dbatesman Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 Just now, T0mShane said: What no this is a rebuild everybody knows that no tehy were all good trades, because draft picks, are not worth as much as established veterans, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 1 minute ago, dbatesman said: tehy were all good trades, because draft picks, are not worth as much as established veterans, Proven turds > Lottery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 Some were good trades, getting Brandon Marshall for a 5th was a great trade and he produced big time for us. As for a look at the trade, DOES THIS TEAM EVERY F'ING MAKE ONE MOVE WITH OFFENSE IN MIND? Todd frigging Bowles is running this team Mac is looking more and more like a quiet version of Tanny just like Bowles is the quiet version of Rex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 2 minutes ago, dbatesman said: tehy were all good trades, because draft picks, are not worth as much as established veterans, forth round picks are worthless when you think about it btw John Idzik was so bad he wasted like twenty sixth rounders omg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 Pryor just got another concussion getting into his uBer headed for Cleveland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers9 Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 This is a good trade for Mac. He got rid of a player they might have released anyways and in return got someone they know who can rill a role. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 Like a thrift store for safeties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 Just now, Rangers9 said: This is a good trade for Mac. He got rid of a player they might have released anyways and in return got someone they know who can rill a role. what role is that? who sits? Last year's 1st round pick or David Harris? How does this make ANY sense? $3,800,000 for a back-up ILB? Good God, this is just dumb. I'm thinking that there must be something we all don't know. Perhaps there is some moderate-serious injury among the ILBs that we don't know about yet? Only then could there be any logic in this whatsoever. Maybe Harris is set to announce retirement? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunnie Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 This trade has zero negative impact ... pryor was out anyway ... davis will get a shot to compete and will be cut if he can't ... the people reacting negatively to this trade are just being angry to be angry. David is slightly better than Pryor The biggest thing being ignored is that we are re-affirming cleveland as a trade partner. Cleveland is a team that stockpiles draft picks. It's good to keep them in the fold. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gen X Jet Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 Very fake news? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 1 minute ago, T0mShane said: forth round picks are worthless when you think about it btw John Idzik was so bad he wasted like twenty sixth rounders omg Dude Mac owned the draft by picking up a sh*t ton of 6th round picks who were all steals. Quincy Enunwa, Brandon Shell, Deon Simon, Charone Peak, Lac Edwards are emerging talents but when you have a chance to get an ILB like Demario Davis, you do it and dont ask questions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 1 hour ago, Bleedin Green said: It's certainly... interesting. The Jets obviously had no more interest / need for Pryor, so can't be surprised with making a move there. The return of Davis is... something. I guess that tells you about how the Jets really feel about their LB corps right now. Curious if they are bringing Davis back simply as a backup and/or competition for Lee, or if this could possibly mean the end of Harris. Davis gets $3.8M this year. That's too much for a back-up unless Harris or Lee is injured or Harris is retiring. There has to be something we don't know. Otherwise it is nonsensical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers9 Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 2 minutes ago, Dcat said: what role is that? who sits? Last year's 1st round pick or David Harris? How does this make ANY sense? $3,800,000 for a back-up ILB? Good God, this is just dumb. I'm thinking that there must be something we all don't know. Perhaps there is some moderate-serious injury among the ILBs that we don't know about yet? Only then could there be any logic in this whatsoever. Maybe Harris is set to announce retirement? Most Jets fans thought when he left last year it was a minus. That we were better off with him. I don't know the salary details of this trade but aren't they getting rid of Pryor's salary. I assume it might be a wash money wise (not sure) but in that case they just prefer Davis over Pryor. And there was some bad blood between Pryor and the org. The team is better off without him. And Davis isn't a bad player at all. I don't see how you can kill Mac on this one. We got something instead of nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 2 minutes ago, JiF said: Dude Mac owned the draft by picking up a sh*t ton of 6th round picks who were all steals. Quincy Enunwa, Brandon Shell, Deon Simon, Charone Peak, Lac Edwards are emerging talents but when you have a chance to get an ILB like