kmnj Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 we all know today is an offense dominated league but lets examine past three decades as well in round one since since 1990 -only true impact players at the position thomas for the hawks-he was their second pick round one-first was a tackle reed for the ravens-towards end of round one berry for the chiefs -fifth pick pretty much on avg a player a decade is a hit at safety round one and only one was picked higher than Adams in berry He will be a good player but three decades of history show safety is not where you go round one especially when you have one pick and your team has a dreadful offense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vader Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 Someone mentioned "Brian Dawkins". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BklynJetsFan85 Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 the experts who get paid for this sh*t disagree with you highly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurnleyJet Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 Chill, the Tank is on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goober36 Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 we all know today is an offense dominated league but lets examine past three decades as well in round one since since 1990 -only true impact players at the position thomas for the hawks-he was their second pick round one-first was a tackle reed for the ravens-towards end of round one berry for the chiefs -fifth pick pretty much on avg a player a decade is a hit at safety round one and only one was picked higher than Adams in berry He will be a good player but three decades of history show safety is not where you go round one especially when you have one pick and your team has a dreadful offense Guess what? There was no qb, edge rusher or tackle that had value at #6....BPA at a spot of need and that was Adam. This is the correct way to buildSent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogglez Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 15 minutes ago, BklynJetsFan85 said: the experts who get paid for this sh*t disagree with you highly. It's almost like.... The people b*tching... Are completely wrong... And have no business talking about this type of thing... Weird ????. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogglez Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 The hilarious part of tonight is there are some people here who sh*t on the Bears for doing something (really) stupid, yet were screaming for us to basically do the same f*cking thing all week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Maxman Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 1 hour ago, kmnj said: we all know today is an offense dominated league but lets examine past three decades as well in round one since since 1990 -only true impact players at the position thomas for the hawks-he was their second pick round one-first was a tackle reed for the ravens-towards end of round one berry for the chiefs -fifth pick pretty much on avg a player a decade is a hit at safety round one and only one was picked higher than Adams in berry He will be a good player but three decades of history show safety is not where you go round one especially when you have one pick and your team has a dreadful offense What offensive player did you want them to select there? Let's assume trading down wasn't an option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artemusclyde Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 9 minutes ago, Maxman said: What offensive player did you want them to select there? Let's assume trading down wasn't an option. Mahomes. Draft a qb. Andy Reid is jizzing himself right now having Favre flashbacks now that he has Mahomes. We drafted a strong safety ending Pryor's career here at the Jets, while having massive holes at cb. If you draft a safety, you draft Hooker their to give much needed help to whatever crap we're playing at corner this year. It's a perfect tank pick though, cause right now he won't do much to improve the team. Our run defense got stronger but we'll be absolutely shredded in the pass. Edit: Btw, Adams isn't the consensus best safety in the draft. Just going on NFL.com and checking their grades puts Hooker at a 6.7 above Adams 6.6. Hooker is the most talented safety in the draft. His speed is freakish. He's Ed Reed 2.0 assuming he doesn't hurt himself with that injury history. You have to coach up his tackling but considering he hasn't been playing football for that long, a good coaching staff should have no problems developing him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesr Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 Want to hear something funny? I'm using Tapatalk to read this thread, and the advert at the top of the page is for organic cotton tampons.I think quite a few posters here could do with some ... "Be kinder to your vagina"Sent from my XT1068 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papz187 Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 Sean Taylor is another one....if not for getting killed he was already on pace to be like the others mentionedSent from my SM-N915T using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoop24 Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 Jets got to many holes.. simply just adding good players at this point is a good move regardless of position . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 1 hour ago, jamesr said: Want to hear something funny? I'm using Tapatalk to read this thread, and the advert at the top of the page is for organic cotton tampons. I think quite a few posters here could do with some ... "Be kinder to your vagina" Sent from my XT1068 using Tapatalk The ads are personalized based on search criteria. I agree with your overall thought. Just letting you know, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 4 hours ago, goober36 said: Guess what? There was no qb, edge rusher or tackle that had value at #6....BPA at a spot of need and that was Adam. This is the correct way to build Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app No QB that had value at six. But trading up to TEN, well hell yeah! But only at ten. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sourceworx Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 5 hours ago, kmnj said: we all know today is an offense dominated league but lets examine past three decades as well in round one since since 1990 -only true impact players at the position thomas for the hawks-he was their second pick round one-first was a tackle reed for the ravens-towards end of round one berry for the chiefs -fifth pick pretty much on avg a player a decade is a hit at safety round one and only one was picked higher than Adams in berry He will be a good player but three decades of history show safety is not where you go round one especially when you have one pick and your team has a dreadful offense U don't no futbawl! