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The New York Daily News reports the Jets' "top priority" with Christian Hackenberg this summer has been to "gradually build (his) confidence."

Hackenberg has mostly been working with the 2s. The team apparently believes he's best served by racking up some layups against the second-team defense. Per columnist Manish Mehta, the "prevailing sentiment" is that Hackenberg is still holding onto the ball too long. Whichever way you look at it, it's hard to classify Hack's sophomore summer as promising, or what the Jets need to see. He'll be on the spot Saturday night against the Titans.
 
 
Aug 10 - 1:53 PM

 

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How the Jets really feel about Christian Hackenberg: A behind-the-scenes look at their plan

NYC PAPERS OUT. Social media use restricted to low res file max 184 x 128 pixels and 72 dpi

Christian Hackenberg is working to build his confidence as a Jets backup quarterback.

(Howard Simmons/New York Daily News)

The legend of Christian Hackenberg has spun out of control in this information-hungry world that craves every nugget, no matter how irrelevant or incorrect it might be.

Remember, Hackenberg was a crazy, wild man a few months ago, supposedly plunking innocent scribes off in the distance with out-of-control passes. It's a wonder that such overblown nonsense didn't mushroom into a larger fable: Hey, I heard Hack side-swiped some poor old lady crossing the street in Morristown with an errant throw.

The latest tall tale from a blurb on the electronic superhighway erroneously claimed Hackenberg was sent off the field after a gaffe at a recent practice. Fantasy, of course, is much more appealing than reality.

The truth? New offensive coordinator John Morton wanted the second-year signal caller to sharpen his command in the huddle during a passing drill. It was a teaching moment for the fiery new offensive coordinator. Hackenberg took about five steps back and watched Bryce Petty step in. Moments later, Hackenberg got another chance and fired a bullet for a completion. He never came close to leaving the field.

Such is life these days for the most scrutinized football player in New York/New Jersey. So much is overblown.

I was critical of the curious plan for Hackenberg in the first week of training camp. The Jets, however, believe they've chosen the proper path by easing him along.

So, why hasn't Hackenberg received more first-team practice reps with the starters? (He worked with the backups in the first 7 of 10 practices.)

The top priority is to gradually build Hackenberg's confidence, according to team insiders.

The thinking is simple: If Hackenberg can bank some good plays against the second-team defense, it will propel him to the next step in his education. Morton and quarterbacks coach Jeremy Bates want Hackenberg to stack those moments to help prepare him for an upgrade in competition. So, the two coaches set forth a relatively conservative plan to bring him along.

The last thing the organization wanted or needed is for Leonard Williams, Sheldon Richardson and Mo Wilkerson to crush the young quarterback's soul by making life miserable for him at the outset of training camp.

There's a fine line between learning from your mistakes in practice and shattering your confidence because of those errors.

Before armchair psychologists chime in with the predictable "fragile psyche" narratives, consider that Hackenberg was sacked 103 times in 38 college games, including 82 times in his final two seasons behind a patchwork offensive line that included converted defensive linemen.

Hackenberg is the ultimate work in progress. Mistakes are inevitable. And practice is a time to learn from those mistakes.

Blowing those mistakes out of proportion is tempting for observers, but the organization doesn't have its collective head in the sand, either.

The brain trust is fully aware that it has to make a full and fair evaluation of Hackenberg by season's end, but the Jets will absolutely not rush his development to force him under center by Week 1 at Buffalo if he's not ready. They shouldn't rush his development, because the results — for everyone — could be disastrous.

Hackenberg.

Hackenberg.

(Seth Wenig/AP)

As of now, the Jets don't believe that Hackenberg is ready to start the season opener.

The prevailing sentiment on One Jets Drive is that he is still holding on to the ball too long. He needs to read defenses faster so that he can make quicker decisions, according to people in the know.

He's taken entirely too many "sacks" in 11-on-11 practice sessions to this point. (He's also holding it too long in 7-on-7 passing drills from time to time.)

Life is great wearing a red no-contact jersey in practice — it's easier to hold on to the ball a tick or two longer when there's no threat of bodily harm — but the Jets brain trust has legitimate concerns that Hackenberg will be a sitting duck who will inevitably get hurt in games if he doesn't speed up his decision-making in the pocket.

