CanadaSteve Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 I have liked most of what Mac has done drafting wise, but this was the ONE pick I think that was a HUGE mistake. We had a shot at a QB who could have sat a year, like Hack did. He might bust, but we need to take QB's until we find one. This might cost Mac dearly if this kid lights it up next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 On 7/7/2017 at 1:52 PM, kmnj said: this will be another case of jet fans knowing better Lynch will be the day one starter for the broncos and will be a very good qb in this league jets passed on him and now we will be stuck with a train wreck in hackenberg until next years draft And you know this how? Nothing he has done up to now says this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet_Engine1 Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 Whut up, brah? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantasy Island Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 1 hour ago, CanadaSteve said: I have liked most of what Mac has done drafting wise, but this was the ONE pick I think that was a HUGE mistake. We had a shot at a QB who could have sat a year, like Hack did. He might bust, but we need to take QB's until we find one. This might cost Mac dearly if this kid lights it up next year. Mac and cheese cant draft for $%^&. His only good pick fell into his lap. When fans and opponents know you don't have a QB and you don't go after the best QBs whether it be in the draft or FA, you are a moron. Our GM is a moron. And the HC is a joke too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyLV Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 6 hours ago, T0mShane said: Considering the GM that drafted him has now consciously set out to crash a season in hopes of drafting a QB next year, that might be a clue as to how much faith the fans should put into Hack. but that is complete bulllsh*t. The media loves to state that the Jets are intentionally tanking, but the reality is that all of the moves made a TON of sense for the Jets both from a cap standpoint and from a talent standpoint. Every one of them was the right thing to do and none of them were done to tank. I am not sure that any of them actually make us worse.at all, we might be better. So please stop the tanking narrative it is just not true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy2020 Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 8 minutes ago, johnnysd said: but that is complete bulllsh*t. The media loves to state that the Jets are intentionally tanking, but the reality is that all of the moves made a TON of sense for the Jets both from a cap standpoint and from a talent standpoint. Every one of them was the right thing to do and none of them were done to tank. I am not sure that any of them actually make us worse.at all, we might be better. So please stop the tanking narrative it is just not true. So mac just happened to build a crappy team while trying to build a good team? That's MUCH more reassuring... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyLV Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 44 minutes ago, jeremy2020 said: So mac just happened to build a crappy team while trying to build a good team? That's MUCH more reassuring... No, he held on to a crappy team one season too long, and inherited a cap situation where he had to spend money. I am not sold on Mac but the roster ,moves this year make sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 Why are people still bringing this up?... I mean, I know why I would - but I haven't. It's too painful to revisit. Just bury it already... until he's leading the broncos in meaningful games in January... (something i feel is a likely outcome) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 10 hours ago, T0mShane said: Considering the GM that drafted him has now consciously set out to crash a season in hopes of drafting a QB next year, that might be a clue as to how much faith the fans should put into Hack. Sure he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 17 hours ago, Larz said: meh. As much as I hate to admit it, the guys who were cut were really just either old, expensive or annoying I don't see this as a pure tank job as much as it was just a needed purge. Add to that the Adams pick and I think they really just want to change the culture and start from scratch seriously, what are the odds they just go 1-15 ? we all know they will beat the chargers to get to 6 wins and the 6th pick again. the 3rd best QB next year will probably still be better than any of this years QB's that's what I tell myself to fall asleep anyway 10 hours ago, johnnysd said: but that is complete bulllsh*t. The media loves to state that the Jets are intentionally tanking, but the reality is that all of the moves made a TON of sense for the Jets both from a cap standpoint and from a talent standpoint. Every one of them was the right thing to do and none of them were done to tank. I am not sure that any of them actually make us worse.at all, we might be better. So please stop the tanking narrative it is just not true. I must say, this new spin that "Maccagnan is a good guy who just went on a bender for two years but is turning the corner and is cleaning up his life" is some really creative stuff, fellas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 8 hours ago, Paradis said: Why are people still bringing this up?... I mean, I know why I would - but I haven't. It's too painful to revisit. Just bury it already... until he's leading the broncos in meaningful games in January... (something i feel is a likely outcome) Stages of grief. