Jump to content

new offensive coordinator John Morton,.. Metallica & QB's ~ ~ ~


kelly

Recommended Posts

It could be a long time before Christian Hackenberg gets a shot, if ever

Todd Bowles finally has ended his silly shell game, declaring the quarterback under shell No. 2 is Bryce Petty, not Christian Hackenberg. Just as everybody suspected.

Why Bowles dragged it out for two weeks is anyone's guess, but let's put that aside and focus on the bigger story -- the ramifications. By declaring that Petty "has been the two" all along and will remain Josh McCown's primary backup for the foreseeable future, Bowles has created a scenario where Hackenberg could spend most of the season on the bench -- maybe the entire year.

That would be bitterly disappointing for the Jets because one of the goals this season is -- was? -- to get a long look at Hackenberg, determining whether he's the quarterback of the future.

I think we know the answer to that question.

More importantly, I think the New York Jets know the answer. They probably knew it a year ago, but it was confirmed by Hackenberg's struggles in the preseason. Not only did he miss an opportunity to claim the starting job, but he also lost the backup job.

He was 0-2 in the Summer of Hack.

As a result, Hackenberg is at the bottom of the depth chart for the second straight year, certainly not what the Jets had in mind when they made him a second-round pick in 2016. Barring injuries, the only way he will start a game is if Bowles plays late-season leap frog, moving him over Petty just for the sake of seeing him in a game. By then, the season will be long gone.The moment he turns to Hackenberg, Bowles is basically announcing he's moving on to 2018. No coach can do that in September or October and expect to maintain credibility in the locker room. I'm sure the pro-tanking faction of the fan base wants to see Hackenberg now, but what's the point? Why play a liability? Why buy a stock if you know the price is going to drop?

Trying to be kind, Bowles said Hackenberg is the No. 3 quarterback because "he’s the newest of the bunch. The other two guys have played in the league. Bryce played the year before him. [Hackenberg is] learning a new offense. He made progress. It doesn't say anything bad about him. He made progress. His chance will come, and he'll have time to fight again."Bowles sounds like he's committed to Petty as the No. 2, as he should be. He outplayed Hackenberg in the preseason and deserves to be the Next Man Up. The only reason Petty was inactive in Week 1, according to the coach, was because his recently sprained knee wasn't 100 percent. If Bowles decides to bench in McCown in the coming weeks, it would be for Petty, not Hackenberg. Nothing in practice, short of an injury, could change that.

All things considered, McCown has done a credible job leading the offense, but another couple of losses will fuel the pro-Petty campaign. Personally, I wouldn't consider a change until Week 5 at the earliest. If they're going to Cleveland at 0-4, it could be the right time to insert Petty, depending on how the offense is playing.It's probably not a matter of "if," but "when" for Petty, who admittedly failed to capitalize on his opportunity late last season. There are shortcomings in his game -- i.e. reading coverages -- but he's a resilient competitor. He'll get a second chance. The bigger question is, will Hackenberg get a first?

Bowles was asked if Hackenberg can be a productive starter, and his answer -- or non-answer -- was telling.

"He has to work his way up there," he said. "He has a lot of football to play, and he has a lot of chances to grow. So as he gains experience, we'll see."

>      http://www.espn.com/blog/new-york-jets/post/_/id/71379/it-could-be-a-long-time-before-christian-hackenberg-gets-a-shot-if-ever

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Replies 195
  • Created
  • Last Reply
77.3

TOTAL QBR VS. RAIDERS

NO. 3 OVERALL, WEEK 3


It might be a little surprising to see a quarterback who lost 45-20 come in with the third-highest Total QBR of Week 2. But it's important to remember that Total QBR is a rate stat, not a counting stat, and it is opponent-adjusted. McCown had two big plays while the game was still close that boosted his QBR. First, he hit Jermaine Kearse for a 34-yard touchdown on a third down to cut the Jets' deficit to 14-7. Second, he scrambled for 22 yards on a third-and-18 to keep alive a drive that ended with a Jets field goal to get to 21-13. That was the high point, however, as the Jets' defense allowed the next 28 points. Overall, McCown's solid play on third down (see first pass plot chart below) helped propel him near the top of this list.

rest of above article : 

>  http://www.espn.com/espn/feature/story/_/id/20748744/nfl-best-worst-quarterbacks-week-2-2017

