T0mShane Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 1 minute ago, JetsFanatic said: The Jets are not going to bring in Kaepernick because McCown is their starter, at least in the early part of the season. They can try saying that, and it'd be true, but if Petty goes on IR and that roster spot opens up, it's a can of worms. If I were them, I'd either avoid IRing Petty or I'd go trade for somebody's backup to cover my ass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanatic Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 15 minutes ago, T0mShane said: They can try saying that, and it'd be true, but if Petty goes on IR and that roster spot opens up, it's a can of worms. If I were them, I'd either avoid IRing Petty or I'd go trade for somebody's backup to cover my ass I understand what you are saying, but they have to do the right thing for the team and screw the politics. If this team were close to winning Keapernick would make more sense. He is not a good fit for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor99 Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 9 hours ago, UnitedWhofans said: He walked off the field under his own power, right? If he did then he'll start Remember when Kris Jenkins walked off under his own power? He was a 350 lber on a shredded knee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor99 Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 1 hour ago, T0mShane said: allegedly progressive NY This made me lol. I agree with your point 100%, though. Add in our Douchebag beat writers, and it's going to get ugly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet_Engine1 Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 1 hour ago, Kleckineau said: Namath would have put duct tape on that knee, knocked down a fifth of JW Blue and then just played. Joe liked Red. They didnt have the blue in his day, anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 4 minutes ago, JetsFanatic said: I understand what you are saying, but they have to do the right thing for the team and screw the politics. If this team were close to winning Keapernick would make more sense. He is not a good fit for us. If Petty is out, the Jets are effectively abandoning the QB position anyway. The only way they can publicly justify not signing Kaepernick is by admitting they want to win zero games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 3 minutes ago, Thor99 said: This made me lol. I agree with your point 100%, though. Add in our Douchebag beat writers, and it's going to get ugly. It's going to be so much fun!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 No way they will bring in Colin here as I see it- the level of scrunity and media frenzy would be crazy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LIJetsFan Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 2 hours ago, T0mShane said: If Petty is out for the season and we sign some bullsh*t like Bethel McLeod Johnson, the Jets are going to become THE target of every ounce of pro-Kaepernick energy currently out there. Perfect storm, really. The team literally has nothing to lose (on the field) by signing him, the QBs they have left are non-entities, the owner is a paid Trump appointee, it's allegedly progressive NY, and--unlike Seattle--the national media isn't going to give the Jets any cover for obviously passing on him. If I'm the Jets moving forward, I don't care if they amputate Petty's leg--I don't put him on IR unless I'm prepared to sign Kaepernick, or until someone else signs him first. The pro-Kaepernick movement is looking for that one team with no plausible excuses to pass on him, and here we are. It's gonna be great lol. I seriously take Johnny football first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAR I Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 9 hours ago, Beerfish said: I have the perfect candidate when he shakes loose after the last ex game. It would make me so happy to see him physically battered and destroyed behind that offensive line. I would pay good money to see that every week. SAR I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 Just now, LIJetsFan said: I seriously take Johnny football first. As a fan of total chaos, I'm all for it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 Hack starts all year, every game. McCown is the #2. Petty to IR. We sign some kid off someone else's PS or the street who lost out in this years camp battles. What happens, happens. No reason, this year, to do anything else. No Kap (get f'ed). No RG3. And no, no Geno Smith. And then we better hope whatever curse this franchise is operating under expires in our lifetime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prime21 Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 Because you can count on our bad fortunes, the Kap situation is on the horizon if Petty is done. Attention will be focused on us as to why a team like us with a 38 year QB and Hack as the back up would not bring him in. If we do bring him in, it's