There's also a belief that Hackenberg has taken Morton's directive of taking care of the football to the extreme. It's a fair concern within the organization. Remember, Greg McElroy was concussed after getting sacked 11 times in his lone career start once upon a time. McElroy was so worried about not throwing an interception that he simply held on to the ball too long in a loss to the Chargers in 2012.

Playing turnover-free football obviously has its privileges, but there's a faction on One Jets Drive that thought Hackenberg was overly concerned with his streak of nine consecutive practices without an interception.

There's no need to overreact though. There aren't warring factions in the building. It's simply a part of the maturation process of a young quarterback. Clarity comes by calming down.

So, Bates is helping Hackenberg adopt the clear mindset to throw the ball away rather than take a sack.

Hackenberg has had his challenges setting and/or adjusting protections at the line of scrimmage from time to time too, according to insiders. He struggled with it when he took a handful of snaps with the starters recently. The lack of an experienced center has really hurt Hackenberg in that area.

Nick Mangold was invaluable during Mark Sanchez's rookie season as an extra set of eyes to identify pre-snap land mines. Hackenberg could sure use that, too.

An inexperienced wide receiving corps further complicates the quarterback's evaluation.

The Jets plan includes significant playing time for Hackenberg in the preseason, including the opener against the Titans this weekend. The hope is that he'll build some confidence and graduate to the next level.

No matter what happens, there will be no shortage of praise or panic

 

 

 

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8 minutes ago, Gas2No99 said:

The New York Daily News reports the Jets' "top priority" with Christian Hackenberg this summer has been to "gradually build (his) confidence."

Hackenberg has mostly been working with the 2s. The team apparently believes he's best served by racking up some layups against the second-team defense. Per columnist Manish Mehta, the "prevailing sentiment" is that Hackenberg is still holding onto the ball too long. Whichever way you look at it, it's hard to classify Hack's sophomore summer as promising, or what the Jets need to see. He'll be on the spot Saturday night against the Titans.
 
 
Aug 10 - 1:53 PM

 

**********************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************

How the Jets really feel about Christian Hackenberg: A behind-the-scenes look at their plan

NYC PAPERS OUT. Social media use restricted to low res file max 184 x 128 pixels and 72 dpi

Christian Hackenberg is working to build his confidence as a Jets backup quarterback.

(Howard Simmons/New York Daily News)

The legend of Christian Hackenberg has spun out of control in this information-hungry world that craves every nugget, no matter how irrelevant or incorrect it might be.

Remember, Hackenberg was a crazy, wild man a few months ago, supposedly plunking innocent scribes off in the distance with out-of-control passes. It's a wonder that such overblown nonsense didn't mushroom into a larger fable: Hey, I heard Hack side-swiped some poor old lady crossing the street in Morristown with an errant throw.

The latest tall tale from a blurb on the electronic superhighway erroneously claimed Hackenberg was sent off the field after a gaffe at a recent practice. Fantasy, of course, is much more appealing than reality.

The truth? New offensive coordinator John Morton wanted the second-year signal caller to sharpen his command in the huddle during a passing drill. It was a teaching moment for the fiery new offensive coordinator. Hackenberg took about five steps back and watched Bryce Petty step in. Moments later, Hackenberg got another chance and fired a bullet for a completion. He never came close to leaving the field.

Such is life these days for the most scrutinized football player in New York/New Jersey. So much is overblown.

I was critical of the curious plan for Hackenberg in the first week of training camp. The Jets, however, believe they've chosen the proper path by easing him along.

So, why hasn't Hackenberg received more first-team practice reps with the starters? (He worked with the backups in the first 7 of 10 practices.)

The top priority is to gradually build Hackenberg's confidence, according to team insiders.

The thinking is simple: If Hackenberg can bank some good plays against the second-team defense, it will propel him to the next step in his education. Morton and quarterbacks coach Jeremy Bates want Hackenberg to stack those moments to help prepare him for an upgrade in competition. So, the two coaches set forth a relatively conservative plan to bring him along.