Demario Davis, you do it and dont ask questions. Enunwa was all Idzik baby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 Just now, Beerfish said: Enunwa was all Idzik baby. Oh yeah, what round was he taken in? Couldnt have been the lottery round, was it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 Just now, Rangers9 said: Most Jets fans thought when he left last year it was a minus. That we were better off with him. I don't know the salary details of this trade but aren't they getting rid of Pryor's salary. I assume it might be a wash money wise (not sure) but in that case they just prefer Davis over Pryor. And there was some bad blood between Pryor and the org. The team is better off without him. And Davis isn't a bad player at all. I don't see how you can kill Mac on this one. We got something instead of nothing. Eh? You have it exactly opposite, most fans either shrugged or were happy because Davis suck. He is not a great run stopper and can;t cover a thing. The jets drafted a LB at 20 because Davis was so terrible, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 2 hours ago, MDL_JET said: Hope of a pick. Not flashbacks of Davis getting burnt and beaten for TDs. Aha! Now I get it. We acquired Davis so that Lee won't look quitee as bad as he did last year next to Harris. Shrewd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers9 Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 3 minutes ago, Beerfish said: Eh? You have it exactly opposite, most fans either shrugged or were happy because Davis suck. He is not a great run stopper and can;t cover a thing. The jets drafted a LB at 20 because Davis was so terrible, Davis signed as a FA with the Browns and the Jets decided not to match salary. He has some speed and it was more of a money decision. He can have a role on this team and be effective. This is becoming a role players league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 3 minutes ago, JiF said: Oh yeah, what round was he taken in? Couldnt have been the lottery round, was it? Eununwa was a 6th rounder, Idzik Shell was a 5th rounder Peake, Simon and Edwards were 7th rounders Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gas2No99 Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 12 minutes ago, Dcat said: what role is that? who sits? Last year's 1st round pick or David Harris? How does this make ANY sense? $3,800,000 for a back-up ILB? Good God, this is just dumb. I'm thinking that there must be something we all don't know. Perhaps there is some moderate-serious injury among the ILBs that we don't know about yet? Only then could there be any logic in this whatsoever. Maybe Harris is set to announce retirement? It's actually a VERY $ SMART move. Just read below 11 minutes ago, Dunnie said: This trade has zero negative impact ... pryor was out anyway ... davis will get a shot to compete and will be cut if he can't ... the people reacting negatively to this trade are just being angry to be angry. CORRECT! 10 minutes ago, Dcat said: Davis gets $3.8M this year. That's too much for a back-up unless Harris or Lee is injured or Harris is retiring. There has to be something we don't know. Otherwise it is nonsensical. Trading Calvin Pryor is a good financial move for the Jets. Instead of eating his $1.6 million salary, which is fully guaranteed, they found a team (the Browns) willing to pick it up. Demario Davis is due to make $3.7 million in the final year of his contract, but it's not guaranteed. They could cut him before the season and not have any cap hit. The Jets were planning to cut Pryor, so they're thrilled that someone was willing to take his contract. So the Jets don't have $1.6M in DEAD cap space. Davis' contract is NOT guaranteed so he can be cut, if necessary, but he's ALSO a FA after this season who may, yet again, parlay into a comp pick down the road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 Just now, Rangers9 said: Davis signed as a FA with the Browns and the Jets decided not to match salary. He has some speed and it was more of a money decision. He can have a role on this team and be effective. This is becoming a role players league. What roll does he play? Stinks at run stopping can't cover anything, suspect instincts. Expensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 1 minute ago, Beerfish said: Eununwa was a 6th rounder, Idzik Shell was a 5th rounder Peake, Simon and Edwards were 7th rounders See. Davis > 6th and 7th round picks. GO MAC!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 Another locker room guy tho - I feel like a broken record - but, that sh*t must've been a ******* catastrophe way beyond what we know about last year. Way beyond. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers9 Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 2 minutes ago, Beerfish said: What roll does he play? Stinks at run stopping can't cover anything, suspect instincts. Expensive. The coaches know the player and wanted him back. They could have just released Pryor or maybe received a conditional pick. This isn't a big deal but all teams need backups to cover injuries or on STs and specific downs. Of course he can have a role on this defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 2 minutes ago, Gas2No99 said: Trading Calvin Pryor is a good financial move for the Jets. Instead of eating his $1.6 million salary, which is fully guaranteed, they found a team (the Browns) willing to pick it up. Demario Davis is due to make $3.7 million in the final year of his contract, but it's not guaranteed. They could cut him before the season and not have any cap hit. The Jets were planning to cut Pryor, so they're thrilled that someone was willing to take his contract. