Jetscode1 Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Bills trade Sammy Watkins to Rams, get Jordan Matthews from Eagles Posted by Michael David Smith on August 11, 2017, 12:56 PM EDT Getty Images Three years after using two first-round draft picks and a fourth-round draft pick to acquire him, the Bills are moving on from Sammy Watkins. Watkins, the talented but so far disappointing wide receiver, has been traded to the Rams. To replace him, the Bills have acquired receiver Jordan Matthewsfrom the Eagles. The Bills announced that they’ve shipped Watkins and a sixth-round draft pick to the Rams for cornerback E.J. Gaines and a second-round draft pick. Separately, the Bills announced that they sent cornerback Ronald Darby to the Eagles for Jordan Matthews and a third-round draft pick. The twin trades come out of left field and are significant for all three teams involved. But it’s the Bills who are making the biggest change, with the new regime cutting ties with Watkins, whom the previous regime considered a franchise cornerstone. This represents a significant change in Buffalo, and a pretty big change in L.A. and Philly as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Wow, didnt see this coming Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gas2No99 Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 They traded a SOLID Press Cover CB in Darby for Butter hands MAtthews?!?!?! DARBY >>>>>>J. Matthews Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetscanes331 Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Would have liked either on the Jets but we don't have anything besides draft picks. Want to hold on to those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Just now, jetscanes331 said: Would have liked either on the Jets but we don't have anything besides draft picks. Want to hold on to those. Watkins is always hurt. No thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetscode1 Posted August 11, 2017 Author Share Posted August 11, 2017 2 minutes ago, Gas2No99 said: They traded a SOLID Press Cover CB in Darby for Butter hands MAtthews?!?!?! DARBY >>>>>>J. Matthews Yeah, I thought the same especially after losing Gilmore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASH1962 Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 2 minutes ago, jetscanes331 said: Would have liked either on the Jets but we don't have anything besides draft picks. Want to hold on to those. Agreed. Have to admit I will not miss seeing #15's back running up and down the field twice a year, despite his injury history. He burned our asses a few times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Bills now have two firsts, two seconds, and two thirds next year. They're in excellent position to trade up for the QB of their dreams and still have plenty of picks left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 3 minutes ago, slats said: Bills now have two firsts, two seconds, and two thirds next year. They're in excellent position to trade up for the QB of their dreams and still have plenty of picks left. not if the jets can tank successfully.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whodeawhodat Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 3 minutes ago, slats said: Bills now have two firsts, two seconds, and two thirds next year. They're in excellent position to trade up for the QB of their dreams and still have plenty of picks left. IF they need to trade up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gas2No99 Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Just now, slats said: Bills now have two firsts, two seconds, and two thirds next year. They're in excellent position to trade up for the QB of their dreams and still have plenty of picks left. Mr. N. Peterman implores you give him a chance before talking about 2018 QB draft picks . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRy56 Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 I'm still of the belief that the Bills are going to be the worst team in the division when it's all said and done this season. This doesn't help them at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 4 minutes ago, ASH1962 said: Agreed. Have to admit I will not miss seeing #15's back running up and down the field twice a year, despite his injury history. He burned our asses a few times. Looking back, he had 2 good games out of 6 against the Jets. I was surprised thought he did more damage than that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 2 minutes ago, Augustiniak said: not if the jets can tank successfully.... If that were the case the Bills could have tanked just as easily Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetscode1 Posted August 11, 2017 Author Share Posted August 11, 2017 Just now, BigRy56 said: I'm still of the belief that the Bills are going to be the worst team in the division when it's all said and done this season. This doesn't help them at all. The get the picks but I'm with you they are not willing to let the Jets tank without competition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinstar Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 1 minute ago, BigRy56 said: I'm still of the belief that the Bills are going to be the worst team in the division when it's all said and done this season. This doesn't help them at all. I agree, and what's worst, this looks more like an attempt at tanking than anything the jets have done . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Bills are not sitting on their asses that is for sure. I still think Watkins can be a very good player in this league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCJet Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 7 minutes ago, slats said: Bills now have two firsts, two seconds, and two thirds next year. They're in excellent position to trade up for the QB of their dreams and still have plenty of picks left. That haul of picks virtually assures the Bills of easily being able to get to any spot in the top 3 for a QB. We all should be big Tyrod Taylor fans this season - hoping he has a good season and they dont look to upgrade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 I thought the Jets were a 1 or 0 win team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCJet Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 The downgrade from Watkins to Matthews is not much at all. However Darby was playing well at CB and