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18 hours ago, T0mShane said:

I think your interpretation of "cracks at a SB," and Rex's role in those "cracks" is flawed. 

I would call playing in the championship game where the winner goes to the SB as a crack and it’s baffling how we made 2 title games in a row w/ such a buffoon as a HC, a terrible GM, terrible OC, terrible QB, etc…

18 hours ago, dbatesman said:

When he's done praising Rex for said cracks, have him tell you about how the Giants' two championship runs are just flukes undeserving of praise.

they deserve praise but there wasn't a huge difference btw NYG '07/'11 and NYJ '09/'10 other than NYG caught more breaks.  close Sanchez fumble which could have easily been called incomplete for Jets while clear Bradshaw fumble is ruled down.  They rule that a fumble NYG doesn’t go to their last SB.

18 hours ago, RutgersJetFan said:

The record is 4. Stop with this sh*t.

is it a record? yes, 4 playoff wins is a significant amount for the new York Jets.  Know how many playoff wins the great Bill Belichick has without Tom Brady?  ONE, know how many title game apps?  ZERO

 

but I am glad you guys are fine w/ what we have done since rex. 

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Weeb was far and away the best Jets coach ever and he has a ring to prove it.

I liked Rex. He's the best gameplanner the Jets ever had.

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8 minutes ago, Jethead said:

Weeb was far and away the best Jets coach ever and he has a ring to prove it.

I liked Rex. He's the best gameplanner the Jets ever had.

Weeb gets #1 b/c of the championship but Weeb had 3 winning seasons in 11 years here and getting to the SB was much easier back then.  we don't have a great coaching history, we don't have a great history which is why we should appreciate the small successes we have had.  we aren't building a statue of Rex but have some appreciation for what he did.

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1 hour ago, nyjunc said:

I would call playing in the championship game where the winner goes to the SB as a crack and it’s baffling how we made 2 title games in a row w/ such a buffoon as a HC, a terrible GM, terrible OC, terrible QB, etc…

they deserve praise but there wasn't a huge difference btw NYG '07/'11 and NYJ '09/'10 other than NYG caught more breaks.  close Sanchez fumble which could have easily been called incomplete for Jets while clear Bradshaw fumble is ruled down.  They rule that a fumble NYG doesn’t go to their last SB.

is it a record? yes, 4 playoff wins is a significant amount for the new York Jets.  Know how many playoff wins the great Bill Belichick has without Tom Brady?  ONE, know how many title game apps?  ZERO

 

but I am glad you guys are fine w/ what we have done since rex. 

There it is!

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19 hours ago, jmat321 said:

Rex Ryan is Jerry Glanville with a Pornhub Channel.

Glanville did run the Run & Shoot offense, so he at least liked to throw a forward pass more than 3 or 4 times a game and not only on 3rd down. 

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11 minutes ago, C Mart said:

FWIW via Cimini:

4. Maye day! Maye day! Adams has been the talk of the draft class, which is what you'd expect from the sixth overall pick, but the player who really jumped out during the three-week OTA period was second-round safety Marcus Maye. Working mostly at free safety, he impressed the organization with his ability to digest the defense and limit his mental mistakes on the practice field. It's still early, but the Jets really like the way the Maye-Adams tandem is developing.

@dbatesman here is your cue to wipe your bottom on this thread too.

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12 minutes ago, C Mart said:

FWIW via Cimini:

4. Maye day! Maye day! Adams has been the talk of the draft class, which is what you'd expect from the sixth overall pick, but the player who really jumped out during the three-week OTA period was second-round safety Marcus Maye. Working mostly at free safety, he impressed the organization with his ability to digest the defense and limit his mental mistakes on the practice field. It's still early, but the Jets really like the way the Maye-Adams tandem is developing.

Great news, especially for a team with the least talented roster in the league .

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imo the only issue with the maye pick is that the jets their two top picks on safeties when they have a number of positions that could really use top round help.  but in bowles system good safeties are needed just as much as any other positions so hopefully it'll work out.  and even though pryor was limited the jet defense did play better when he was in there.

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2 hours ago, C Mart said:

FWIW via Cimini:

4. Maye day! Maye day! Adams has been the talk of the draft class, which is what you'd expect from the sixth overall pick, but the player who really jumped out during the three-week OTA period was second-round safety Marcus Maye. Working mostly at free safety, he impressed the organization with his ability to digest the defense and limit his mental mistakes on the practice field. It's still early, but the Jets really like the way the Maye-Adams tandem is developing.

kiss of death....

we are cursed

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On 5/3/2017 at 10:40 AM, JoJoTownsell1 said:

If the odds were high that Watson or Mahomes would be a top 15 QB, the  Jets would have taken them. Christian Ponder/EJ Manuel/Manziel/Weeden/Gabbert etc are part of a long list of average QB prospects recently taken in the first round that ended up becoming busts because a GM decided it would be a good idea to reach for QB that MAY become a top 15 QB. 

The chances of Adams becoming a pro bowler is far greater than the chances of Watson/Mahomes becoming top 15 NFL Qbs. That is why the Jets took Adams. That is why the Browns took Garret that is why the Niners took Thomas. You don't just take random QBs because they MAY become good NFL players. If you do that every year, you end up with a roster devoid of any talent. The Chiefs and Texans already have a great roster and therefore were able to take a chance on Mahomes/Watson. The Jets are not in a position to pass on A grade players for C grade QBs. 

The Maye pick was a little baffling but I am willing to give Macc the benefit of the doubt as the BPA strategy is generally the smartest way to build a playoff caliber roster. 