a circus. Next year isn't promised for all those so called great QB's that could be in the draft. Bring Kap in, face all that media attention through the first game as he takes a knee and then let it blow over. I really don't see all the media attention after the his 1st game in uniform where've he may play. The fans outrage at his signing? Just add it to the plate as we have enough things to be outraged at with this franchise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor99 Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 I guess they could float the idea that Petty could return and put him on short term IR. Would be a good enough reason to pretend that we don't need to sign Kap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantasy Island Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 Kap can't be signed here. It would just be too much. Bad enough they cut Mangold, but to bring in that lightning rod is not going to do anything but drive away fans and produce the same record we will have without him. When trying to extinguish a dumpster fire you don't use gasoline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 This mornings headlines............ Jets cannot afford to do this quarterback dance any longer Jets quarterback competition is over after Christian Hackenberg proves he clearly isn’t ready against Giants Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 35 minutes ago, Thor99 said: I guess they could float the idea that Petty could return and put him on short term IR. Would be a good enough reason to pretend that we don't need to sign Kap. you dont need to pretend, you just dont. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 36 minutes ago, Thor99 said: I guess they could float the idea that Petty could return and put him on short term IR. Would be a good enough reason to pretend that we don't need to sign Kap. That's the route, imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTL Jet Fan Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 1 hour ago, T0mShane said: They can try saying that, and it'd be true, but if Petty goes on IR and that roster spot opens up, it's a can of worms. If I were them, I'd either avoid IRing Petty or I'd go trade for somebody's backup to cover my ass Ok so football move aside, what would be a better PR move for the Trump appointed Woody. The pro Kap crowd and media would be shocked and would be praising Woody. I would love to hear Dick's and Manish's reaction which if they support it would be a smart move if they bash it they would more likely get ridiculed. I am not advocating any of this as I stay the F*ck out of politics, but it would be interesting how all of the sports media, players and fans would react. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 21 minutes ago, Fantasy Island said: Kap can't be signed here. It would just be too much. Bad enough they cut Mangold, but to bring in that lightning rod is not going to do anything but drive away fans and produce the same record we will have without him. When trying to extinguish a dumpster fire you don't use gasoline. I'm not advocating signing him, but what if they did sign him and he was really good? Isn't Jeremy Bates supposed to be a savant? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 Signing Kaepernick is so NY Jets we win the media hype game that and we desperately need a QB. 'Desperate times call for desperate measures' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 2 minutes ago, FTL Jet Fan said: Ok so football move aside, what would be a better PR move for the Trump appointed Woody. The pro Kap crowd and media would be shocked and would be praising Woody. I would love to hear Dick's and Manish's reaction which if they support it would be a smart move if they bash it they would more likely get ridiculed. I am not advocating any of this as I stay the F*ck out of politics, but it would be interesting how all of the sports media, players and fans would react. It really would be fascinating to watch. You'd get a bunch of antagonistic headlines locally (Police union issuing a statement, season ticket holder burns jersey! Pig socks pic on the front of the Post, etc), but what if he was actually good? Nationally, the Jets would come off looking pretty slick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTL Jet Fan Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 1 minute ago, T0mShane said: It really would be fascinating to watch. You'd get a bunch of antagonistic headlines locally (Police union issuing a statement, season ticket holder burns jersey! Pig socks pic on the front of the Post, etc), but what if he was actually good? Nationally, the Jets would come off looking pretty slick. This could be a season for the record books. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy2020 Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 Don't worry, boys! There's a safety riding into town on a white horse! QB position will be obsolete in a few years...replaced by a safety. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDL_JET Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 1 hour ago, Warfish said: Hack starts all year, every game. McCown is the #2. Petty to IR. We sign some kid off someone else's PS or the street who lost out in this years camp battles. What happens, happens. No reason, this year, to do anything else. No Kap (get f'ed). No RG3. And no, no Geno Smith. And then we better hope whatever curse this franchise is operating under expires in our lifetime. This is what should happen. Mostly for the fact that I don't want McCown to slip and win us a game and screw us over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Mart Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 David J. Chao, MD @ProFootballDoc By video, suspect MCL sprain, not ACL tear. With a little luck, #BrycePetty could be ready for season or soon thereafter with a brace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Mart Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 He's just like Cimini, Mehta & Hughes...Nothing but a pos. pure trash. Brian Costello @BrianCoz If Petty is out, Jets are going to have to sign a QB for Thursday’s game. I say sign Manziel and Kaepernick, give them both a half. Why not make it interesting for the beat writers D? That is my priority Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyLV Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 14 minutes ago, C Mart said: David J. Chao, MD @ProFootballDoc By video, suspect MCL sprain, not ACL tear. With a little luck, #BrycePetty could be ready for season or soon thereafter with a brace. If it is a MCL sprain that is awesome. If Petty can play and does NOT start and Boiwles starts McClown anyway he should be fired on the spot. Does Bowles actually think we dont remember that McClown sucks moose cock at QB? Seriously, WTF? And then we have to trade for a safety? A friggin safety? Is safety all of a sudden the most important position on the team. And on a team with no CB we trade one who seems to finally be emerging for a safety? Mac and Bowles are hopelessly clueless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Mart Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 1 minute ago, johnnysd said: If it is a MCL sprain that is awesome. If Petty can play and does NOT start and Boiwles starts McClown anyway he should be fired on the spot. Does Bowles actually think we dont remember that McClown sucks moose cock at QB? Seriously, WTF? And then we have to trade for a safety? A friggin safety? Is safety all of a sudden the most important position on the team. And on a team with no CB we trade one who seems to finally be emerging for a safety? Mac and Bowles are hopelessly clueless. Read some thoughts in the McDougle trade thread..Not difficult to understand the trade logic. All I can say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 21 minutes ago, C Mart said: If Petty is out, Jets are going to have to sign a QB for Thursday’s game. I say sign Manziel and Kaepernick, give them both a half. This Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike135 Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 I just hope it's a guy who can run a pro system. No Kaepernick/Tebow types. I'm already enjoying seeing the young WRs develop. Why ruin it with a gimmicks QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 11 hours ago, thadude said: HIS OL AT PSU GAVE HIM NO PROTECTION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Everything is James Franklin's fault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 June is here, the NFL Draft is past, and some big-name quarterbacks are still on the market. Tony Romo and Jay Cutler quit football for TV, but we're still waiting to see what happens to Jimmy Garoppolo and even Brock Osweiler. All that means there's a lot of intrigue left at the QB position. Can we expect any surprises between now and the start of the season? Which QBs will have a job next season and which ones won't? Here's a look at the QBs who remain unsigned, ranked from worst to best. Getty Images Stephen Lam/Getty Images-Thearon 10 Thad Lewis Lewis hasn't taken regular-season snaps since 2013, which pretty much tells you he's not much better than a practice squad player. He's been released twice by the Browns and spent last season on IR with the 49ers, who lost 14 games and haven't offered any of their 2016 quarterbacks contracts for next season. Cary Edmondson 9 Bruce Gradkowski Gradkowski is 34, hasn't taken a regular-season snap since 2014 and hasn't started since 2010. His career completion rate of 52.9 percent is bottom of the barrel. His hometown team, Pittsburgh, placed him on IR in the preseason last year and then released him. That's probably the sign that it's time to retire and groom his son to be QB of the Las Vegas Raiders. USA TODAY Sport Charles LeClaire 8 Dan Orlovsky Orlovsky, 33, didn't play a single regular-season snap last year and hasn't started since 2011. But he believes Mike Glennon is a starting QB, so maybe there's hope for him, too. This spring he's back at his alma mater UConn as an assistant. Sadly, he probably will be best remembered for running out of his own end zone in his first start, resulting in a safety that proved the difference in a 12-10 Lions loss to the Vikings. Tom Dahlin Getty Images 7 Charlie Whitehurst Whitehurst, also 34, is nicknamed "Clipboard Jesus" because of his flowing hair and his career as a backup QB. The Browns saw one game of him last season and have not offered him a new contract. 