The last thing the organization wanted or needed is for Leonard Williams, Sheldon Richardson and Mo Wilkerson to crush the young quarterback's soul by making life miserable for him at the outset of training camp.

There's a fine line between learning from your mistakes in practice and shattering your confidence because of those errors.

Before armchair psychologists chime in with the predictable "fragile psyche" narratives, consider that Hackenberg was sacked 103 times in 38 college games, including 82 times in his final two seasons behind a patchwork offensive line that included converted defensive linemen.

Hackenberg is the ultimate work in progress. Mistakes are inevitable. And practice is a time to learn from those mistakes.

Blowing those mistakes out of proportion is tempting for observers, but the organization doesn't have its collective head in the sand, either.

The brain trust is fully aware that it has to make a full and fair evaluation of Hackenberg by season's end, but the Jets will absolutely not rush his development to force him under center by Week 1 at Buffalo if he's not ready. They shouldn't rush his development, because the results — for everyone — could be disastrous.

Hackenberg.

Hackenberg.

(Seth Wenig/AP)

As of now, the Jets don't believe that Hackenberg is ready to start the season opener.

The prevailing sentiment on One Jets Drive is that he is still holding on to the ball too long. He needs to read defenses faster so that he can make quicker decisions, according to people in the know.

He's taken entirely too many "sacks" in 11-on-11 practice sessions to this point. (He's also holding it too long in 7-on-7 passing drills from time to time.)

Life is great wearing a red no-contact jersey in practice — it's easier to hold on to the ball a tick or two longer when there's no threat of bodily harm — but the Jets brain trust has legitimate concerns that Hackenberg will be a sitting duck who will inevitably get hurt in games if he doesn't speed up his decision-making in the pocket.

There's also a belief that Hackenberg has taken Morton's directive of taking care of the football to the extreme. It's a fair concern within the organization. Remember, Greg McElroy was concussed after getting sacked 11 times in his lone career start once upon a time. McElroy was so worried about not throwing an interception that he simply held on to the ball too long in a loss to the Chargers in 2012.

Playing turnover-free football obviously has its privileges, but there's a faction on One Jets Drive that thought Hackenberg was overly concerned with his streak of nine consecutive practices without an interception.

There's no need to overreact though. There aren't warring factions in the building. It's simply a part of the maturation process of a young quarterback. Clarity comes by calming down.

So, Bates is helping Hackenberg adopt the clear mindset to throw the ball away rather than take a sack.

Hackenberg has had his challenges setting and/or adjusting protections at the line of scrimmage from time to time too, according to insiders. He struggled with it when he took a handful of snaps with the starters recently. The lack of an experienced center has really hurt Hackenberg in that area.

Nick Mangold was invaluable during Mark Sanchez's rookie season as an extra set of eyes to identify pre-snap land mines. Hackenberg could sure use that, too.

An inexperienced wide receiving corps further complicates the quarterback's evaluation.

The Jets plan includes significant playing time for Hackenberg in the preseason, including the opener against the Titans this weekend. The hope is that he'll build some confidence and graduate to the next level.

No matter what happens, there will be no shortage of praise or panic

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, Gas2No99 said:

The last thing the organization wanted or needed is for Leonard Williams, Sheldon Richardson and Mo Wilkerson to crush the young quarterback's soul by making life miserable for him at the outset of training camp.

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Meanwhile, at band camp

http://www.rotoworld.com/player/NFL/12142

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The Kansas City Star reports Patrick Mahomes has been "impressive" in camp, and making "at least one eye-opening throw" per practice.
Per reporter Terez Paylor, "everyone in the organization, from the highest level on down" has been happy with Mahomes' camp. The buzz has certainly been building in recent days. Mahomes will make his exhibition debut against the 49ers on Friday. Aug 10 - 4:47 PM

 

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2 hours ago, Gas2No99 said:

The New York Daily News reports the Jets' "top priority" with Christian Hackenberg this summer has been to "gradually build (his) confidence."

Hackenberg has mostly been working with the 2s. The team apparently believes he's best served by racking up some layups against the second-team defense. Per columnist Manish Mehta, the "prevailing sentiment" is that Hackenberg is still holding onto the ball too long. Whichever way you look at it, it's hard to classify Hack's sophomore summer as promising, or what the Jets need to see. He'll be on the spot Saturday night against the Titans.
 