I dont think EJ Gaines is much of a game-altering CB. So basically a downgrade at CB in exchange for a second and third round pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge4Tide Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Good trades for us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obrien2Toon Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Really happy for Watkins. Gets out of buffalo, was wasting his talent. Hes going to blow up in LA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinstar Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 2 minutes ago, BCJet said: The downgrade from Watkins to Matthews is not much at all. However Darby was playing well at CB and I dont think EJ Gaines is much of a game-altering CB. So basically a downgrade at CB in exchange for a second and third round pick. Sammy Watkins when healthy has proven to be a much better player than Mathews and it's not even close . The Bills talent level took a big dump today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDL_JET Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Smart moves IMO. They're loaded up for the 2018 draft. Watkins is too iffy with his injury history, getting a 2nd back is pretty nice return. But I don't think we have to worry about them stealing our tanking spotlight! They're still a 7-9 team like last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinstar Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 2 minutes ago, Obrien2Toon said: Really happy for Watkins. Gets out of buffalo, was wasting his talent. Hes going to blow up in LA When he was drafted I thought it was a terrible fit placing a home sick Florida kid in the freezing cold of Buffalo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 24 minutes ago, slats said: Bills now have two firsts, two seconds, and two thirds next year. They're in excellent position to trade up for the QB of their dreams and still have plenty of picks left. No safeties though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 All 3 teams just got better. Eagles can now put Agholor in the slot where he belongs, and added a very nice corner. Bills now have a stockpile of picks Rams finally get their first true WR1 since, what....Torry Holt? Pretty crucial piece for a team with a young QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCJet Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 4 minutes ago, Tinstar said: Sammy Watkins when healthy has proven to be a much better player than Mathews and it's not even close . The Bills talent level took a big dump today I dont disagree - but when healthy is an enormous caveat. The guy has a bad injury that has lingered for years, its a huge difference in risk that the Bills no longer have to deal with. From a talent standpoint its not close, but health is a huge issues Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 20 minutes ago, Jet Nut said: I thought the Jets were a 1 or 0 win team? Can probably get to six wins now and really prosper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 The Rams are the most talented crappy team in NFL history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gas2No99 Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 1 minute ago, BCJet said: I dont disagree - but when healthy is an enormous caveat. The guy has a bad injury that has lingered for years, its a huge difference in risk that the Bills no longer have to deal with. From a talent standpoint its not close, but health is a huge issues Considering he's not reliable HEALTH-wise and due to be a FA next spring, Bills liquidated a HIGHLY depreciated asset in Watkins by getting a 2nd rounder and a zone/nickel back in EJ Gaines (who's outplayed his draft status). They have a new defensive HC and neophyte GM who is locked & loaded to make an aggressive move for a Top QB prospect in '18; T.Taylor restructured and is a FA in MArch '18. Our current CBs (Burris, Claiborne) can match up better vs. Matthews than Watkins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 8 minutes ago, BCJet said: I dont disagree - but when healthy is an enormous caveat. The guy has a bad injury that has lingered for years, its a huge difference in risk that the Bills no longer have to deal with. From a talent standpoint its not close, but health is a huge issues Unless they found something chronic how do you quantify injury. They can happen to anyone, anytime. I don't see how a past injury equates to a higher risk of future injury for any given player. Maybe besides a running back due to running style or something, but not a WR, I don't get that. Watkins is an all pro talent vs a JAg. I'd be super pissed as a Bills fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 7 minutes ago, HessStation said: Unless they found something chronic how do you quantify injury. They can happen to anyone, anytime. I don't see how a past injury equates to a higher risk of future injury for any given player. Maybe besides a running back due to running style or something, but not a WR, I don't get that. Watkins is an all pro talent vs a JAg. I'd be super pissed as a Bills fan. I believe the real problem with Watkins is that he's an out and out A-hole supreme who thinks he's aloooooot better than he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 7 minutes ago, HessStation said: Unless they found something chronic how do you quantify injury. They can happen to anyone, anytime. I don't see how a past injury equates to a higher risk of future injury for any given player. Maybe besides a running back due to running style or something, but not a WR, I don't get that. So you don't think some human beings are simply more fragile than others? Chad Pennington is a great example of one of those. Some guys just don't get enough calcium, or just simply don't have the DNA to be football players. Athletes, yes, but maybe not football players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glenn31 Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 1 minute ago, T0mShane said: I believe the real problem with Watkins is that he's an out and out A-hole supreme who thinks he's aloooooot better than he is. I received notification of this post of yours literally at the same time as Dr. Oz said "bacteria in your feces..." And that's not a veiled shot or anything, that's just what happened Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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