jamesr Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 Without answering "The Jets" ... which team do you think made the most questionable / head scratching pick in Round 1? Usually there's one team that everyone points at and laughs, but I'm not so sure there was a real "huh?" pick in Round One. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupz27 Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 On 4/28/2017 at 4:37 PM, jamesr said: Without answering "The Jets" ... which team do you think made the most questionable / head scratching pick in Round 1? Usually there's one team that everyone points at and laughs, but I'm not so sure there was a real "huh?" pick in Round One. Titans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigalbarracuda Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 21 minutes ago, Lupz27 said: Titans Yeh besides the QBs (all were reaches IMO) the Titans reached on both their firsts (Davis and Jackson). Also, the Giants taking Engram was a head scratcher... esp with Ramczyck, Njoku, Foster, Dalvin Cook, and all the Guards on the board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesr Posted May 3, 2017 Author Share Posted May 3, 2017 Reading these two answers made me wonder ... there was a lot of criticism of Macc for not trading down from 6 to stockpile more picks. But if someone wanted to move up, wouldn't Tennessee also have had an interest? Were they really sold on Davis being a top 5 talent? I'm getting more and more convinced that the interest in moving up to that area in the draft was slim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirorob Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 Bears They didn't even tell their head coach what they were going to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PepPep Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 Bears: Trubisky- b/c of the trade up. Raiders: Conley- b/c of the sexual assault allegation Lions: J.Davis- IMO a major reach Side note: I'm not going to call it a 'steal' but best value in the first round was easily Washington getting Allen at 17. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PepPep Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 21 hours ago, bigalbarracuda said: Yeh besides the QBs (all were reaches IMO) the Titans reached on both their firsts (Davis and Jackson). Also, the Giants taking Engram was a head scratcher... esp with Ramczyck, Njoku, Foster, Dalvin Cook, and all the Guards on the board. 22 hours ago, Lupz27 said: Titans I disagree. RE: Titans. I can see how many would think that, but it comes down to how the teams view these prospects. To me, Davis is a slightly better overall WR prospect in comparison with Williams. So if the Titans felt like they wanted to address WR and get their hands on the top WR prospect in the draft, I can't blame them for going for Davis, I don't nec. see it as reach. Same with Jackson. He is an elite athlete and versatile player that can contribute on special teams. I think he fell down some boards b/c he is more of a zone scheme CB and does not possess the man cover skills that a lot of the other CBs did in this draft. But if the Titans felt like he would fit their defense perfectly and wanted help on special teams, this is a great pick and not really a reach. Yeah, Giants was a 'head-scratcher' to me as well- not sure the fit or value are there, but clearly they love Engrams upside and at least got Eli another weapon. If their O-line can hold up, the Giants should have a great passing offense with ODB, B.MArshall, Shepard and now Engram. They also added Gallman in the 4th round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raideraholic Posted May 8, 2017 Share Posted May 8, 2017 On May 4, 2017 at 0:45 PM, PepPep said: Bears: Trubisky- b/c of the trade up. Raiders: Conley- b/c of the sexual assault allegation Lions: J.Davis- IMO a major reach Side note: I'm not going to call it a 'steal' but best value in the first round was easily Washington getting Allen at 17. Conley - Now can't say if he's innocent or guilty, but there is little chance he faces any charges. For the simple fact video evidence contradicts her initial statement to the police.( top lawyer will create enough doubt that no jury will convict. Not to mention very hard to prove what really happened in that hotel room.( she said/ he said). I can't see district attorney bringing a case that's going to be hard to prove. What jury going to buy a woman coming up to a guy hotel room at 3:00 am . ( what do you think you were going to play cards.) Last point if the District attorney did bring chargers , what the chance it ever went to trial. Probably pay off the woman ,at that point. Not condoning anything just saying why the Raiders probably felt they could draft him, and why they felt very confident this will all get resolved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicg4360 Posted May 8, 2017 Share Posted May 8, 2017 The bears will always be looked at with the big question mark because...A they could have stayed at 3 and got Trubisky. 