 
Aug 10 - 1:53 PM

 

**********************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************

How the Jets really feel about Christian Hackenberg: A behind-the-scenes look at their plan

NYC PAPERS OUT. Social media use restricted to low res file max 184 x 128 pixels and 72 dpi

Christian Hackenberg is working to build his confidence as a Jets backup quarterback.

(Howard Simmons/New York Daily News)

The legend of Christian Hackenberg has spun out of control in this information-hungry world that craves every nugget, no matter how irrelevant or incorrect it might be.

Remember, Hackenberg was a crazy, wild man a few months ago, supposedly plunking innocent scribes off in the distance with out-of-control passes. It's a wonder that such overblown nonsense didn't mushroom into a larger fable: Hey, I heard Hack side-swiped some poor old lady crossing the street in Morristown with an errant throw.

The latest tall tale from a blurb on the electronic superhighway erroneously claimed Hackenberg was sent off the field after a gaffe at a recent practice. Fantasy, of course, is much more appealing than reality.

The truth? New offensive coordinator John Morton wanted the second-year signal caller to sharpen his command in the huddle during a passing drill. It was a teaching moment for the fiery new offensive coordinator. Hackenberg took about five steps back and watched Bryce Petty step in. Moments later, Hackenberg got another chance and fired a bullet for a completion. He never came close to leaving the field.

Such is life these days for the most scrutinized football player in New York/New Jersey. So much is overblown.

I was critical of the curious plan for Hackenberg in the first week of training camp. The Jets, however, believe they've chosen the proper path by easing him along.

So, why hasn't Hackenberg received more first-team practice reps with the starters? (He worked with the backups in the first 7 of 10 practices.)

The top priority is to gradually build Hackenberg's confidence, according to team insiders.

The thinking is simple: If Hackenberg can bank some good plays against the second-team defense, it will propel him to the next step in his education. Morton and quarterbacks coach Jeremy Bates want Hackenberg to stack those moments to help prepare him for an upgrade in competition. So, the two coaches set forth a relatively conservative plan to bring him along.

The last thing the organization wanted or needed is for Leonard Williams, Sheldon Richardson and Mo Wilkerson to crush the young quarterback's soul by making life miserable for him at the outset of training camp.

There's a fine line between learning from your mistakes in practice and shattering your confidence because of those errors.

Before armchair psychologists chime in with the predictable "fragile psyche" narratives, consider that Hackenberg was sacked 103 times in 38 college games, including 82 times in his final two seasons behind a patchwork offensive line that included converted defensive linemen.

Hackenberg is the ultimate work in progress. Mistakes are inevitable. And practice is a time to learn from those mistakes.

Blowing those mistakes out of proportion is tempting for observers, but the organization doesn't have its collective head in the sand, either.

The brain trust is fully aware that it has to make a full and fair evaluation of Hackenberg by season's end, but the Jets will absolutely not rush his development to force him under center by Week 1 at Buffalo if he's not ready. They shouldn't rush his development, because the results — for everyone — could be disastrous.

Hackenberg.

Hackenberg.

(Seth Wenig/AP)

As of now, the Jets don't believe that Hackenberg is ready to start the season opener.

The prevailing sentiment on One Jets Drive is that he is still holding on to the ball too long. He needs to read defenses faster so that he can make quicker decisions, according to people in the know.

He's taken entirely too many "sacks" in 11-on-11 practice sessions to this point. (He's also holding it too long in 7-on-7 passing drills from time to time.)

Life is great wearing a red no-contact jersey in practice — it's easier to hold on to the ball a tick or two longer when there's no threat of bodily harm — but the Jets brain trust has legitimate concerns that Hackenberg will be a sitting duck who will inevitably get hurt in games if he doesn't speed up his decision-making in the pocket.

There's also a belief that Hackenberg has taken Morton's directive of taking care of the football to the extreme. It's a fair concern within the organization. Remember, Greg McElroy was concussed after getting sacked 11 times in his lone career start once upon a time. McElroy was so worried about not throwing an interception that he simply held on to the ball too long in a loss to the Chargers in 2012.