Jets have gone BPA for the last 10 years and its gotten them nowhere. Its lazy scouting and only fits if you are picking at the back end of the draft every year. The Jets also have a problem taking high-end talent only from the defensive side of the ball. It made the roster lopsided and that is why you have Bowles kicking field goals down 38.0.

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On 5/11/2017 at 4:46 PM, nyjunc said:

whether one feels that way or not he's still the most successful coach we have ever had.  it ended badly but no other coach gave us 2 cracks at a SB. would you rather have that or what we had in 2016?

Thank you, I'm glad someone else feels that way. Rex wanted to be here too unlike Groh, Bellicheck, and Edwards. All Rex needed was a competent GM.

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8 hours ago, Harlemnite1 said:

Thank you, I'm glad someone else feels that way. Rex wanted to be here too unlike Groh, Bellicheck, and Edwards. All Rex needed was a competent GM.

that is a great point.  how many coaches walked out on us?  rex loved it here and never wanted to leave, Idzik destroyed his NYJ career.

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8 hours ago, Harlemnite1 said:

Thank you, I'm glad someone else feels that way. Rex wanted to be here too unlike Groh, Bellicheck, and Edwards. All Rex needed was a competent GM.

 

1 minute ago, nyjunc said:

that is a great point.  how many coaches walked out on us?  rex loved it here and never wanted to leave, Idzik destroyed his NYJ career.

I'd do anything to have him back.  

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4 minutes ago, nyjunc said:

that is a great point.  how many coaches walked out on us?  rex loved it here and never wanted to leave, Idzik destroyed his NYJ career.

The same Rex that turned his F150 into the Bills mobile?

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2 minutes ago, NoBowles said:

The same Rex that turned his F150 into the Bills mobile?

did you want him to have a Jets themed car in orchard Park?

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2 minutes ago, NoBowles said:

The same Rex that turned his F150 into the Bills mobile?

I think his was an F250.  My F150 is decked out in all Jets colors.  It's sick, bro.

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26 minutes ago, nyjunc said:

did you want him to have a Jets themed car in orchard Park?

 

23 minutes ago, JiF said:

I think his was an F250.  My F150 is decked out in all Jets colors.  It's sick, bro.

I wanted him in a Jets themed Prius...

like stuffing an elephant into a small pillowcase 

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9 hours ago, Harlemnite1 said:

Jets have gone BPA for the last 10 years and its gotten them nowhere. Its lazy scouting and only fits if you are picking at the back end of the draft every year. The Jets also have a problem taking high-end talent only from the defensive side of the ball. It made the roster lopsided and that is why you have Bowles kicking field goals down 38.0.

BPA is only effective if the scouting reports are accurate and the GM is selecting the right players in the draft. As you point out, this hasn't been happening. But don't blame it on the BPA philosophy- blame it on the staff. Other teams have gone BPA quite successfully.

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On 4/29/2017 at 10:42 AM, Raideraholic said:

Might not be the most glamorous picks ( drafting two safeties) but the Jets still were able to get two versatile safeties that could be foundation players for their defense for years.   

There isn't anything wrong with that.    Jets perceived the safety position a weakness, and they attacked that area in the draft With two early picks.     

A lot of Jet fans might not like those non sexy picks, but eventually they will come to appreciate those as pretty good moves on their part.

They had to do something to fix a secondary that couldn't cover anyone. Both Maye and Adams will be solid players for the next several years and Maye will break the second round bust jinx.

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16 hours ago, Harlemnite1 said:

Jets have gone BPA for the last 10 years and its gotten them nowhere. Its lazy scouting and only fits if you are picking at the back end of the draft every year. The Jets also have a problem taking high-end talent only from the defensive side of the ball. It made the roster lopsided and that is why you have Bowles kicking field goals down 38.0.

In certain that if they just followed kipers mock drafts, theyd have better players

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12 hours ago, Harlemnite1 said:

Jets have gone BPA for the last 10 years and its gotten them nowhere. Its lazy scouting and only fits if you are picking at the back end of the draft every year. The Jets also have a problem taking high-end talent only from the defensive side of the ball. It made the roster lopsided and that is why you have Bowles kicking field goals down 38.0.

I certainly am not complaining about Leonard WIlliams or Jamal Adams but it's amazing to me that no matter how much defense we draft, we're still never a shutdown type defense. The Pats always seem to be able to put up 38 against us.

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4 hours ago, nyjunc said:

that is a great point.  how many coaches walked out on us?  rex loved it here and never wanted to leave, Idzik destroyed his NYJ career.

Rex is sh*t anyway

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I certainly am not complaining about Leonard WIlliams or Jamal Adams but it's amazing to me that no matter how much defense we draft, we're still never a shutdown type defense. The Pats always seem to be able to put up 38 against us.


That like saying ... i really like my ferrari ... but this aston martin keeps beating me


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We harp so much on picking the same position twice in a row we're not focusing on the player in question. Seeing as how he was a good value pick, has a decent head on his shoulders and indeed fulfilled a need I'll just be happy we chose a credible and promising young player.

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13 hours ago, Harlemnite1 said:

Thank you, I'm glad someone else feels that way. Rex wanted to be here too unlike Groh, Bellicheck, and Edwards. All Rex needed was a competent GM.

Rex was a piece of crap at coach that actually got worse the longer he coached. But you have to congratulate Woody for scouring the earth to find someone as bad.

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32 minutes ago, Tony MaC said:

We harp so much on picking the same position twice in a row we're not focusing on the player in question. Seeing as how he was a good value pick, has a decent head on his shoulders and indeed fulfilled a need I'll just be happy we chose a credible and promising young player.

The next Eric McMillan. 

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