UnitedWhofans 2,949 Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 A completely young roster. A potentially high draft pick. 8 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post kdels62 8,780 Posted June 14, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted June 14, 2017 Thanks for the new perspective on a topic that hasn't been discussed as nauseum. 10 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
OH THE PAIN 436 Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 9 minutes ago, UnitedWhofans said: A completely young roster. A potentially high draft pick. But , not at the same prices . This is a money grab by Mr Magoo Johnson . 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
UnitedWhofans 2,949 Posted June 14, 2017 Author Share Posted June 14, 2017 Just now, OH THE PAIN said: But , not at the same prices . This is a money grab by Mr Magoo Johnson . TBH, I don't give a **** about prices. I never go to games, I don't know why people go to games at all at those prices. That's just Caveat Emptor 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
OH THE PAIN 436 Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 1 minute ago, UnitedWhofans said: I never go to games, I don't know why people go to games at all at those prices. Then , no one cares what you think . 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
UnitedWhofans 2,949 Posted June 14, 2017 Author Share Posted June 14, 2017 Just now, OH THE PAIN said: Then , no one cares what you think . Listen, if you fell like you're getting cheated at prices by the owner. DON'T ******* GO. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
OH THE PAIN 436 Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 Just now, UnitedWhofans said: Listen, if you fell like you're getting cheated at prices by the owner. DON'T ******* GO. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
56mehl56 3,746 Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 5 minutes ago, OH THE PAIN said: But , not at the same prices . This is a money grab by Mr Magoo Johnson . Then why do you even support the team at all - go total boycot Quote Link to post Share on other sites
OH THE PAIN 436 Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 Just now, 56mehl56 said: Then why do you even support the team at all - go total boycot Lance Mehl would never boycott . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BurnleyJet 9,020 Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 33 minutes ago, OH THE PAIN said: Lance Mehl would never boycott . 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HighPitch 2,626 Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 6 hours ago, kdels62 said: Thanks for the new perspective on a topic that hasn't been discussed as nauseum. Yea really. Great insight thank you 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
#27TheDominator 211,244 Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 1 hour ago, UnitedWhofans said: TBH, I don't give a **** about prices. I never go to games, I don't know why people go to games at all at those prices. That's just Caveat Emptor ^ Tier Z fan 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post Tinstar 2,738 Posted June 14, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted June 14, 2017 I have come to find out that there's a section of Jet fans that want whatever it is that is opposite to the efforts of the regime in power . The reason is simply that they can do a better job . 8 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Integrity28 76,056 Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 Derp vs. Derp thread potential 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
joewilly12 26,042 Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 2 hours ago, UnitedWhofans said: A completely young roster. A potentially high draft pick. Draft picks are no guarantee here.....where you been the last 48 years. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jgb 27,985 Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 Draft picks are no guarantee here.....where you been the last 48 years. Ding ding ding correct answer Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rangerous 4,230 Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 1 hour ago, joewilly12 said: Draft picks are no guarantee here.....where you been the last 48 years. okay, pretty true generality but the same can be said of just about every free agent player that ever existed. but since the nfl is a business if you're going to get a sucky player you may as pay as little as possible. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thadude 934 Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 Yeah we all wanted another 4-12 season after having a 4-12 season two years ago. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Crusher 222,501 Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 7 hours ago, UnitedWhofans said: A completely young roster. A potentially high draft pick. I want Atlanta Falcons priced concessions. Rest of you guys worried about players. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JoJoTownsell1 11,555 Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 8 hours ago, UnitedWhofans said: A completely young roster. A potentially high draft pick. They wanted it, they just can't stand to give woody or even macc the credit for having the balls to finally do it. They're afraid it might work. Yet they're still diehard jets fans. It's an interesting psychological experiment. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LionelRichie 10,140 Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 8 hours ago, UnitedWhofans said: A completely young roster. A potentially high draft pick. Cut McCown and yes, this is exactly what we wanted 2 years ago. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JetFaninMI 4,152 Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 2 hours ago, JoJoTownsell1 said: They wanted it, they just can't stand to give woody or even macc the credit for having the balls to finally do it. They're afraid it might work. Yet they're still diehard jets fans. It's an interesting psychological experiment. SOJJ. