jgb Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 Yes, smart fans are "supposed" to buy into the tank, the complete rebuild, the search for The One.. problem is this current situation was CREATED by the regime in power. Horrendous drafting, legendary whiff on Hackenever, and going all-in on last season with Fitz. Fact is, if Macc has announced full rebuild upon joining, ok. But he made the moves that put us in a worse situation and now wants to sell us on his plan? I learned from following politics all my life--never trust the people who created the problems to fix the problems. Macc and Bowles are putrid, legendarily horrible. A rebuild starts with those two. /mic drop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 No argument here, does anyone know how to get ahold of the Fire Idzik guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thadude Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 It's the same snobs who thought Brian Schottenheimer was one of the best offensive coordinators in the NFL and are wrong about everything else Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thadude Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 Just now, joewilly12 said: No argument here, does anyone know how to get ahold of the Fire Idzik guys. Send up a couple balloons holding the banner so it can be up above Florham Park all week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munchmemory Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 This "regime" is just another in an endless regimen of colonic exams. Anesthesia free colonic exams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted August 27, 2017 Author Share Posted August 27, 2017 Just now, munchmemory said: This "regime" is just another in an endless regimen of colonic exams. Anesthesia free colonic exams. I guess we can grind back against the finger and try to enjoy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munchmemory Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 Just now, jgb said: I guess we can grind back against the finger and try to enjoy... RLLOL! That's hot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 Mike Maccagnan pick........ Second-year tackle Brandon Shell had a terrible game. Shell got the start at right tackle, but was abused by Giants star Jason Pierre-Paul. On one play, Pierre-Paul blew past Shell to tackle Matt Forte in the end zone for a safety. Then Pierre-Paul clubbed Shell and send him flying for a few yards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted August 27, 2017 Author Share Posted August 27, 2017 4 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: Mike Maccagnan pick........ Second-year tackle Brandon Shell had a terrible game. Shell got the start at right tackle, but was abused by Giants star Jason Pierre-Paul. On one play, Pierre-Paul blew past Shell to tackle Matt Forte in the end zone for a safety. Then Pierre-Paul clubbed Shell and send him flying for a few yards. Next we'll hear that Shell lost to JPP in paper-rock-scissors, Hey genius get a clue he's going rock EVERY TIME. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Better2bgreenthanblue Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 No worries fellas. Sam Darnold is ours...no way we are winning a game over the next 2 years. I'm looking forward to the 2021 strike shortened season as we should be a playoff caliber team on the upswing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted August 27, 2017 Author Share Posted August 27, 2017 10 minutes ago, Better2bgreenthanblue said: No worries fellas. Sam Darnold is ours...no way we are winning a game over the next 2 years. I'm looking forward to the 2021 strike shortened season as we should be a playoff caliber team on the upswing. Pats week 17 when they rest their starters and play to lose to screw the Jets, Bowles will take it like a kid takes an apple with a razor blade on Halloween. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetdawgg Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 11 minutes ago, Better2bgreenthanblue said: No worries fellas. Sam Darnold is ours...no way we are winning a game over the next 2 years. I'm looking forward to the 2021 strike shortened season as we should be a playoff caliber team on the upswing. Really? With this Bozo of a GM selecting the groceries in the draft and over paying for worn out FA's? How many UDFA's does it take to win a SB? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 6 minutes ago, Better2bgreenthanblue said: No worries fellas. Sam Darnold is ours...no way we are winning a game over the next 2 years. I'm looking forward to the 2021 strike shortened season as we should be a playoff caliber team on the upswing. Woody is in a tough spot. The current regime are the people Woody wants to hire and the people who work for Woody. Some thing needs to change with Woody before anything else changes. I think Shell plays better. He was up against JPP. The Hack pick is going cost Mac is job. It was just indefensible. He will be around a long time, but he needs a lot of development and experience. But even if the Jets were planning on drafting a QB in 2018, Petty is brittle and McCown is temporary. They could have upgraded the QB position overall this year. If the Jets lose the Peterman and the Bills, Mac should resign on the spot. Instead of Peterman we have Dylan Donahue. As we saw before, just because a change is needed, you don't create the breakage unless it isn't an improvement This ain't improving unless Woody hires someone who can tell him to keep his nose out of the team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCJet Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 55 minutes ago, jgb said: Yes, smart fans are "supposed" to buy into the tank, the complete rebuild, the search for The One.. problem is this current situation was CREATED by the regime in power. Horrendous drafting, legendary whiff on Hackenever, and going all-in