Playing turnover-free football obviously has its privileges, but there's a faction on One Jets Drive that thought Hackenberg was overly concerned with his streak of nine consecutive practices without an interception.

There's no need to overreact though. There aren't warring factions in the building. It's simply a part of the maturation process of a young quarterback. Clarity comes by calming down.

So, Bates is helping Hackenberg adopt the clear mindset to throw the ball away rather than take a sack.

Hackenberg has had his challenges setting and/or adjusting protections at the line of scrimmage from time to time too, according to insiders. He struggled with it when he took a handful of snaps with the starters recently. The lack of an experienced center has really hurt Hackenberg in that area.

Nick Mangold was invaluable during Mark Sanchez's rookie season as an extra set of eyes to identify pre-snap land mines. Hackenberg could sure use that, too.

An inexperienced wide receiving corps further complicates the quarterback's evaluation.

The Jets plan includes significant playing time for Hackenberg in the preseason, including the opener against the Titans this weekend. The hope is that he'll build some confidence and graduate to the next level.

No matter what happens, there will be no shortage of praise or panic

 

 

 

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TALK ABOUT A PIC BEING WORTH A THOUSAND WORDS.LMAO

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2 hours ago, Gas2No99 said:

The New York Daily News reports the Jets' "top priority" with Christian Hackenberg this summer has been to "gradually build (his) confidence."

Hackenberg has mostly been working with the 2s. The team apparently believes he's best served by racking up some layups against the second-team defense. Per columnist Manish Mehta, the "prevailing sentiment" is that Hackenberg is still holding onto the ball too long. Whichever way you look at it, it's hard to classify Hack's sophomore summer as promising, or what the Jets need to see. He'll be on the spot Saturday night against the Titans.
 
 
Aug 10 - 1:53 PM

 

**********************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************

How the Jets really feel about Christian Hackenberg: A behind-the-scenes look at their plan

NYC PAPERS OUT. Social media use restricted to low res file max 184 x 128 pixels and 72 dpi

Christian Hackenberg is working to build his confidence as a Jets backup quarterback.

(Howard Simmons/New York Daily News)

The legend of Christian Hackenberg has spun out of control in this information-hungry world that craves every nugget, no matter how irrelevant or incorrect it might be.

Remember, Hackenberg was a crazy, wild man a few months ago, supposedly plunking innocent scribes off in the distance with out-of-control passes. It's a wonder that such overblown nonsense didn't mushroom into a larger fable: Hey, I heard Hack side-swiped some poor old lady crossing the street in Morristown with an errant throw.

The latest tall tale from a blurb on the electronic superhighway erroneously claimed Hackenberg was sent off the field after a gaffe at a recent practice. Fantasy, of course, is much more appealing than reality.

The truth? New offensive coordinator John Morton wanted the second-year signal caller to sharpen his command in the huddle during a passing drill. It was a teaching moment for the fiery new offensive coordinator. Hackenberg took about five steps back and watched Bryce Petty step in. Moments later, Hackenberg got another chance and fired a bullet for a completion. He never came close to leaving the field.

Such is life these days for the most scrutinized football player in New York/New Jersey. So much is overblown.

I was critical of the curious plan for Hackenberg in the first week of training camp. The Jets, however, believe they've chosen the proper path by easing him along.

So, why hasn't Hackenberg received more first-team practice reps with the starters? (He worked with the backups in the first 7 of 10 practices.)

The top priority is to gradually build Hackenberg's confidence, according to team insiders.

The thinking is simple: If Hackenberg can bank some good plays against the second-team defense, it will propel him to the next step in his education. Morton and quarterbacks coach Jeremy Bates want Hackenberg to stack those moments to help prepare him for an upgrade in competition. So, the two coaches set forth a relatively conservative plan to bring him along.

The last thing the organization wanted or needed is for Leonard Williams, Sheldon Richardson and Mo Wilkerson to crush the young quarterback's soul by making life miserable for him at the outset of training camp.

There's a fine line between learning from your mistakes in practice and shattering your confidence because of those errors.