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JetFaninMI 4,152 Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 9 hours ago, Tinstar said: I have come to find out that there's a section of Jet fans that want whatever it is that is opposite to the efforts of the regime in power . The reason is simply that they can do a better job . I don't disagree. Its just that this regime has shown little to get excited about. I ask you do you really trust Mac with all that cap pace and a high draft pick next year? Especially if Hack shows even a little progress I can just see him drafting the BPA (as long as its not a QB)and going apesh*t in FA like he has done in the past. Prove me wrong Mac. Until then well we can only wait and see. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jgb 27,985 Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 4 hours ago, thadude said: Yeah we all wanted another 4-12 season after having a 4-12 season two years ago. 4-12 would be an epic failure and put the top QBs out of reach. It will also probably happen as the Jets can't even tank properly. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jeremy2020 5,572 Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 There is no such thing as tanking in the NFL. The league isn't built for it. Rosters are too big and the likelihood of drafting a QB is..low. 2012 had Andrew Luck which is the last sure thing starter to be drafted. That's 16 1st round QBs and 1 sure thing. Even if you go with QBs currently starting then you have Tannehill, Winston, Mariota, Wentz, and Luck. That's 5 out of 16 1st round QBs. That's a 30% chance you get someone who starts consistently. "Tanking" means winning 2 games max for a 30% chance to hopefully get someone who isn't terrible and then wait 3 years to find out. Fans want a plan. Tanking is not a plan, it's playing the lottery. 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
#27TheDominator 211,244 Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 9 hours ago, JoJoTownsell1 said: They wanted it, they just can't stand to give woody or even macc the credit for having the balls to finally do it. They're afraid it might work. Yet they're still diehard jets fans. It's an interesting psychological experiment. Finally? Isn't this what we did in 2014? 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TeddEY 263,479 Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 17 hours ago, OH THE PAIN said: Then , no one cares what you think . That he doesn't go to games is not the reason why no one cares what he thinks. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TeddEY 263,479 Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 13 hours ago, JoJoTownsell1 said: They wanted it, they just can't stand to give woody or even macc the credit for having the balls to finally do it. They're afraid it might work. Yet they're still diehard jets fans. It's an interesting psychological experiment. The real psychological experiment here would be to figure out why the actual point of "SOJFs," as you've called them, has been explained to you, whofans, tinstar, et al. so many times, yet remains so elusive to you. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thadude 934 Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 5 hours ago, jgb said: 4-12 would be an epic failure and put the top QBs out of reach. It will also probably happen as the Jets can't even tank properly. Well that's going to be our record after McCown wins a couple games. You guys, this is not a tank job Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thadude 934 Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 12 minutes ago, #27TheDominator said: Finally? Isn't this what we did in 2014? And 2005, and 2007, and 1996 and 1995 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dbatesman 48,841 Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 36 minutes ago, #27TheDominator said: Finally? Isn't this what we did in 2014? No that was different 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jgb 27,985 Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 There is no such thing as tanking in the NFL. The league isn't built for it. Rosters are too big and the likelihood of drafting a QB is..low. 2012 had Andrew Luck which is the last sure thing starter to be drafted. That's 16 1st round QBs and 1 sure thing. Even if you go with QBs currently starting then you have Tannehill, Winston, Mariota, Wentz, and Luck. That's 5 out of 16 1st round QBs. That's a 30% chance you get someone who starts consistently. "Tanking" means winning 2 games max for a 30% chance to hopefully get someone who isn't terrible and then wait 3 years to find out. Fans want a plan. Tanking is not a plan, it's playing the lottery. I'd take "monkey with crayon" over "Jets GM" if my life depended on a first round pick not busting. A lottery sounds like an improvement in odds. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JoJoTownsell1 11,555 Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 35 minutes ago, #27TheDominator said: Finally? Isn't this what we did in 2014? So you considered the Chris Johnson, Decker, Vick and Giacomini signings as an attempt to tank/rebuild with youth? Just because we sucked in 2014, doesn't mean we tanked. We sucked last year also, but clearly that wasn't their goal. It's also completely different when tank/rebuild with a clear target (Darnold) in sight. This year's vision is very clear. Develop the kids. Hopefully Hack emerges as a franchise QB,if not we will be in very good position to land Darnold or one of the other 2 or 3 Qbs that look like they can emerge as potential franchise QBs. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JoJoTownsell1 11,555 Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 26 minutes ago, thadude said: And 2005, and 2007, and 1996 and 1995 Another poster that doesn't understand the difference between having a bad team and tanking/rebuilding. One is intentional, one is not. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thadude 934 Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 4 minutes ago, dbatesman said: No that was different How? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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