Jetsfan80 Posted August 9, 2017 Author Share Posted August 9, 2017 3 hours ago, bgivs21 said: How is he the odd man out in Philly!?!? I don't get these reports. Agholor has done next to nothing in his 2 years in the league. Agholor was a 1st round pick and fits the mold of a slot receiver far better than Matthews does. Under a 2nd year HC it makes sense that they aren't giving up on him. Among Matthews' biggest problems is he's not fast enough to play on the outside. Still worth a look on a lowball offer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 14 minutes ago, T0mShane said: Those damn fans again! Is honesty what you look for in a head coach? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 1 minute ago, #27TheDominator said: Is honesty what you look for in a head coach? No, but Rex being a moron wasn't the fans' fault Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 The Jets already have plenty of WRs to fill a roster with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 The Jets already have plenty of WRs to fill a roster with. Kinda like I had plenty of girlfriends in high school but none of them would crack the starting lineup with any of the cool guys Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 11 minutes ago, T0mShane said: No, but Rex being a moron wasn't the fans' fault The fans didn't make him say it, but the fans believing him was the fans fault. If you believe a blowhard, that's on you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 Just now, #27TheDominator said: The fans didn't make him say it, but the fans believing him was the fans fault. If you believe a blowhard, that's on you. Are we talking about Jets fans or the electorate in general, because Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 1 hour ago, Scott Dierking said: I will ask this again, name the player and show me the Macc quote. Maybe it has happened, but I do not recall it. With Rex, that was a regular happening, as I recollect There were CFL players, and others who we stole or we snipered (not a word) that other teams missed out on, there was that great pass rusher from KC etc there were a few. Mike Maccagnan is all smoke and mirrors.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted August 9, 2017 Author Share Posted August 9, 2017 57 minutes ago, HessStation said: The Jets already have plenty of WRs to fill a roster with. Which of our current Top 4 WR's would crack the Top 4 of an average WR corps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adb280z Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 6 hours ago, HessStation said: The Jets already have plenty of WRs to fill a roster with. Not one of them is better than Matthews. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
win4ever Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 No real reason to trade for him, when we will have more than enough cap space to possibly afford him next year. He would have to come into a new system, be completely behind everyone else in understanding the system, in a year where winning most likely won't happen. I'd rather wait and see. I think of this year as tryouts. I want to see what Peake has, what Stewart can do, what Hansen can show, and how Anderson can get better. Maybe even see Marshall or Marks and see if anyone sticks. Essentially, throwing pasta at the wall time and see what we can salvage. I think the only way we would make this trade was if we already had the QB of the future. Or if Mathews could be under control for beyond next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thadude Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 Huh? Why are we trying to save this season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 8 hours ago, adb280z said: Not one of them is better than Matthews. Which is why, **** Jordan Matthews. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 14 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said: Which of our current Top 4 WR's would crack the Top 4 of an average WR corps? I'll answer that at the end of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
56mehl56 Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 47 minutes ago, thadude said: Huh? Why are we trying to save this season? Because it will piss you off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted August 10, 2017 Author Share Posted August 10, 2017 2 hours ago, HessStation said: Which is why, **** Jordan Matthews. I just want to give Sam Darnold a weapon that has triple digit career catches. He'll have those other young receivers here too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted August 10, 2017 Author Share Posted August 10, 2017 2 hours ago, thadude said: Huh? Why are we trying to save this season? 5th mother f*cker who didn't read the first sentence of the thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obrien2Toon Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 I always liked Mathews, and never like 5 & 6th rounders Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 9 minutes ago, Obrien2Toon said: I always liked Mathews, and never like 5 & 6th rounders Mr. Tannenbaum? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 23 hours ago, Warfish said: We're fine at WR for what this year is. Just stop. One could argue this year is a year we need to look at our young QB's and make a decision as to whether either one of them will step up. Are you confident in the WR's we have to make that the best situation possible ? Sure maybe Anderson and Peake take the next step but the fact the best WR on the roster is out for the year is going to make it a big question mark how all that plays out. You may very well see another WR added if these guys don't step up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 1 minute ago, Smashmouth said: One could argue this year is a year we need to look at our young QB's and make a decision as to whether either one of them will step up. I agree. Hack must show some sign this year he is even basic-level competent, or he should not be on this roster next year. 1 minute ago, Smashmouth said: Are you confident in the WR's we have to make that the best situation possible ? "Best situation possible". If my 2nd Round QB requires the "best situation possible" he's dogsh*t and should be cut. We have an entire soccer teams worth of young, talents, WR prospects with potential. if Hack cannot make that work, Hack is not the guy for this franchise in 2018 and beyond. I rejected the "no weapons, needs to start next year" argument for Sanchez, for Geno and now for Hack. It's bullsh*t. A QB makes his