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The fact of the matter is that teams in the NFL that completed less than 60% of their passes stink.  So if Hack wants to be a successful Jets QB, he needs to do complete a higher percentage of passes than he has ever done before.  He can do it, but it will take work.  

I like his style, and I do think he will have a long career in the NFL because of his physical ability.  I hope the Jets can put an offense into place that capitalizes on his talents.  Think Flacco/Testaverde.  

His low completion rate is likely driven by his occassional grounders, errant passes and missed swing passes.  He has the long pass thing down.   if you through 15-20x a few bad passes lower your completion percentage significantly.

But I think the data behind the article were more aimed at Macc than Hack.  Tough data for a second round pick.   I think others have put a 60% college completion percentage as a requirement for a high draft pick.

 

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6 minutes ago, Beerfish said:

Just a comparison for all the people that say its not his fault its his rookie year, how can you expect him to do well.  Under 38% in back to back games from a 2nd round pick vs psquad opponents is pretty terrible.  Can he be much better this year?  Sure he can.

It is was it is , but its still a terribly small sample size. Again if he lit it up in those two games the narrative would be he played against scrubs and guys pumping gas and flipping burgers now, the fact he didn't proves nothing as it relates to this season and that is a good thing.

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Yeah, but what was his completion percentage in the 4th quarter in games up by less than 7 points, or down by less than 7 points?

Show me that type of stuff, and I will tell you what type of player you may have.

The rest is stuff like having 7 year old Tommy Mitchell write an article on the octave range of talent trying out for the voice of Elmo on Sesame Street.

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5 minutes ago, 56mehl56 said:

It is was it is , but its still a terribly small sample size. Again if he lit it up in those two games the narrative would be he played against scrubs and guys pumping gas and flipping burgers now, the fact he didn't proves nothing as it relates to this season and that is a good thing.

I guess we will see this year.  The fact that he was so terrible last year just sets his benchmark very low so if he even gets to 50% people can trumpet 'improvement!'

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14 minutes ago, Pcola said:

Are there any quality QBs in the NFL today that were below 60% completion their last year in college?

Its not the number #1 criteria but there are minimums.  There is a reason Hack was rated so low by 31 other teams.  But as Jets fans we give the morons that make these decisions the benefit of the doubt.  

Im holding out hope that the expertise that is coaching daily can at least make him an average QB but I have my doubts that the FO ever wants to see him have to take the field.

Yes, because the draft ends in the 2nd round. How do you know he was rated "so low"? He theoretically could've been picked at any time after we did. You make it sound like he was guaranteed to lasted until the 5th round or later. I don't get this whole "31 other teams passed on (player X) before we picked (player X) at pick (#X), therefore (player X) must suck." Every single player is passed over at some point.

14 minutes ago, Beerfish said:

There were 89 QBs that played in the ex season last year.  Including 13 rookies, Hack was 89 out of 89 in comp % and 87 out of 89 in rating.

His comp % was 36.2

8% below any other rookie QB.

Well, last pre-season didn't really count. Hack wasn't even ready to play. He wasn't a rookie, as much as a pre-rookie.

I fully expect him to gain that 8% in completions this pre-season as a full-fledged rookie.

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1 minute ago, Beerfish said:

I guess we will see this year.  The fact that he was so terrible last year just sets his benchmark very low so if he even gets to 50% people can trumpet 'improvement!'

For me the improvement may not show up in completion %, for me the improvement will be if his fundamentals and decision making have taken a step forward.

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1 hour ago, Spoot-Face said:

"Inaccurate to a fault"?

What the **** does that even mean? Being inaccurate IS a fault. That figure of speech only makes sense with a positive, like: "honest to a fault" or "sexy to a fault".

Because of that idiocy, I refuse to even read the article.

I enjoyed his earlier works, "Darron Lee struggled against the inside run like a fox" and "Calvin Pryor has poor field vision like a greased pig."

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he is a terrible qb that was drafted by a terrible gm-if anybody watched him play his last season at PSU can say otherwise they are blind or stupid

Jet fans love to hype up garbage players year in and year out then three years from now when the players are out of the league they are hyping up the next terrible player

In classic jet fan style many are celebrating our gms "plan" who in his tenure put together maybe the worst team in franchise history

 

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Unless Hack absolutely lights it up this yea he'll be a foot note next year when we use a top 3 pick on a Qb,  His fans better hope he makes a monumental leap because slow improvement wont cut it.  And this has been the point of a lot of the nay sayers like me from day one.  The guy was too messed up and two screwed up coming into the league thus worthy of a 6th or 7th round 'hope' pick.

