WFAN/Francesa at Jets Camp today

[Bleedin Green]

4 hours ago, Adoni Beast said:

This definitely isn't a popular opinion, but I think that Mangini should be brought in as head of football operations. (Of course that will never happen with the way Woody betrayed Mangini in 2008). I believe he was way more influential in the talent influx that this team had between 2008-2010, than Tannenbaum.

Mangini knows how to build a team, he knows football, just could not connect with players, which will always hinder him from being a successful head coach

But he had this team on the right track. Once he was gone the influx of home grown talent took a nose dive.  

This concept of Mangini is one invented by Jets fans many years after he was gone, when we all got sick of Tanny and some decided that meant he no longer was allowed to be given any of the credit for any degree of success the team had.  I'm also not sure how exactly Mangini is supposedly due to be credited for that "talent influx" period which includes two years that he was in Cleveland.

When you think about it, the theory is that a guy who's resume featured a grand total of one season as a DC immediately became the GM-in-hiding, making all of the decisions above two long-time Jets FO members (Tanny and Bradway) the team went out of it's way to retain both of.  If you want to credit Mangini for doing that, then he also gets the blame for an all-time level bust with Gholston.

The guy is completely out of the NFL, unable to even get position coach jobs anymore, but some Jets fans are so infatuated with a supposed front office prowess that apparently no NFL teams see?  It's so strange.

[T0mShane]

6 hours ago, Matt39 said:

Bowles like Rex, doesnt look at the job like a HC should. He looks at it like he's still DC. Every year the Jets offense sucks, the year ends, then there's 4 months in between the end of the season and the draft where the organization forgets how bad the offense actually was. Bowles wants the defense to look good more than anything...and just like Rex he gets over excited when a top D prospect falls to us in the draft. Fast forward to training camp and the offense still sucks. Repeat. Honestly if the draft occurred closer to the end of the season we probably always wouldnt be picking defense first.

This is a good point. Bowles and Rex saw offense as a thing that happens in their neighbor's yard that they have no control over. As it relates to the draft, the imaginary Ops guy could be the one to step in tell them they're not drafting two safeties.