on last season with Fitz. Fact is, if Macc has announced full rebuild upon joining, ok. But he made the moves that put us in a worse situation and now wants to sell us on his plan? I learned from following politics all my life--never trust the people who created the problems to fix the problems. Macc and Bowles are putrid, legendarily horrible. A rebuild starts with those two. /mic drop What should Mac have done at QB in 2016 instead of going "all in" on Fitzpatrick. If you want to complain about Mac, you need to give an example of what he should have done. Did we pass on a QB for fitzpatrick? Last night was a horrendous display, but saying that Mac is to blame for all of this is ridiculous. He added veteran players in 2015 with the hopes of having a quick rebuild, and the team won 10 games. That plan then fell apart in 2016, so he cut bait with the veterans and now is in a legitimate rebuild. Did he make an enormous whiff on Hack, yes. But can we let the young players play before saying they all suck and he should be fired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted August 27, 2017 Author Share Posted August 27, 2017 Just now, BCJet said: What should Mac have done at QB in 2016 instead of going "all in" on Fitzpatrick. If you want to complain about Mac, you need to give an example of what he should have done. Did we pass on a QB for fitzpatrick? Last night was a horrendous display, but saying that Mac is to blame for all of this is ridiculous. He added veteran players in 2015 with the hopes of having a quick rebuild, and the team won 10 games. That plan then fell apart in 2016, so he cut bait with the veterans and now is in a legitimate rebuild. Did he make an enormous whiff on Hack, yes. But can we let the young players play before saying they all suck and he should be fired. I'll give an example: don't draft the most pathetic excuse for a prospect ever in Rd. 2. Your move, cupcake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 Just now, BCJet said: What should Mac have done at QB in 2016 instead of going "all in" on Fitzpatrick. If you want to complain about Mac, you need to give an example of what he should have done. Did we pass on a QB for fitzpatrick? Last night was a horrendous display, but saying that Mac is to blame for all of this is ridiculous. He added veteran players in 2015 with the hopes of having a quick rebuild, and the team won 10 games. That plan then fell apart in 2016, so he cut bait with the veterans and now is in a legitimate rebuild. Did he make an enormous whiff on Hack, yes. But can we let the young players play before saying they all suck and he should be fired. This roster is worse than it was when Macc was hired. He got rid of savvy veterans who kept us at a decent level and replaced them with scrubs, if not for the NY Jets most wouldn't be in the NFL. We needed a QB and he took 2 safeties with pick 1-2 in the 2017 draft. He thinks Hackenberg is an NFL QB. Should I continue? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted August 27, 2017 Author Share Posted August 27, 2017 Just now, joewilly12 said: This roster is worse than it was when Macc was hired. He got rid of savvy veterans who kept us at a decent level and replaced them with scrubs, if not for the NY Jets most wouldn't be in the NFL. We needed a QB and he took 2 safeties with pick 1-2 in the 2017 draft. He thinks Hackenberg is an NFL QB. Should I continue? Please do, I'm enjoying this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 2 minutes ago, jgb said: Please do, I'm enjoying this Our OL could be the worst in the NFL. Our DC is a moron and should have been fired after last season. We don't have a #1 WR just a bunch of JAGS. Our LB's are the softest in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 Kotite led to 12-4 and the only outright division title I can remember These guys are so bad, we might get a franchise QB out of it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rillo Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 Hackenever, I love it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W. Namath Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 Mac < Idzik. Bowles < Rex It's unbelieve how it got this bad. Mac is just horrible. A disaster of a gm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munchmemory Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 2 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: This roster is worse than it was when Macc was hired. He got rid of savvy veterans who kept us at a decent level and replaced them with scrubs, if not for the NY Jets most wouldn't be in the NFL. We needed a QB and he took 2 safeties with pick 1-2 in the 2017 draft. He thinks Hackenberg is an NFL QB. Should I continue? Max, you need to give JW a weekly podcast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted August 27, 2017 Author Share Posted August 27, 2017 3 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: Our OL could be the worst in the NFL. Our DC is a moron and should have been fired after last season. We don't have a #1 WR just a bunch of JAGS. OL neglect killed Herm and Rex and soon, Bowles. It's a Jets tradition. At this point we should all be discussing whether The Curse of Pete Kendall is real or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike135 Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 I agree the Fitz re-signing was a fireable offense. Just a disgracefully incompetant decision. However if they manage to enter the 2018 offseason with a top 3 draft pick, like 90 million in cap space, and a team of young guys who have developed nicely during the tank... Amazingly that would make up for sh*tz. And I wouldn't mind giving them a couple more years to see what they can do. However I definitely would not just give them a "prove it" year. With a top rookie QB, I want consistency at coach and GM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetdawgg Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 