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5 minutes ago, Matt39 said:

No. I'm saying there's no reason to be stubborn with all the predictive data out there now. 

As opposed to what the writer of this article wrote, in the OP?

I asked, without knowing what more qualitative data may be, in close ballgames at the end of the game. I then researched that data, and showed what I came up with (without that specific data). 

I did not put any analysis upon it.I did not editorialize it. Done't see what the problem is with that. Analyze it as you see fit. I do see some good and bad things there.

Sheesh.

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43 minutes ago, jgb said:


How long you followed the Jets? I'd say the pessimism is not only justified but also rational.


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He who allows an entity, such as a sports team, to dictate the ebb and flow positivity and optimism has forsaken accountability for their own happiness.

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The entire preseason career of Christian Hackenberg

vs. Giants

1st and 10 at NYJ 25
(12:06 - 4th) #5 Hackenburg in at QB. (Shotgun) C.Hackenberg pass incomplete short left to C.Worthy.
2nd and 10 at NYJ 25
(12:00 - 4th) (Shotgun) C.Hackenberg pass incomplete short left to A.Smith.
3rd and 15 at NYJ 20
(11:57 - 4th) (Shotgun) C.Hackenberg pass short middle to Z.Sudfeld to NYJ 36 for 16 yards (K.Sheppard).
1st and 10 at NYJ 36
(11:18 - 4th) C.Hackenberg pass deep middle to C.Peake to NYG 38 for 26 yards (T.Wade).
3rd and 10 at NYJ 25
(9:47 - 4th) PENALTY on NYJ-C.Hackenberg, Delay of Game, 5 yards, enforced at NYJ 25 - No Play.
1st and 10 at NYG 38
(10:32 - 4th) A.Smith left tackle to NYG 37 for 1 yard (J.Thomas; J.Brinkley).
2nd and 9 at NYG 37
(9:47 - 4th) (Shotgun) C.Hackenberg pass deep left to R.Anderson ran ob at NYG 10 for 27 yards.
1st and Goal at NYG 10
(9:04 - 4th) Robby Anderson Pass From Christian Hackenberg for 10 Yrds R.Martin extra point is GOOD, Center-T.Purdum, Holder-L.Edwards.

1st and 10 at NYG 14
(7:56 - 4th) C.Hackenberg pass incomplete short right to R.Anderson (A.Adams).
2nd and 10 at NYG 14
(7:52 - 4th) (Shotgun) A.Smith left end to NYG 11 for 3 yards (A.Adams).
3rd and 7 at NYG 11
(7:11 - 4th) T.Bohanon left end to NYG 11 for no gain (L.Nix).
4th and 7 at NYG 11
(6:26 - 4th) Ross Martin 29 Yd Field Goal

1st and 10 at NYJ 2
(3:33 - 4th) T.Williams up the middle to NYJ 2 for no gain (S.Maponga).
2nd and 10 at NYJ 2
(2:51 - 4th) T.Williams right end to NYJ 5 for 3 yards (A.Adams).
(2:43 - 4th) Timeout #2 by NYG at 02:43.
3rd and 7 at NYJ 5
(2:43 - 4th) (Shotgun) C.Hackenberg pass intended for W.Saxton INTERCEPTED by A.Adams (D.Coleman) at NYJ 13. A.Adams to NYJ 11 for 2 yards (M.Liedtke).

1st and 10 at NYJ 25
(2:25 - 4th) (Shotgun) C.Hackenberg pass incomplete short left to R.Anderson (M.Hunter).
2nd and 10 at NYJ 25
(2:21 - 4th) (Shotgun) C.Hackenberg pass incomplete short left to A.Smith.
3rd and 10 at NYJ 25
(2:18 - 4th) (Shotgun) C.Hackenberg pass deep left to R.Anderson to NYJ 46 for 21 yards (A.Adams).
(2:00 - 4th) Two-Minute Warning
1st and 10 at NYJ 46
(2:00 - 4th) (Shotgun) C.Hackenberg pass incomplete short right to A.Smith [R.Okwara].
2nd and 10 at NYJ 46
(1:57 - 4th) (Shotgun) A.Smith up the middle to 50 for 4 yards (R.Okwara; J.Bromley).
3rd and 6 at 50
(1:29 - 4th) (Shotgun) C.Hackenberg pass short left to A.Smith to NYG 45 for 5 yards (M.Hunter).
(1:20 - 4th) Timeout #1 by NYJ at 01:20.
4th and 1 at NYG 45
(1:19 - 4th) (Shotgun) C.Hackenberg pass incomplete short left to Z.Sudfeld [S.Maponga].