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Josh McCown's solid start a good news-bad news situation for Jets

-- Turns out the old dude still has some life left in that well-traveled right arm. Josh McCown, 38 years young, won his first start since Oct. 11, 2015. His signature moment was a 69-yard bomb to Robby Anderson, which resembled Ken O'Brien-to-Wesley Walker from a bygone era -- and no, his arm didn't fall off. McCown kept slinging, endearing himself to his New York Jets teammates and coaches with their first win of the season.Don't look now, but McCown is playing well -- a 70 percent completion rate and a 91.3 passer rating through three games. In fact, he's playing so well that he's messing up the master plan at quarterback -- or a least the plan everybody assumed would unfold. He was supposed to be a short bridge to Bryce Petty or Christian Hackenberg or, pardon the mixed metaphor, just a loosely attached Band-Aid.

It's not working out that way. After dominating the Miami Dolphins 20-6 on Sunday, the Jets are 1-2, with winnable games upcoming against the Jacksonville Jaguars (2-1) and Cleveland Browns (0-3). If this keeps up, it might be a while before we see Petty or Hackenberg, barring an injury."I thought he was very efficient," Jets coach Todd Bowles said of McCown. "Josh has been playing well for the last three weeks. He controlled the offense. He sees things. He's playing smart football."

McCown is the ideal quarterback for the Jets' rebuilding season because he's unselfish and intelligent, meaning he can lead the young players and teach them at the same time. He's also an eternal optimist, a must on a team that will encounter its share of adversity. He's the anti-Jay Cutler, who was so demoralized by Sunday's beatdown that he started flinging passes off his back foot, acting like he wanted to get back to South Florida as soon as possible. It certainly worked out well in the offseason, when the Jets ended up with McCown over Cutler.

Facing a stout defensive front, McCown completed 18 of 23 passes for 249 yards and one touchdown, while committing no turnovers. He won't excite too many fantasy owners with those kind of stat lines, but the Jets don't live in a fantasy world. Their reality is rebuilding, taking small steps, week by week. His touchdown pass to Anderson, which came after a big play was negated by a Wesley Johnson holding penalty, was a shining example of turning a negative into a positive.

"I think that's good for us as we build," McCown said. "Those are kind of bricks in the process that you stack because it grows you."

Some might say the Jets are wasting time with McCown, claiming every snap he takes is one less snap for Petty or Hackenberg. That's a bunch of hooey. His ability to function as a competent quarterback allows the offense to develop in its new system. You wouldn't get that with Petty or Hackenberg.At some point, Bowles has to let one (or both) start games, because the Jets need an evaluation of Petty and Hackenberg before next spring's draft. But that's no longer as imperative as it seemed at the start of training camp. Hackenberg showed in the preseason he isn't close to being ready, and Petty isn't viewed by the organization as the long-term answer.

For now, and for longer than anyone envisioned, the Jets' mantra is: "In Josh We Trust."

>     http://www.espn.com/blog/new-york-jets/post/_/id/71549/josh-mccowns-solid-start-a-good-news-bad-news-situation-for-jets

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • 2 weeks later...

DESTINATION COUSINS

Kirk Cousins could become the NFL's highest-paid player in 2018. You like that?! Here are all the places the QB could land.

By Mike Sando

~ ~ New York Jets

Why it could work

The Jets have no plausible solution at quarterback, which means all options need to be on the table. Cousins would stabilize a position that has seen Josh McCown, Ryan Fitzpatrick, Geno Smith and Mark Sanchez as primary starters over the past five-plus seasons.

Why it couldn't work

The Jets, despite a better-than-expected start to the season, could draft early enough to target one of the top quarterbacks in the draft.

rest of above article : 

>     http://www.espn.com/espn/feature/story/_/id/20978049/nfl-destination-kirk-cousins-nine-teams-washington-redskins-quarterback-play-2018-free-agent-market

Link to comment
Share on other sites

-- The New York Jets wasted two timeouts in the third quarter Sunday because the play clock was running down, and that's something they can't blame on referee Tony Corrente and the NFL replay command center.

"We have to get the calls in earlier," running back Matt Forte said after the 24-17 loss to the New England Patriots.

He's right.

In both situations, the Jets didn't get to the line of scrimmage until the 10-second mark on the play clock -- actually, it appeared to be eight or nine seconds on the second one. In other words, they used 30 seconds (give or take) for the process of calling the play, relaying it to quarterback Josh McCown and calling it in the huddle.