Before armchair psychologists chime in with the predictable "fragile psyche" narratives, consider that Hackenberg was sacked 103 times in 38 college games, including 82 times in his final two seasons behind a patchwork offensive line that included converted defensive linemen.

Hackenberg is the ultimate work in progress. Mistakes are inevitable. And practice is a time to learn from those mistakes.

Blowing those mistakes out of proportion is tempting for observers, but the organization doesn't have its collective head in the sand, either.

The brain trust is fully aware that it has to make a full and fair evaluation of Hackenberg by season's end, but the Jets will absolutely not rush his development to force him under center by Week 1 at Buffalo if he's not ready. They shouldn't rush his development, because the results — for everyone — could be disastrous.

Hackenberg.

Hackenberg.

(Seth Wenig/AP)

As of now, the Jets don't believe that Hackenberg is ready to start the season opener.

The prevailing sentiment on One Jets Drive is that he is still holding on to the ball too long. He needs to read defenses faster so that he can make quicker decisions, according to people in the know.

He's taken entirely too many "sacks" in 11-on-11 practice sessions to this point. (He's also holding it too long in 7-on-7 passing drills from time to time.)

Life is great wearing a red no-contact jersey in practice — it's easier to hold on to the ball a tick or two longer when there's no threat of bodily harm — but the Jets brain trust has legitimate concerns that Hackenberg will be a sitting duck who will inevitably get hurt in games if he doesn't speed up his decision-making in the pocket.

There's also a belief that Hackenberg has taken Morton's directive of taking care of the football to the extreme. It's a fair concern within the organization. Remember, Greg McElroy was concussed after getting sacked 11 times in his lone career start once upon a time. McElroy was so worried about not throwing an interception that he simply held on to the ball too long in a loss to the Chargers in 2012.

Playing turnover-free football obviously has its privileges, but there's a faction on One Jets Drive that thought Hackenberg was overly concerned with his streak of nine consecutive practices without an interception.

There's no need to overreact though. There aren't warring factions in the building. It's simply a part of the maturation process of a young quarterback. Clarity comes by calming down.

So, Bates is helping Hackenberg adopt the clear mindset to throw the ball away rather than take a sack.

Hackenberg has had his challenges setting and/or adjusting protections at the line of scrimmage from time to time too, according to insiders. He struggled with it when he took a handful of snaps with the starters recently. The lack of an experienced center has really hurt Hackenberg in that area.

Nick Mangold was invaluable during Mark Sanchez's rookie season as an extra set of eyes to identify pre-snap land mines. Hackenberg could sure use that, too.

An inexperienced wide receiving corps further complicates the quarterback's evaluation.

The Jets plan includes significant playing time for Hackenberg in the preseason, including the opener against the Titans this weekend. The hope is that he'll build some confidence and graduate to the next level.

No matter what happens, there will be no shortage of praise or panic

 

 

 

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maneesh is so friggin stupid.  just another example of him stirring up s&&t so he can sound like an expert.

hack needs to be thrown into the first team.  granted we don't want him crished by shelly wilk or leo in training camp.  that's why they wear the red shirt. at this point he just has to develop an internal clock that tells him to throw the damn ball.  as long as he throws it to an open receiver it will be a good thing.  and if he throws it away, that could be a good thing too.

and speaking of sack, wasn't obrien sacked something like 72 times one season?  3 per game is about 48 in a season.  not good but not that bad.

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I would have zero worries of hack being squished by mo wilk or shel rich who by the sounds of it have been non entitiesin camp  Williams on the other hand gets mentioned every day.

I'd be more worried that Wesly johnson snaps the ball and the rest of the team stays in their stance.

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We need to ignore that he was a second round draft pick.   He is just a QB that the Jets are developing.  His state of development is what it is.   He can be an asset to the team in some form, and he needs to be developed smartly.

But yes, using a second round pick with someone of his profile seems very wasteful.   Looking at where guys like Kaaya and Peterman just got picked, he was very overdrafted.  But that cost is sunk.