1st and 10 at NYJ 16
(0:11 - 4th) (Shotgun) C.Hackenberg pass incomplete short left to Z.Sudfeld [R.Okwara].
2nd and 10 at NYJ 16
(0:08 - 4th) (Shotgun) C.Hackenberg to NYJ 8 for -8 yards (R.Okwara). FUMBLES (R.Okwara), and recovers at NYJ 6. C.Hackenberg pass incomplete short right to C.Worthy.


vs. Philadelphia
1st and 10 at NYJ 20
(1:59 - 1st) K.Robinson to NYJ 24 for 4 yards (C.Smith).
2nd and 6 at NYJ 24
(15:00 - 1st) K.Robinson to NYJ 31 for 7 yards (E.Reynolds). PENALTY on PHI-E.Reynolds, Taunting, 15 yards, enforced at NYJ 31.
1st and 10 at NYJ 46
(0:41 - 1st) C.Hackenberg pass incomplete [S.Means]. PENALTY on NYJ-C.Hackenberg, Intentional Grounding, 15 yards, enforced at NYJ 46.
2nd and 25 at NYJ 31
(0:36 - 1st) C.Hackenberg pass incomplete to B.Bostick [A.sh*ttu].
3rd and 25 at NYJ 31
(0:36 - 1st) (Shotgun) C.Hackenberg pass to J.Amaro to NYJ 37 for 6 yards (C.Smith).

next possesion
1st and 10 at PHI 34
(12:24 - 2nd) K.Robinson to PHI 33 for 1 yard (B.Braman).
2nd and 9 at PHI 33
(12:24 - 2nd) K.Robinson to PHI 35 for -2 yards (A.sh*ttu).
3rd and 11 at PHI 35
(11:05 - 2nd) (Shotgun) PENALTY on NYJ-W.Johnson, False Start, 5 yards, enforced at PHI 35 - No Play.
3rd and 16 at PHI 40
(10:46 - 2nd) (Shotgun) C.Hackenberg pass to K.Robinson to PHI 41 for -1 yards (N.Goode). Penalty on NYJ-C.Watts, Offensive Holding, declined.
4th and 17 at PHI 41
(10:15 - 2nd) L.Edwards punts 41 yards to end zone, Center-T.Purdum, Touchback.

1st and 10 at NYJ 20
(4:50 - 2nd) K.Robinson left guard to NYJ 20 for no gain (Q.Gause).
2nd and 10 at NYJ 20
(4:10 - 2nd) K.Robinson to NYJ 35 for 15 yards (B.Countess). PENALTY on NYJ-W.Johnson, Offensive Holding, 10 yards, enforced at NYJ 24.
2nd and 16 at NYJ 14
(3:33 - 2nd) (Shotgun) C.Hackenberg pass to K.Robinson to NYJ 17 for 3 yards (D.Cherry).
3rd and 13 at NYJ 17
(2:57 - 2nd) (Shotgun) C.Hackenberg pass incomplete to R.Anderson. Penalty on NYJ-C.Peake, Illegal Shift, declined.
4th and 13 at NYJ 17
(2:36 - 2nd) Paul Turner 71 Yrd Punt Return C.Parkey extra point is GOOD, Center-J.Dorenbos, Holder-D.Jones.

(2:36 - 2nd) C.Parkey kicks 63 yards from PHI 35 to NYJ 2. J.Marshall to NYJ 34 for 32 yards (M.Tavarres).
1st and 10 at NYJ 34
(2:28 - 2nd) (Shotgun) C.Hackenberg pass short left to A.Smith to NYJ 36 for 2 yards (Q.Gause).
2nd and 8 at NYJ 36
(2:04 - 2nd) (Shotgun) C.Hackenberg pass incomplete to A.Smith.
3rd and 8 at NYJ 36
(2:02 - 2nd) (Shotgun) C.Hackenberg pass to C.Peake to NYJ 36 for no gain (E.Reynolds).
(1:55 - 2nd) Two-Minute Warning
4th and 8 at NYJ 36
(1:55 - 2nd) (Punt formation) L.Edwards punts 55 yards to PHI 9, Center-T.Purdum. P.Turner to PHI 15 for 6 yards (R.Miles).


