounds like he has really good cover and ball skills. The Jets have gone with a guy who is more of a strong safety again but it does sound like his game is pretty complete and he's certainly not a liability in the passing game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 2 hours ago, sourceworx said: It isn't about whether he's a good player or not. He can be Ronnie Lott, Ed Reed, and Sean Taylor rolled into one. It's still a terrible pick considering the current state of this roster. The defense is littered with first round picks. The offense has none, and as a result, isn't a threat to anyone. We can't afford to take safeties with a top 10 pick. Yesterday was as disastrous as it could possibly get. Adams may be a good SS> But when you start talking about "leaderhsiP' ...really WTF are you talking about ?The Jets continue top pick defense and getting nowhere. No DC is looking at this offense and saying we have to stop this guy. The complete lack of talent, zero threat means the jets are now penciled in as an easy win for everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 49 minutes ago, RutgersJetFan said: So we got that going for us. Which is nice. 0 Super Bowls but maybe we win the Holiday Baking Championship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoBowles Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 54 minutes ago, dbatesman said: In my defense, it didn't take much convincing. Legend in your own mind.... Im more of a math guy, so I like to quantitate things like that based on results.... But to each his own....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lego My Lageman Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 Glad we didnt pick off of combine cone drills. Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 42 minutes ago, dbatesman said: If we double up on DBs, I will absolutely go nuts. I just got a boner for Budda Baker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge4Tide Posted April 28, 2017 Author Share Posted April 28, 2017 74.5% of respondents gave the pick an A - that's about the most overwhelming positive support you'll ever see on a Jets' forum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W. Namath Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 Hes an A+ player but for our team the pick was an F. You cannot keep neglicting the offense year after year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phill1c Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 1 minute ago, Joe W. Namath said: Hes an A+ player but for our team the pick was an F. You cannot keep neglicting the offense year after year. What specific offensive player would you have picked? I mean, it's great to have a philosophy. Now bring it down to the reality of this draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SickJetFan Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 3 hours ago, HessStation said: I just got a boner for Budda Baker. he sure could start off being a great Nickel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinc855 Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 17 hours ago, Matt39 said: Total fail. He plays strong safety. If you wanted to do that, for whatever reason, at least take the athlete from UCONN. This kid is Mark Barron 2.0. An in the box safety in 2017 because he's a leader or whatever just goes to show Bowles is a stooge and Maccagnan does what he asks. Must not watch a lot of football Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cant wait Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 2 hours ago, kevinc855 said: Must not watch a lot of football He goes through all the forms of coverage assignments he had at LSU, pulling up examples. We see zone from a strong safety spot. Man coverage out of the same look. Help-coverage from free safety. Iso-coverage against a tight end split out wide. Man-to-man in the slot. “I love it,” he says. “For some reason, certain people want to knock me for my coverage. I gave up one ball over 20 yards”—he’s talking about the Louisville game—“and a lot of people knocked me for my coverage. So when I hear somebody say, ‘He’s a box safety, his coverage ability is not great,’ that just triggers me. It’s like, are you really doing your job to where you’re watching film? You can ask any coach here. That’s what separates me from the pack.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drums Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 I wanted offense or a trade down but I gave it an A. BAP and a need. This draft is more than one round, so I think what happens next can determine if this pick was good or not, and I hope they know what the hell they're doing. Plenty of solid players left on both sides of the ball so I'm not freaking out. This pick could have been MUCH worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southparkcpa Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 7 hours ago, JiF said: My overall faith that they get the 2nd round right is very low...but still, its possible. haha HIstory is not on our side...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyLV Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 F-. No value unless he become an All Pro and even then the impact of a hybrid corner safety that is NOT a ballhawk, and he is not is exceedingly limited. Macc showed a huge amount of incompetence last night, especially if he had equitable offers to trade down, and outright fireable if any of those offers including 2 firsts. The Jets suck because the staff that Woody hires are terrible football people, and ultra conservative defensive coaches that refuse to adapt to the modern NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkheart Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 I have yet to see an expert that hated the pick. Very interesting reaction here. As for trading down (which many people here have whined to do), I think once Trubisky was gone, that went out the window. Because I don't see KC trying to jump from 27 to 6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