I think the Jets took the view that they would rather have Adams and take a QB next year.   There will also be FA QBs this offseason.  You can agree or differ with that view, but I think that is what they determined.  Let's see how Mahomes and Watson end up.  They were picked 10 and 12.  If the QB needy Jets thought they could play NFL QB, picking them at 6 would not have been horrible.  I think Macc is done if they end up good and we passed on them for a S, considering that there were other good S in the Second Round and later.

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1 hour ago, T0mShane said:

The good news is that hack is making 51% of his layups 

Better news for Manish is that this fanbase buys into the as relevance of camp long completion percentages.  Unless of course, drop passes and wrong routes all get blamed on the QB.  Takes a little more than that

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I'm VERY excited for Saturday's game it'll be AUGUST 2009 ALL OVER AGAIN!!!:

 

After preseason opener, the Mark Sanchez Christian Hackenberg era begins for the Jets

After taking only eight snaps in his NFL debut, Mark Sanchez Christian Hackenberg needs work if he's going to be the Jets' opening-day starter, which appears likely. Barring an upset, he will start the next game, Aug. 24 in Baltimore  Aug. 12 in Detroit - a night game against one of the league's top defenses all-time losing franchises.

Rex Ryan Todd Bowles was noncommittal after Saturday night's preseason opener, but he acknowledged, "(Sanchez Hackenberg) will definitely play more." The plan should be clear when the Jets resume two-a-days this morning at SUNY-Cortland Florham Park. Ryan Bowles has said he'd like to name a starter before the third game. 

As well as Sanchez  Hackenberg (3-for-4, 88 yards) played coming off the bench against the Titans Rams,  he was given a relatively vanilla game plan. Offensive coordinator Brian Schottenheimer Johnny Morton likes to run a motion offense, but there were motions and shifts on only two of Sanchez' Hackenberg's eight plays. In contrast, Kellen Clemens McCown, in his fourth 16th season in the system, ran motion on eight of 14 plays in a starting role. 

"It was one series, and it was some basic stuff out there," Sanchez said Hackenberg. "We'll do a lot more come next week, and maybe I'll see more playing time. As these things go on, you have to stay sharp, make completions and move the chains. I thought I did that (Friday night), but it's still early." 

Sanchez Hackenerbg did show poise in the face of two blitzes, finding the correct "hot" receivers - albeit one throw for an incompletion. WR Jerricho Cotchery Richie Anderson was impressed that the NON-rookie didn't lose his cool after his first pass was a 48-yard completion. 

"He came right back in the huddle, relaxed," Cotchery Anderson said. "Sometimes NON-rookies get so excited after making a play they can't calm down. He was ready to move on to the next play." 

 

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Better news for Manish is that this fanbase buys into the as relevance of camp long completion percentages.  Unless of course, drop passes and wrong routes all get blamed on the QB.  Takes a little more than that

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I do not believe a single word of this drivel. Manish is just literally stating his opinions and acting like it is fact.

And by the way, Hack has a couple of eye opening passes in every practice too, its just our media always wants to emphasize the negatives of this team

 

 

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Meanwhile, at band camp

http://www.rotoworld.com/player/NFL/12142

 

He's been working exclusively with the the 3rd team and as of Monday and "has a long way to go" according to the KC beat.  He's behind Tyler Bray right now.  I'm not saying he's not going to be anything but why worry when we will have our pick of the premier litter next year?  Adams looks like an all pro right now and Maye is right behind him.  Regardless with how you felt about the picks at draft time and how you feel about Macc and his future, that's good news.  For long-term, give me that combo + next year's QBs 11 times out of 10.  

T0mShane and I both said it and agreed (apocalypse) last week in the Watson thread: It was never Adams vs Mahomes/Watson/any 1st round QB, it was 1st round QB this year vs 1st round QB in any of the next 3 drafts (next year) which are all shaping up to be incredibly strong at the position; so why take a gamble on a weak class, let alone a prospect in Mahomes, who would be a 4th to 5th round guy in any of those next three drafts?

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What, uh, hmm. I, uh. Ok. But. Alright so what criteria do you think, um, well, so. Ok, 

You watch them live, you review the tape of practices later.  Pretty straightforward.  Also, like I tried to say earlier, just looking at numbers doesnt tell you which QB got the worst of the WRs, who had the most drops or missed routes lowering his %.

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