1st and 10 at NYJ 46
(0:50 - 2nd) (Shotgun) C.Hackenberg sacked at NYJ 40 for -6 yards (S.Means).
2nd and 16 at NYJ 40
(0:26 - 2nd) (Shotgun) C.Hackenberg pass to R.Anderson to PHI 43 for 17 yards (B.Countess).
(0:17 - 2nd) Timeout #1 by NYJ at 00:17.
1st and 10 at PHI 43
(0:17 - 2nd) (Shotgun) C.Hackenberg pass incomplete to C.Peake [B.Braman].
2nd and 10 at PHI 43
(0:12 - 2nd) (Shotgun) C.Hackenberg pass incomplete to A.Smith (S.Means).
3rd and 10 at PHI 43
(0:09 - 2nd) (Shotgun) C.Hackenberg pass to J.Amaro to PHI 34 for 9 yards (B.Countess). FUMBLES (B.Countess), recovered by NYJ-C.Worthy at PHI 35. C.Worthy to PHI 34 for 1 yard (E.Rowe).

1st and 10 at NYJ 23
(11:50 - 3rd) A.Smith to NYJ 24 for 1 yard (D.Vaeao).
2nd and 9 at NYJ 24
(11:12 - 3rd) C.Hackenberg pass incomplete to C.Worthy. PENALTY on PHI-E.Rowe, Defensive Pass Interference, 35 yards, enforced at NYJ 24 - No Play.
1st and 10 at PHI 41
(11:05 - 3rd) A.Smith right end to PHI 34 for 7 yards (E.Rowe).
2nd and 3 at PHI 34
(10:25 - 3rd) A.Smith right end pushed ob at PHI 21 for 13 yards (E.Rowe). PENALTY on NYJ-D.Dozier, Offensive Holding, 10 yards, enforced at PHI 34 - No Play.
2nd and 13 at PHI 44
(9:59 - 3rd) (Shotgun) C.Hackenberg pass incomplete to J.Amaro (E.Rowe).
3rd and 13 at PHI 44
(9:52 - 3rd) (Shotgun) C.Hackenberg pass incomplete to C.Peake.
4th and 13 at PHI 44
(9:52 - 3rd) L.Edwards punts 44 yards to end zone, Center-T.Purdum, Touchback.

1st and 10 at NYJ 42
(7:09 - 3rd) C.Hackenberg pass incomplete to C.Worthy [M.Tavarres].
2nd and 10 at NYJ 42
(7:04 - 3rd) A.Smith up the middle to NYJ 39 for -3 yards (A.sh*ttu).
3rd and 13 at NYJ 39
(6:21 - 3rd) (Shotgun) C.Hackenberg pass to W.Saxton to NYJ 42 for 3 yards (C.Smith).
4th and 10 at NYJ 42
(6:21 - 3rd) L.Edwards punts 44 yards to PHI 14, Center-T.Purdum, downed by NYJ-B.Bostick.

1st and 5 at PHI 12
(4:31 - 3rd) A.Smith to PHI 11 for 1 yard (Q.Gause).
2nd and 4 at PHI 11
(4:04 - 3rd) Ed Reynolds 90 Yrd Interception Return C.Sturgis extra point is GOOD, Center-J.Dorenbos, Holder-D.Jones.

(4:04 - 3rd) C.Sturgis kicks 50 yards from PHI 50 to end zone, Touchback.
1st and 10 at NYJ 25
(4:04 - 3rd) C.Hackenberg pass to A.Smith to NYJ 20 for -5 yards (B.Countess).
2nd and 15 at NYJ 20
(3:13 - 3rd) (Shotgun) C.Hackenberg pass incomplete to C.Worthy.
3rd and 15 at NYJ 20
(3:00 - 3rd) (Shotgun) C.Hackenberg pass incomplete to C.Worthy (B.Braman).
4th and 15 at NYJ 20
(2:53 - 3rd) (Punt formation) L.Edwards punts 60 yards to PHI 20, Center-T.Purdum. P.Turner to PHI 31 for 11 yards (J.Howsare).