49ers weren't taking him and no team was going to trade up that much for him. B. They just signed GlennonC. They gave up to much, they are as much a rebuilding team and gave up valuable picks in a deep draft for a QB that will likely be sitting for a year. Yea I consider it a big ?Sent from my Moto Z using JetNation.com mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirorob Posted May 8, 2017 Share Posted May 8, 2017 2 hours ago, nicg4360 said: The bears will always be looked at with the big question mark because... A they could have stayed at 3 and got Trubisky. 49ers weren't taking him and no team was going to trade up that much for him. B. They just signed Glennon C. They gave up to much, they are as much a rebuilding team and gave up valuable picks in a deep draft for a QB that will likely be sitting for a year. Yea I consider it a big ? Sent from my Moto Z using JetNation.com mobile app They also didn't tell the head coach what they were doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesr Posted May 9, 2017 Author Share Posted May 9, 2017 On 5/4/2017 at 5:45 PM, PepPep said: Side note: I'm not going to call it a 'steal' but best value in the first round was easily Washington getting Allen at 17. Makes up for them passing over Leo to pick "a friggin' guard" a few years back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
win4ever Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 I'm going to say the Chiefs, mainly because I think they took a major risk by moving up for a complete lottery ticket. The Chiefs are a perennial playoff contender, and they went with two first round picks on a guy that almost certainly won't play this year, and maybe gets a shot next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil Woody Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 Texans. I know some think DW was the best QB in the class, I do not. So to many it's a great pick. To me they took a major risk on a player with 3rd round ability and 1st round intangibles. Giants pick also made zero sense. Had the pick of Ramcyzk/Robinson, and passed up Njoku for a Hback. I'd add Cook and Foster in there too but the Giants shy away from any picks that don't fit their phony narrative of "having class". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 The Bears' move for Trubisky was indefensible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 On 5/3/2017 at 0:06 PM, bigalbarracuda said: Yeh besides the QBs (all were reaches IMO) the Titans reached on both their firsts (Davis and Jackson). Also, the Giants taking Engram was a head scratcher... esp with Ramczyck, Njoku, Foster, Dalvin Cook, and all the Guards on the board. Either you and I are on different magnetic poles, or you didn't follow the draft very closely... The Davis pick was an eyebrow raiser for sure, but Jackson? He was a legit top 5 CB in the draft. Teams have different boards. Some had him at 5, some had him at 2. etc. Same with Engram over Njoku... but i see the point your trying to make. A reach IMO isn't so much the player as it is passing on the talent presently available. This year's stock should have been labelled "mileage may vary" With that said, i'm guilty of my own argument with John Ross. Awful reach i thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigalbarracuda Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 2 hours ago, Paradis said: Either you and I are on different magnetic poles, or you didn't follow the draft very closely... The Davis pick was an eyebrow raiser for sure, but Jackson? He was a legit top 5 CB in the draft. Teams have different boards. Some had him at 5, some had him at 2. etc. Same with Engram over Njoku... but i see the point your trying to make. A reach IMO isn't so much the player as it is passing on the talent presently available. This year's stock should have been labelled "mileage may vary" With that said, i'm guilty of my own argument with John Ross. Awful reach i thought. I follow the draft very closely... I like Jackson the player (def top 5 CB available) just didn't think the value was there at pick 18. They could've taken OJ Howard and run him next to 32-year-old Delanie Walker and given Mariota a legit long-term weapon. On defense, they could have gone with Peppers, Davis, Charlton, or Foster! Conley and McKinley too, even though they had their warts. I get that they needed a CB, but that position was deeeep this year and I personally don't think Jackson will be a better pro than Howard-Foster-Davis (when you write it like that it looks like a circa-1890s justice of the Supreme Court) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thadude Posted May 23, 2017 Share Posted May 23, 2017 On 5/18/2017 at 10:08 AM, dbatesman said: The Bears' move for Trubisky was indefensible. It was retarded. Trubisky will not be as good as Glennon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BklynJetsFan85 Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 Bears, then Titans... i couldn't believe Adams fell to us - i feel like we got one of the biggest steals of the draft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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