6 Ryan Nassib Nassib has made a (brief) career out of holding the clipboard while Eli Manning starts every single game for the Giants. That limited role has left him with a pretty cool resume: nine completions in 10 career passes and a 152.1 rating. However, Nassib wasn't very impressive in the preseason last year, is coming off elbow surgery and has been replaced by Geno Smith. Ouch. His brother Carl is a defensive end in Cleveland, and that team always needs QBs. 5 Johnny Manziel A team would have to be completely convinced that Manziel has matured before it brings him in to compete for a job. Teams don't tolerate distractions from backup QBs, and Manziel has yet to prove he can be a professional. However the 2012 Heisman winner is just 24 and possesses the talent that made him a first-round draft pick. He's still trying to get back in the league, most recently working out with Odell Beckhamm Jr. John Rieger John Rieger-USA TODAY Sports 4 Christian Ponder Ponder, a first-round pick by Minnesota in 2011, lasted just two seasons as starter before being derailed by injury and losing his job. He signed with Oakland, Denver and San Francisco the past two seasons without ever playing a regular-season snap. Ponder has started 36 of his 38 career games. Still, the QB-starved Niners did not give him a start last season despite some players declaring him better than Blaine Gabbert. 3 Shaun Hill Hill has beaten out plenty of guys for jobs, including Austin Davis, making 35 starts in his 11-year career. But the Vikings were so unenthused about the prospect of starting him last year when Teddy Bridgewater went down that they traded two first-rounders for Sam Bradford. Hill wasn't happy, the Vikes' season didn't end well, and now he's back on the market at age 37. Hill still should be able to get a job on the strength of his career numbers: 61.8 percent completion rate, 49 TDs passes and 30 INTs. Joe Nicholson-USA TODAY Sports Joe Nicholson 2 Robert Griffin III RG3's attempt to jump start his once-promising career in Cleveland never got off the ground with a 1-15 Browns team. He got hurt in the season opener and didn't return to the lineup until Week 13. By then the Browns were a wreck and RG3 didn't have much chance to change that, though he did lead them to their only win. No longer the running threat he was as a rookie, he still has an arm and perhaps could improve as a pocket passer on a better team. He's just 27 but has yet to show he can stay healthy, leading the Browns to turn the page on yet another QB. AP 1 Colin Kaepernick We're almost three months into free agency and Kaepernick is still unsigned. Some NFL writers and fans attribute this to the controversy surrounding Kaepernick, while FOX Sports' Dieter Kurtenbach is among those who insist he's not been signed simply because he's not that good anymore. Critics point to his 3-16 record the past two seasons and poor completion rate (59.8 percent). Supporters point out he has the second-best career interception rate (1.8%) in NFL history, a TD/INT ratio of 72 to 30 and an 88.9 passer rating. Which do we believe in? While Kaepernick was a lightning rod last year, if his anthem protest is over, it's very possible that he'll be able to better focus on football and enjoy a fresh start with his body and mind stronger than they've been the past two years. Remember, Kaepernick took the 49ers to the Super Bowl in 2012 and almost again in 2013. Even last year, as the Niners went 2-14, he had a 398-yard game against New Orleans and threw for 296 and ran for 113 at Miami. Kaepernick, now 29, seems more mature off the field. The question is, how dedicated is he to football? Will he work to fix his flaws and be a locker room leader? Or will his passion for using his platform to promote activism distract from football? If Kap is committed to his career, it could take off again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 At this point, line up RGIII(getting creamed and injured is his natural state anyway)Manziel, Kaep and every other warm body who is a plausible QB and see what they can do. Got nothing to lose. Not likely to find anyone who blows you away but they need to have 3 QBs over a 16 game season with this sh!tbag OL . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Mart Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 8 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: This I didn't say that. Costello, the pos, did Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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