WR's, WR's do not make a QB. 1 minute ago, Smashmouth said: Sure maybe Anderson and Peake take the next step but the fact the best WR on the roster is out for the year is going to make it a big question mark how all that plays out. You may very well see another WR added if these guys don't step up. It's a waste of assets at this point. Keep our powder dry now, and spent it in 2018 when it might serve the long term of this franchise. Never buy in the open market when everyone will think you're desperate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 5 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said: I just want to give Sam Darnold a weapon that has triple digit career catches. He'll have those other young receivers here too. Too early for me. Matthews doesn't fit into "my plans" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Buffalo BillsVerified account @buffalobills More We've acquired WR Jordan Matthews and a 2018 3rd round pick from the Eagles for CB Ronald Darby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted August 11, 2017 Author Share Posted August 11, 2017 Hahaha. Wow. Jets suck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony MaC Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 We were in no position to make a trade like this. After using a couple of later picks to get vets who worked out for exactly one year we need to maintain our draft capital, not spend it on talented but struggling WR's. And we were NEVER gonna come up with something equal to Darby, not without giving more than we could or should. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted August 11, 2017 Author Share Posted August 11, 2017 1 minute ago, Tony MaC said: We were in no position to make a trade like this. After using a couple of later picks to get vets who worked out for exactly one year we need to maintain our draft capital, not spend it on talented but struggling WR's. And we were NEVER gonna come up with something equal to Darby, not without giving more than we could or should. More accurately, we never pull off smart trades with Macc. The Bills, Eagles, and Rams ALL just got better through these trades. Bills have a stockpile of picks. Eagles can now put Agholor in the slot where he belongs. Rams finally have a true # 1 WR for their # 1 pick QB. Before, Robert Woods was their WR1. Meanwhile we sit here trying to tank and might f*ck that up too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony MaC Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 2 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: More accurately, we never pull off smart trades with Macc. The Bills, Eagles, and Rams ALL just got better through these trades. Bills have a stockpile of picks. Eagles can now put Agholor in the slot where he belongs. Rams finally have a true # 1 WR for their # 1 pick QB. Before, Robert Woods was their WR1. Meanwhile we sit here trying to tank and might f*ck that up too. Uh huh. I wouldn't sweat it, this was nothing that could or should have been done by the Jets. The Jets were NEVER getting their hands on Darby and Watkins, because Buffalo wasn't going to give them to a division rival. And Matthews isn't all that, there's no reason to fret not giving up picks to go get him. We're in no kind of spot to be buyers or sellers right now unless that means trading high picks for more picks to teams like the Rams who are freaking allergic to theirs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil Woody Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 And Sheldon still checks into Florham Park every day..... Can't wait to be rid of that fat moron. I'll take a 5th rounder. Just get his cancerous ass off the team so we can...you know...rebuild, properly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 12 minutes ago, Lil Woody said: And Sheldon still checks into Florham Park every day..... Can't wait to be rid of that fat moron. I'll take a 5th rounder. Just get his cancerous ass off the team so we can...you know...rebuild, properly. Sheldon Richardson isn't preventing us from "rebuilding properly". I agree I'd like to see us trade from an area of strength (our DL) to improve other areas. I think too many folks here are trying to hard to have vitriolic reasons to trade him, other than what I just said. He's a very good football player. Manufacturing things like "he's a giant cancer blah blah blah" is just unnecessary and irrelevant, frankly. He may annoy us, but that doesn't mean he isn't adored in the locker room. All indications are that he's pretty popular, frankly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 1 hour ago, Lil Woody said: And Sheldon still checks into Florham Park every day..... Can't wait to be rid of that fat moron. I'll take a 5th rounder. Just get his cancerous ass off the team so we can...you know...rebuild, properly. Typical Jets luck we finally hit a home run in the draft (DROY) and then he puffs up and turds out and is now hated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 5 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said: More accurately, we never pull off smart trades with Macc. The Bills, Eagles, and Rams ALL just got better through these trades. Bills have a stockpile of picks. Eagles can now put Agholor in the slot where he belongs. Rams finally have a true # 1 WR for their # 1 pick QB. Before, Robert Woods was their WR1. Meanwhile we sit here trying to tank and might f*ck that up too. The view I heard from on some Podcast, which I agreed with, is that the Jets are on their way to messing up the tank. I think the defense will be too good to win only 2 games. I am not talking 8 wins, but more than bottom bottom. The safeties and Claiborne and 2 DL fighting for their jobs will make a big difference. That being said, my guess is that the Jets will be able to find a QB better than what they have in picks 4-10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 1 hour ago, varjet said: The view I heard from on some Podcast, which I agreed with, is that the Jets are on their way to messing up the tank. I think the defense will be too good to win only 2 games. I am not talking 8 wins, but more than bottom bottom. The safeties and Claiborne and 2 DL fighting for their jobs will make a big difference. That being said, my guess is that the Jets will be able to find a QB better than what they have in picks 4-10. They will definitely mess up the tank and be forced to include Wilkerson and picks to get Darnold, and extend Sheldon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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