1st and 10 at NYJ 47
(14:53 - 4th) C.Hackenberg pass incomplete to C.Worthy.
2nd and 10 at NYJ 47
(14:48 - 4th) (Shotgun) A.Smith to PHI 48 for 5 yards (D.Cherry).
3rd and 5 at PHI 48
(14:02 - 4th) (Shotgun) C.Hackenberg pass incomplete to A.Smith.
4th and 5 at PHI 48
(13:58 - 4th) L.Edwards punts 45 yards to PHI 3, Center-T.Purdum, fair catch by P.Turner.

1st and 10 at NYJ 40
(10:52 - 4th) A.Smith right tackle to NYJ 44 for 4 yards (D.Cherry).
2nd and 6 at NYJ 44
(10:12 - 4th) (Shotgun) A.Smith up the middle to NYJ 48 for 4 yards (J.Metz).
3rd and 2 at NYJ 48
(9:35 - 4th) (Shotgun) C.Hackenberg pass incomplete short right to W.Saxton (E.Reynolds).
4th and 2 at NYJ 48
(9:30 - 4th) L.Edwards punts 42 yards to PHI 10, Center-T.Purdum, fair catch by P.Turner.

1st and 10 at NYJ 40
(4:56 - 4th) A.Smith to NYJ 49 for 9 yards (J.Shepherd).
2nd and 1 at NYJ 49
(4:19 - 4th) A.Smith up the middle to PHI 47 for 4 yards (B.Countess).
1st and 10 at PHI 47
(3:40 - 4th) A.Smith right end to NYJ 48 for -5 yards (Q.Gause).
2nd and 15 at NYJ 48
(2:57 - 4th) C.Hackenberg pass incomplete to A.Smith.
3rd and 15 at NYJ 48
(2:50 - 4th) (Shotgun) C.Hackenberg pass incomplete short right to A.Smith.
4th and 15 at NYJ 48
(2:46 - 4th) (Punt formation) L.Edwards punts 37 yards to PHI 15, Center-T.Purdum, downed by NYJ-J.Howsare.

1st and 10 at NYJ 39
(1:02 - 4th) (Shotgun) C.Hackenberg pass short middle to W.Saxton to PHI 49 for 12 yards (D.Cherry; Q.Gause).
1st and 10 at PHI 49
(0:37 - 4th) (Shotgun) C.Hackenberg up the middle to PHI 34 for 15 yards (D.Vaeao).
1st and 10 at PHI 34
(0:37 - 4th) (Shotgun) C.Hackenberg pass to W.Saxton to PHI 25 for 9 yards (J.Shepherd; D.Cherry).
2nd and 1 at PHI 25
(0:37 - 4th) (Shotgun) C.Hackenberg spiked the ball to stop the clock.
(0:07 - 4th) Timeout #2 by PHI at 00:07.
3rd and 1 at PHI 25
(0:05 - 4th) C.Hackenberg pass incomplete deep right to B.Bostick (C.Smith).
4th and 1 at PHI 25
(0:01 - 4th) (Shotgun) C.Hackenberg pass incomplete to Z.Sudfeld.

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46 minutes ago, kmnj said:

he is a terrible qb that was drafted by a terrible gm-if anybody watched him play his last season at PSU can say otherwise they are blind or stupid

Jet fans love to hype up garbage players year in and year out then three years from now when the players are out of the league they are hyping up the next terrible player

In classic jet fan style many are celebrating our gms "plan" who in his tenure put together maybe the worst team in franchise history

 

If you put a Div2 team up against Alabama or Ohio St how would that Div2 Qb look. For all intents and purposes the talent level of the OLine at PSU was Div2.

 

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1 hour ago, Scott Dierking said:

All he needs to do is see what college qb has the highest completion average, draft him, and prosper. This stuff is not that difficult.

Yes exactly. Geno Smith 71% seinor year.  Here is a list of the top 10 Completion percentages of all time.

Practically a list of the future legends in the making. Book it. 