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 2 minutes ago, Gas2No99 said: It's actually a VERY $ SMART move. Just read below CORRECT! Trading Calvin Pryor is a good financial move for the Jets. Instead of eating his $1.6 million salary, which is fully guaranteed, they found a team (the Browns) willing to pick it up. Demario Davis is due to make $3.7 million in the final year of his contract, but it's not guaranteed. They could cut him before the season and not have any cap hit. The Jets were planning to cut Pryor, so they're thrilled that someone was willing to take his contract. So the Jets don't have $1.6M in DEAD cap space. Davis' contract is NOT guaranteed so he can be cut, if necessary, but he's ALSO a FA after this season who may, yet again, parlay into a comp pick down the road. Look At The Bright Side: He Can Be Cut Rather Easily ~On Mike Maccagnan's management philosophy~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurnleyJet Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 Thanks Idzik, Geez and we could have and Derek Carr. He must be the worst GM in the history of the NFL. To be fair I'd sooner have Richard Pryor playing Safety for the Jets and the guys been gone 12 years, and weighed about 150 IBS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 Just now, BurnleyJet said: Thanks Idzik, Geez and we could have and Derek Carr. He must be the worst GM in the history of the NFL. To be fair I'd sooner have Richard Pryor playing Safety for the Jets and he guys been gone 12 years and weighed about 150 IBS Your avatar becomes more relevant daily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gas2No99 Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 Just now, T0mShane said: Look At The Bright Side: He Can Be Cut Rather Easily ~On Mike Maccagnan's management philosophy~ It's called Asset Management. They converted what was a guaranteed loss of $1.6M and parlayed it into a veteran player familiar with the system who adds depth & has NO guaranteed money. In addition, he is a FA after '17 and MAY parlay into a Comp pick down the road if he survives the season and signs elsewhere. Go ponder that over your "snifter of Chianti". LOL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurnleyJet Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 Just now, Integrity28 said: Your avatar becomes more relevant daily. Actually I thought the Browns where getting better, this move makes them worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 Just now, BurnleyJet said: Actually I thought the Browns where getting better, this move makes them worse. This move makes them still the Browns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 5 minutes ago, Integrity28 said: Another locker room guy tho - I feel like a broken record - but, that sh*t must've been a ******* catastrophe way beyond what we know about last year. Way beyond. It's an amazing coincidence that everyone in the locker room turned into grieving malcontents. Must have been a virus or something, completely unrelated to the head coach being an outright mush who's been coddling malcontents since he signed on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 8 minutes ago, Gas2No99 said: It's actually a VERY $ SMART move. Just read below CORRECT! Trading Calvin Pryor is a good financial move for the Jets. Instead of eating his $1.6 million salary, which is fully guaranteed, they found a team (the Browns) willing to pick it up. Demario Davis is due to make $3.7 million in the final year of his contract, but it's not guaranteed. They could cut him before the season and not have any cap hit. The Jets were planning to cut Pryor, so they're thrilled that someone was willing to take his contract. So the Jets don't have $1.6M in DEAD cap space. Davis' contract is NOT guaranteed so he can be cut, if necessary, but he's ALSO a FA after this season who may, yet again, parlay into a comp pick down the road. Your logic is that it is a good move because they can cut Davis without a cap hit, but you want to credit them with a potential comp pick for paying the guy $4M? I'm willing to bet any team would prefer a $4M player to any comp pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOJOTOWNSELL Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 I just don't get the hate for this trade......we are going to cut Pryor and we got a starting caliber player back for him.....whats the issue? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 1 minute ago, T0mShane said: It's an amazing coincidence that everyone in the locker room turned into grieving malcontents. Must have been a virus or something, completely unrelated to the head coach being an outright mush who's been coddling malcontents since he signed on here. Don't you have some posts we can necro about how he was going to be such a welcome change from player's coach Rex? Parcells disciple and all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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