2 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: This roster is worse than it was when Macc was hired. He got rid of savvy veterans who kept us at a decent level and replaced them with scrubs, if not for the NY Jets most wouldn't be in the NFL. We needed a QB and he took 2 safeties with pick 1-2 in the 2017 draft. He thinks Hackenberg is an NFL QB. Should I continue? Three drafts and no speedy Pass Rusher. Still a log jam at DT. Big Money Mo. No bruiser at RB. NO QB!!!! OL in shambles...this after three drafts. Macc is over his head. The roster is STILL unbalanced. Even worse than Idiotzik. Clearly the O needed a younger veteran QB if the roster was going to purged like this. That QB could have carried the team a bit, 2/3 years while the other QB's develop. All this talk of th next draft is pathetic. The Jets FO has had three drafts to fix the problems left by Idiotzik and this is now a declared disaster. FEMA could not help the Jets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 Mike friggen Nugget our draft pick of a kicker on the Giants helping defeat us thats how bad it is! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetdawgg Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 9 minutes ago, Larz said: Kotite led to 12-4 and the only outright division title I can remember These guys are so bad, we might get a franchise QB out of it Would you trust Macc to select the next QB? No f'n way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 Just now, Jetdawgg said: Would you trust Macc to select the next QB? No f'n way HELL NO and I don't want to hear he cant miss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCJet Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 11 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: This roster is worse than it was when Macc was hired. He got rid of savvy veterans who kept us at a decent level and replaced them with scrubs, if not for the NY Jets most wouldn't be in the NFL. We needed a QB and he took 2 safeties with pick 1-2 in the 2017 draft. He thinks Hackenberg is an NFL QB. Should I continue? So the fact that the year prior to Mac getting here has produced one backup lineman (Dakota Dozier) and one good WR (Enunwa) and no other players on the entire roster doesnt matter. Think about that - you guys are killing Mac saying his picks suck, do you know what sucking is? Sucking is having 12 picks result in one above average player. As for needing a QB in this draft, how did watson look last night? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 3 minutes ago, BCJet said: So the fact that the year prior to Mac getting here has produced one backup lineman (Dakota Dozier) and one good WR (Enunwa) and no other players on the entire roster doesnt matter. Think about that - you guys are killing Mac saying his picks suck, do you know what sucking is? Sucking is having 12 picks result in one above average player. As for needing a QB in this draft, how did watson look last night? The problem is we aren't any better we haven't improved one damn bit theres more holes in this roster than any other NFL roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted August 27, 2017 Author Share Posted August 27, 2017 6 minutes ago, BCJet said: So the fact that the year prior to Mac getting here has produced one backup lineman (Dakota Dozier) and one good WR (Enunwa) and no other players on the entire roster doesnt matter. Think about that - you guys are killing Mac saying his picks suck, do you know what sucking is? Sucking is having 12 picks result in one above average player. As for needing a QB in this draft, how did watson look last night? Remind me not to hire you as a lawyer if I get in trouble. "Well, your Honor, he isn't as bad as Charles Manson..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 23 minutes ago, Jetdawgg said: Would you trust Macc to select the next QB? No f'n way After the Williams and Adams pick, yes Mac has made a ton of mistakes, but he didn't pass on Sapp or Reed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCJet Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 12 minutes ago, jgb said: Remind me not to hire you as a lawyer if I get in trouble. "Well, your Honor, he isn't as bad as Charles Manson..." Um no, that isnt my point at all. My point is that a 53 man roster can't be put together in 3 seasons, had Mac been left with ANYTHING, even one good player, that would have made an astronomical difference. Until we see what we really have in Jordan Jenkins, Lee, Adams/Maye, Shell, Robby Anderson and Stewart/Hansen its impossible to judge Mac as a success or failure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted August 27, 2017 Author Share Posted August 27, 2017 3 minutes ago, BCJet said: Um no, that isnt my point at all. My point is that a 53 man roster can't be put together in 3 seasons, had Mac been left with ANYTHING, even one good player, that would have made an astronomical difference. Until we see what we really have in Jordan Jenkins, Lee, Adams/Maye, Shell, Robby Anderson and Stewart/Hansen its impossible to judge Mac as a success or failure. 'Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, I know jgb stands accused of horrible crimes but once every 3 years he buys girl scout cookies from the kid down the street." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCJet Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 5 minutes ago, jgb said: 'Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, I know jgb stands accused of horrible crimes but once every 3 years he buys girl scout cookies from the kid down the street." "Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, I know there is zero empirical evidence and the little speculative evidence we do have hasn't been fully analyzed yet, but lets make a decision now" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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