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetdawgg Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 Upgrade at a position of weakness. Go Jets and JA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 The best part of all of this is that we will not get one of the QB's in next year's draft, book that. Book it. AND Those of us still here will get to hear the Gospel of No Weaponz from those adherents to the Cult of Hack, much akin to the walking nightmare that was the endless round rubber room stroll to which we agnostics were subjected to by those in the Cult of Sanchez of The White Jeans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetdawgg Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 6 minutes ago, sourceworx said: U don't no futbawl! Contagious around these parts. Trending to pandemic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawn306 Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 When you are as talent starved as the Jets are you do not reach at 6. You take a guy who you know will contribute and be a foundation guy from day 1. Adams was rated as the second best player on many boards. This was a no brainer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 Drafting for position is how you end up with bryan thomas over ed reed Ok, i stole that line lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GKnight83 Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 6 hours ago, kmnj said: we all know today is an offense dominated league but lets examine past three decades as well in round one since since 1990 -only true impact players at the position thomas for the hawks-he was their second pick round one-first was a tackle reed for the ravens-towards end of round one berry for the chiefs -fifth pick pretty much on avg a player a decade is a hit at safety round one and only one was picked higher than Adams in berry He will be a good player but three decades of history show safety is not where you go round one especially when you have one pick and your team has a dreadful offense The Jets are not playing fantasy football! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fltflo Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 Again, JA is a very exciting kid and has many of the attributes of a very good player. Yet ,without a franchise QB you got a body without a head. Three teams traded up to get a QB and we had the opportunity to get the best of them (imho) Watson. I see shades of passing on another QB many years ago, by the name of Marino,hope I am wrong. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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thadude Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 11 minutes ago, fltflo said: Again, JA is a very exciting kid and has many of the attributes of a very good player. Yet ,without a franchise QB you got a body without a head. Three teams traded up to get a QB and we had the opportunity to get the best of them (imho) Watson. I see shades of passing on another QB many years ago, by the name of Marino,hope I am wrong. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Kizer is the best Qb in this draft I hope he falls to us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sourceworx Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 3 minutes ago, thadude said: Kizer is the best Qb in this draft I hope he falls to us Kizer is terrible. At this point take Peterman in the third (assuming Mac decides to actually pay attention to the offense a little) or Chad Kelly tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupz27 Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 5 hours ago, Maxman said: What offensive player did you want them to select there? Let's assume trading down wasn't an option. Only guy I would have been ok with there besides Adams was Mahomes, maybe MacCaffery. Super excited about adding Adams, not just for his play, but for everything else he brings to this team, leadership, and the way he will command the defense, he is being compared to Dawkins, and Ray Lewis for the type of Alpha Dog they were that just fired up every other player, and brought those guys play up to another level. IF this is true, and I believe it is the Jets got a corner stone to anchor a defense for a long time. Now since you went all safe with character in the 1st time to gamble on character in the 2nd for a BIG time talent on offense in Cook, get that done, and the Jets walk away with top 5 offensive player, and top 5 defensive player in this draft talent wise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupz27 Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 6 minutes ago, sourceworx said: Kizer is terrible. At this point take Peterman in the third (assuming Mac decides to actually pay attention to the offense a little) or Chad Kelly tomorrow. Just punt at QB at this point, there will be 5 guys taken in the 1st next year, and about 5 decent FA QB's, see what Hack has go from there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sourceworx Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 1 minute ago, Lupz27 said: Just punt at QB at this point, there will be 5 guys taken in the 1st next year, and about 5 decent FA QB's, see what Hack has go from there. Maybe they like Hack more than they're letting on. I don't know. A goddamned safety at #6. Horrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCJet Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 Kizer is literally the last person I want in the entire draft. He wasnt even good enough to lead his college team. I would be happy with Cook or Lamp at this point, as both are likely BPA. Peterman would be a dream in the 3rd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UntouchableCrew Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 I think some people are caught up in the "he's a safety" aspect of it rather than recognizing the "he was the second best player in the draft and will be a generational all pro talent who is the leader of this team for 10+ years" aspect of it. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoop24 Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 36 minutes ago, sourceworx said: Kizer is terrible. At this point take Peterman in the third (assuming Mac decides to actually pay attention to the offense a little) or Chad Kelly tomorrow. I would never take peterman over kizer . Kizer has potenial franchise QB tools . Peterman is a game manager at best tools . Chad Kelly will be lucky to be drafted in day 3. he def won't be going in the third . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sourceworx Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 1 minute ago, Scoop24 said: Ur insane .. I would never take peterman over kizer . Kizer has potenial franchise QB tools . Peterman is a game manager at best tools . Chad Kelly will be lucky to be drafted in day 3. he def won't be going in the third . I wasn't saying to take Chad Kelly in the third round. I said tomorrow. Day 3. And Kizer has bust written all over him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoop24 Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 2 minutes ago, sourceworx said: I wasn't saying to take Chad Kelly in the third round. I said tomorrow. Day 3. And Kizer has bust written all over him. That's your opinion and he could very well be. He still a way better prospect than petermen.. I would just pass on QB all together cause there's players I like ahead of Kizer and the rest of the crop outside Webb . Don't have starter potential . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sourceworx Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 1 minute ago, Scoop24 said: That's your opinion and he could very well be. He still a way better prospect than petermen.. I would just pass on QB all together cause there's players I like ahead of Kizer and the rest of the crop outside Webb . Don't have starter potential . I'd take a flyer on Kelly late tomorrow. Otherwise I agree. The only QB that truly excited me this year was Mahomes, and we sh!t the bed on that one yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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