predator_05 Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 Don't hate the pick, but will he make a huge difference? I would have gambled on a QB like Mahomes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 Just checking in here to see if Marcus Maye is a leader of men as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cant wait Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 10 minutes ago, T0mShane said: Just checking in here to see if Marcus Maye is a leader of men as well he actually is a really good kid but you already know he sucks I'm sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 1 minute ago, cant wait said: he actually is a really good kid but you already know he sucks I'm sure ✅ Good kid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 9 hours ago, dbatesman said: If we double up on DBs, I will absolutely go nuts. Little did you realize S/CB wasn't even the worst scenario..., lololol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTownsell1 Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 If i could change my grade from an A to an F, I would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cant wait Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 18 minutes ago, T0mShane said: ✅ Good kid what's it like being so much smarter than everybody else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantasy Island Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 On 4/28/2017 at 1:36 AM, Fantasy Island said: D- , would have been an F , but it helps us get rid of another first round bust Calvin Pryor. I was right then, still right now. Should have taken Watson. Mac is stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harlemnite1 Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 On 4/28/2017 at 9:28 AM, Bugg said: How does this team score points? Again, might be a very good safety, but so what. You can get a servicable one later, not so with key offense slots. This franchise continues to overvalue defense and against all the evidence pretend they can get offensive talent alter in the draft or off the street. I agree if he were so good why did we need to draft another safety. One who I believe is the better of the two. Mahomes did more in one game than Adams did in a whole season. So are we going back to back tight ends this year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 1 hour ago, Harlemnite1 said: I agree if he were so goo why did we need to draft another safety. One who I believe is the better of the two. Mahomes did more in one game than Adams did in a whole season. So are we going back to back tight ends this year? 1.)Uhm..because we fired 2 safeties last year..not one. Therefore we had to grab two safeties..not one. 2.) ...This is idiotic on a whole other level. Mahomes threw for 200 some yards with zero TD’s and an Interception. Plus, who compares 16 games of S production to 1 game of QB production anyway..? Please tell me how you calculate the amount of production from both of these players and tally any kind of coherent results. How tf does any of that make sense? Jesus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigO Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 On 4/27/2017 at 9:28 PM, Bugg said: How does this team score points? Again, might be a very good safety, but so what. You can get a servicable one later, not so with key offense slots. This franchise continues to overvalue defense and against all the evidence pretend they can get offensive talent alter in the draft or off the street. Adams does provide offense. Unfortunately it’s for the opposition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigO Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 3 hours ago, Fantasy Island said: I was right then, still right now. Should have taken Watson. Mac is stupid. To be honest I wasn’t to aware of either Adams or Watson’s potential skill set. I didn’t see them play much and just went off the hype from draft profiles etc. I saw Watson a bit and was leary of him since he wasn’t a prototypical pocket QB. Adams was getting crazy hype so I was amazed he was there at 6. But NOW, after seeing both play on the big stage, I have to admit, I couldn’t have been more wrong about Watson being an amazing talent and Adams playing like a chicken who lost his head. It’s a shame Watson was injured as he was easily on his way to rookie of the year and dare I say MVP. If you have the vision to see how impressive Watson was and the impact he could have, it’s a no brainer you take him at 6, especially since we were so desperate for a franchise QB. You take the risk and keep drafting a QB until you hit as so many in here insist. Safeties are a dime a dozen, franchise QB’s are gifts from the football Gods. As it is, Mac blew this as the Jets couldn’t trade their whole 2018 draft to the Texans (and throw in Adams) for Watson - even coming off an injury. http://ftw.usatoday.com/2017/10/deshaun-watson-stats-houston-texans-nfl-draft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 35 minutes ago, BigO said: Adams does provide offense. Unfortunately it’s for the opposition. Lolz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 4 hours ago, Fantasy Island said: I was right then, still right now. Should have taken Watson. Mac is stupid. It is really hard to upgrade on Calvin Pryor tho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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