That's inexcusable.

It's not like they made wholesome substitutions. In fact, they made only one change in each situation -- ArDarius Stewart replaced Robby Anderson at wide receiver on the first play and Jeremy Kerley replaced Anderson on the second. Everything else stayed the same.Coach Todd Bowles said, "We can't botch things up and let the clock run down." He insisted it wasn't a communications issue, adding that "we'll discuss that in the coaching room."John Morton is a first-time offensive coordinator who operates a West Coast offense, known for its wordy play calls. A typical play call is 10 to 12 words, and it must go from Morton (in the coaches booth) to quarterbacks coach Jeremy Bates (on the sideline) to McCown.

The irony is that Morton stressed tempo in training camp, trying to teach the offense to play at a faster pace, but it hasn't worked out that way. In fact, the Jets have one of the slowest-moving offenses in the NFL. They average 30.8 seconds per play in terms of time of possession, the second-slowest mark. The Kansas City Chiefs average 31.1 seconds, per ESPN Stats & Information. (In case you're wondering, the San Francisco 49ers are the fastest at 25.3.)This probably will be a point of emphasis this week for the Jets. Last week, they tweaked the practice regimen to help combat the slow starts -- and it worked, as they scored on their first and third possessions.

Now it's time to focus on tempo.

>     http://www.espn.com/blog/new-york-jets/post/_/id/72157/jets-waste-timeouts-because-offense-moves-at-glacial-pace

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Rich Cimini ESPN Staff Writer 

Jets film review: I had no problem with the decision to try for a game-winning drive with 47 seconds left and the ball at the 15 (and three timeouts), but the play call was terrible. And so was the execution by QB Josh McCown. The Jets should've tried a safe play on first down -- a draw or a pass to RB Matt Forte. Miami played a four-man box, so a run probably would've picked up decent yardage. The middle was open, so a short throw there would've picked up a nice chunk. Instead, McCown threw into the teeth of the defense and was intercepted. Miami dropped eight and rushed three.

>     http://www.espn.com/nfl/team/_/name/nyj/new-york-jets

Link to comment
Share on other sites

28 minutes ago, kelly said:

just an fyi.. 

Carson Wentz and Jared Goff are making every QB-needy team like the Jets jealous

>     http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/jets/carson-wentz-jared-goff-making-qb-needy-team-jealous-article-1.3614609

I will not read that article. But whatever it says is a non-factor. It was reported that MAC tried to trade up, it didn't work out. Move along.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

You have to take a big chance on a FQB, and you have to get it right. 

It looks like Mariota was a good pick.  Winston has looked like a good pick, but also appears to be a bit of a nut job.

Hopefully for the Bears, they got it right with Trubisky.

It seems like more teams are getting it right lately.  There was a time when alot of these first round QBs still busted.  

But for teams that know how to analyze a QB, finding one seems doable.]

Mac-you are up.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

-- A check of the weekly stock watch, risers and fallers from the New York Jets' 15-10 loss to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers (pre-film review) :

FOUR FALLERS

~ ~ QB Josh McCown -- It's a good thing the Jets have a bye week because McCown, 38, will need the extra time to recover from the beating. This was reminiscent of his 2014 season with the Bucs, when he was sacked once every 10 dropbacks. Under pressure, McCown produced his worst statistical game since the Week 4 win over the Jacksonville Jaguars. He missed some open receivers and was intercepted on a deep overthrow. He also failed to hit the 60-percent completion mark for the first time. The Jets were an unsightly 3-for-15 on third down, and McCown has to own some of that. The Bucs probably had a good read on the Jets' offense because they faced the New Orleans Saints last week. The Saints and Jets run similar systems, the link being coordinator John Morton, a former New Orleans assistant.

rest of above article : 

>     http://www.espn.com/blog/new-york-jets/post/_/id/72864/jets-qb-josh-mccown-the-human-pinata-hit-14-times-by-bucs

Link to comment
Share on other sites

-- Even though his team is a playoff long shot, New York Jets coach Todd Bowles said he has no plans to audition Bryce Petty and/or Christian Hackenberg at quarterback. Josh McCown will remain the starter.

 

rest of above article : 

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/21403229/todd-bowles-says-josh-mccown-remain-new-york-jets-top-qb

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.


×
×
  • Create New...