1Colt McCoy*76.67 2008Texas

2Kellen Moore*74.26 2011Boise State

3Daunte Culpepper73.63 1998UCF

4Stefan Lefors*73.54 2004Louisville

5Dan Persa*73.51 2010Northwestern

6Dan Persa*73.40 2011Northwestern

7Scott Tolzien*72.93 2010Wisconsin

8Chase Daniel*72.92 2008Missouri

9Russell Wilson*72.82 2011Wisconsin

10Colt Brennan*72.63 2006Hawaii

 

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3 hours ago, Sarge4Tide said:

Pretty much stopped when I read "has completed 50% of his passes in training camp"

Anybody who writes those words as part of the analysis of a QB is not worthy of serious consideration 

Thank you!!!

Think McCown (aka "Mr. Accurate") would be hitting 66% of his passes if he,like Petty say, was throwing to 3rd team WRs and offensive players and getting few to any meaningful reps???

It is a joke!! 

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3 minutes ago, Charlie Brown said:

Thank you!!!

Think McCown (aka "Mr. Accurate") would be hitting 66% of his passes if he,like Petty say, was throwing to 3rd team WRs and offensive players and getting few to any meaningful reps???

It is a joke!! 

Petty is actually playing with the evil third stringers

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16 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

[It's discovered that Hackenberg only completes 57% of his passes when he plays Madden]

Scott Dierking: "Those controllers are specifically made for tiny Asian hands."

(Hackenberg completes 5 passes in a row in a Madden game)

T0mShane: "The programmers adjusted reality so as not to frustrate small children"

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Are there any quality QBs in the NFL today that were below 60% completion their last year in college?
Its not the number #1 criteria but there are minimums.  There is a reason Hack was rated so low by 31 other teams.  But as Jets fans we give the morons that make these decisions the benefit of the doubt.  
Im holding out hope that the expertise that is coaching daily can at least make him an average QB but I have my doubts that the FO ever wants to see him have to take the field.


I am not trying to defend Hack, but how many current NFL QBs played in a college offense that remotely resembled a pro style offense? Tons and tons of College QBs hit 60% of their passes. That's not a remotely good indicator of accuracy. College completion percentage is inflated by the simplistic routes and reads in modern college football.

That's not to say Hack is highly accurate thrower, but if you counter point is college completion %, that doesn't mean jack.

For the record, both Rosen and Allen, who are widely considered "great" QB prospects, were both below 60% last year.

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I am a Hack supporter partly because it would be in the best interest of the jets if he did take hold of the qb position and run with it this year. With that said. .he cannot be average this year and he cannot be improving steadily this year, I can't see any way the jets passing on a Rosen or Darnold unless Hack has a "Dak Prescott/Carson Wentz" type of year.

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The quote last year in the media that I remember was that Hackenberg, despite being taken high in the second round, was considered a major project.

The plan was to rebuild his mechanics in the off season, hence he did not play much in last year's preseason... there was no point.

My gut feeling was that if they were going to completely change his mechanics, he would need more than one offseason to realistically challenge for a starting gig. 

Many of us were not fans of the pick, Hackenberg worked his butt off in the off season and so far he's improved but uneven in camp.

We will not really know anything this year until he get's some extended playing time in preseason games.

I expect McCown to start the season but not stay healthy, I expect both Hack and Petty will each end up starting some games.

My wild guess is that we will be picking a first round qb next year and that Hackenberg will be in a much better place developmentally to compete for a starting job.

That may be the first real qb competition we have had in years.

 

 

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9 minutes ago, Gangrene said:

The quote last year in the media that I remember was that Hackenberg, despite being taken high in the second round, was considered a major project.

The plan was to rebuild his mechanics in the off season, hence he did not play much in last year's preseason... there was no point.

My gut feeling was that if they were going to completely change his mechanics, he would need more than one offseason to realistically challenge for a starting gig. 

Many of us were not fans of the pick, Hackenberg worked his butt off in the off season and so far he's improved but uneven in camp.

We will not really know anything this year until he get's some extended playing time in preseason games.

I expect McCown to start the season but not stay healthy, I expect both Hack and Petty will each end up starting some games.

My wild guess is that we will be picking a first round qb next year and that Hackenberg will be in a much better place developmentally to compete for a starting job.

That may be the first real qb competition we have had in years.

 

 

My new favorite thing is when people talk about Hackenberg like he had his legs blown off by a surface to air missle and we should all be pulling for him to reclaim his rightful place as an American icon sprint champion.

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