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thadude Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 14 hours ago, Fantasy Island said: Mac and cheese cant draft for $%^&. His only good pick fell into his lap. When fans and opponents know you don't have a QB and you don't go after the best QBs whether it be in the draft or FA, you are a moron. Our GM is a moron. And the HC is a joke too. Lolz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thadude Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 2 hours ago, T0mShane said: I must say, this new spin that "Maccagnan is a good guy who just went on a bender for two years but is turning the corner and is cleaning up his life" is some really creative stuff, fellas. It is amazing how much Mac gets a pass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thadude Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 23 hours ago, Fantasy Island said: hackenberg might make a good punt protector Or cheerleader Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanatic Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 Just now, thadude said: It is amazing how much Mac gets a pass I know he took over a 4-12 team and the rocket scientist Jets fans are pissed he hasn't won 2 Super Bowls already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 1 minute ago, JetsFanatic said: I know he took over a 4-12 team and the rocket scientist Jets fans are pissed he hasn't won 2 Super Bowls already. He took over a 4-12 team, spent $100 million dollars, used 25 draft picks, and made eight trades and now they're the worst team in the sport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanatic Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 8 minutes ago, T0mShane said: He took over a 4-12 team, spent $100 million dollars, used 25 draft picks, and made eight trades and now they're the worst team in the sport. He went 10-6 and 5-11, and we will see how his drafting works out. He has not hamstrung us with long term dead money, going into next season the Jets may be $80M under the cap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thadude Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 10 minutes ago, JetsFanatic said: I know he took over a 4-12 team and the rocket scientist Jets fans are pissed he hasn't won 2 Super Bowls already. Done such a great job improving the team how many W's next year? 1? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thadude Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 4 minutes ago, JetsFanatic said: He went 10-6 and 5-11, and we will see how his drafting works out. He has not hamstrung us with long term dead money, going into next season the Jets may be $80M under the cap. 10-6 with the easiest schedule in the NFL and inheriting $50 million in cap room and couldn't even make the playoffs We sucked last year and are going to be God-awful next season. No Qb after 3 years. All draft picks not named Leo sucked. Albatross contracts for Mo, Revis and even Fitz. Bottom 3 NFL roster after 3 seasons and tries to trade Decker after announcing he will cut him But you're right Mike Macagnan is doing a great job Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanatic Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 Just now, thadude said: 10-6 with the easiest schedule in the NFL and inheriting $50 million in cap room and couldn't even make the playoffs We sucked last year and are going to be God-awful next season. No Qb after 3 years. All draft picks not named Leo sucked. Albatross contracts for Mo, Revis and even Fitz. Bottom 3 NFL roster after 3 seasons and tries to trade Decker after announcing he will cut him But you're right Mike Macagnan is doing a great job Give me a break!! He took over Sh*t and you critical of him for missing the playoffs in first season after going from 4 to 10 wins. Fans are idiots!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 23 minutes ago, T0mShane said: He took over a 4-12 team, spent $100 million dollars, used 25 draft picks, and made eight trades and now they're the worst team in the sport. No, he made moves and won 10 games. Then he dumped out and is in the process of rebuilding We'll see how that works out and he'll be judged on it. Not on what whiney Jet fans looking to blame someone for not having won since 1969 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 13 minutes ago, thadude said: 10-6 with the easiest schedule in the NFL and inheriting $50 million in cap room and couldn't even make the playoffs We sucked last year and are going to be God-awful next season. No Qb after 3 years. All draft picks not named Leo sucked. Albatross contracts for Mo, Revis and even Fitz. Bottom 3 NFL roster after 3 seasons and tries to trade Decker after announcing he will cut him But you're right Mike Macagnan is doing a great job And last year they had one of the tougher schedules in the NFL. But it only works to suit the idiot argument that they only won because of the strength of schedule. Thats pure nonsense. And stay out of the predicting business, you struggle enough with what actually happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSteve Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 15 hours ago, Fantasy Island said: Mac and cheese cant draft for $%^&. His only good pick fell into his lap. When fans and opponents know you don't have a QB and you don't go after the best QBs whether it be in the draft or FA, you are a moron. Our GM is a moron. And the HC is a joke too. Oh crap!!! I forgot! Mac can't do anything right. My bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSteve Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 1 hour ago, thadude said: 10-6 with the easiest schedule in the NFL and inheriting $50 million in cap room and couldn't even make the playoffs We sucked last year and are going to be God-awful next season. No Qb after 3 years. All draft picks not named Leo sucked. Albatross contracts for Mo, Revis and even Fitz. Bottom 3 NFL roster after 3 seasons and tries to trade Decker after announcing he will cut him But you're right Mike Macagnan is doing a great job Yeah, all the draft picks and the UFA suck. I wonder how the replacement of the next replacement will do drafting wise..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 1 hour ago, T0mShane said: He took over a 4-12 team, spent $100 million dollars, used 25 draft picks, and made eight trades and now they're the worst team in the sport. He took over a team that was bad, which is Bad. Then the team was good for a season, which is Good. Now the team is bad again, but this time the team being bad is actually Good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 2 hours ago, dbatesman said: He took over a team that was bad, which is Bad. Then the team was good for a season, which is Good. Now the team is bad again, but this time the team being bad is actually Good Remember when Idzik was referred to as Da Ninja that was awesoneawesome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thadude Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 3 hours ago, JetsFanatic said: Give me a break!! He took over Sh*t and you critical of him for missing the playoffs in first season after going from 4 to 10 wins. Fans are idiots!! Rich Kotite once upon time had a 10 win season how does he not have a job? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thadude Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 2 hours ago, CanadaSteve said: Yeah, all the draft picks and the UFA suck. I wonder how the replacement of the next replacement will do drafting wise..... That joke wasn't funny the first 9,000 times you posted it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 6 hours ago, T0mShane said: I must say, this new spin that "Maccagnan is a good guy who just went on a bender for two years but is turning the corner and is cleaning up his life" is some really creative stuff, fellas. lol, wut ? there is no denying the roster is at an all time low, but it is debatable as to why it was done assuming it was done to lose 15 games is one idea, just a total tear down and fresh start is another woody released a statement to be patient with the young guys, not to give up on this year and start hosin' for rosen its plausible macc just told woody his style of building a team hasn't worked in 15 years, lets try something new. no shiny toys, go young now, woody broke his promise to mangini about favre, so we can't say what he told mac or if he will honor it, but the mccown signing and adams pick point to a tear down, not a tank job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thadude Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 3 hours ago, Jet Nut said: And last year they had one of the tougher schedules in the NFL. But it only works to suit the idiot argument that they only won because of the strength of schedule. Thats pure nonsense. And stay out of the predicting business, you struggle enough with what actually happened. Mac or Bill Polian? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thadude Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 Just now, Larz said: lol, wut ? there is no denying the roster is at an all time low, but it is debatable as to why it was done assuming it was done to lose 15 games is one idea, just a total tear down and fresh start is another woody released a statement to be patient with the young guys, not to give up on this year and start hosin' for rosen now, woody broke his promise to mangini about favre, so we can't say what he told mac or if he will honor it, but the mccown signing and adams pick point to a tear down, not a tank job. So signing a 38 year old veteran qb to start is a "tear down?" Mac was earlier this offseason trying to talk a 40 year old Steve Smith out of retirement. There is no plan this franchise is a hot mess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanatic Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 2 hours ago, thadude said: Rich Kotite once upon time had a 10 win season how does he not have a job? But the Eagles weren't 4-12 the prior year. Give Mac time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 2 hours ago, Larz said: lol, wut ? there is no denying the roster is at an all time low, but it is debatable as to why it was done assuming it was done to lose 15 games is one idea, just a total tear down and fresh start is another woody released a statement to be patient with the young guys, not to give up on this year and start hosin' for rosen its plausible macc just told woody his style of building a team hasn't worked in 15 years, lets try something new. no shiny toys, go young now, woody broke his promise to mangini about favre, so we can't say what he told mac or if he will honor it, but the mccown signing and adams pick point to a tear down, not a tank job. What's the starting offensive lineup in 2018? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 Just now, T0mShane said: What's the starting offensive lineup in 2018? You can try to miss the point all you want to, it doesn't change it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 Just now, Larz said: You can try to miss the point all you want to, it doesn't change it. If this is a "tear down" and rebuild, and he's starting out by drafting ILB's and S's, he should be fired this afternoon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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