UnitedWhofans Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 The way he has handled this QB rotation in this preseason has been brilliant, IMO. He knows McCown is not the future, so he wants to get good look at the other two young QBs. If McCown ends up starting, and he's rusty; who gives a crap? This is not a season to worry about short term success. If Petty ends up starting, good for him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 He did everything possible to make sure the best QB on the roster got almost no looks at all giving him a whopping 5 or 6 reps. Said Qb fights through it and shows he is the best QB on the roster and now bowles is a genius. Sounds about right. We better give him an A+ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted August 28, 2017 Author Share Posted August 28, 2017 Just now, Beerfish said: He did everything possible to make sure the best QB on the roster got almost no looks at all giving him a whopping 5 or 6 reps. Said Qb fights through it and shows he is the best QB on the roster and now bowles is a genius. Sounds about right. We better give him an A+ WHo gives a sh*t if McCown doesnt get any reps? I don't. I don't care. This season is not about winning. This has been known since February Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetdawgg Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 4 minutes ago, Beerfish said: He did everything possible to make sure the best QB on the roster got almost no looks at all giving him a whopping 5 or 6 reps. Said Qb fights through it and shows he is the best QB on the roster and now bowles is a genius. Sounds about right. We better give him an A+ NYJ logic...go figure. Even N Tesla would fail Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted August 28, 2017 Author Share Posted August 28, 2017 Just now, Jetdawgg said: NYJ logic...go figure. Even N Tesla would fail It would be bad logic, if this season were strictly about winning games only. It isn't. and people should know this by now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 7 minutes ago, Beerfish said: He did everything possible to make sure the best QB on the roster got almost no looks at all giving him a whopping 5 or 6 reps. Said Qb fights through it and shows he is the best QB on the roster and now bowles is a genius. Sounds about right. We better give him an A+ Only because there is no A++ option, correct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTownsell1 Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 8 minutes ago, UnitedWhofans said: The way he has handled this QB rotation in this preseason has been brilliant, IMO. He knows McCown is not the future, so he wants to get good look at the other two young QBs. If McCown ends up starting, and he's rusty; who gives a crap? This is not a season to worry about short term success. If Petty ends up starting, good for him I wouldn't call him brilliant but I agree with his strategy. This wasn't the preseason to worry about getting a 38 year old journeyman QB ready to go 6-10. If he's rusty and we end up winning 4 games instead of 6, even better. Many here aren't smart enough to grasp that. Which is sad to think that the dope bowles is actually smarter than most sojf posters on this board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTownsell1 Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 8 minutes ago, Beerfish said: He did everything possible to make sure the best QB on the roster got almost no looks at all giving him a whopping 5 or 6 reps. Said Qb fights through it and shows he is the best QB on the roster and now bowles is a genius. Sounds about right. We better give him an A+ So if you were head coach this season you would have gone all in on McCown so that he's ready to lead this team to what exactly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 If Bowles plan was to play the QBs so that Hack looked terrible and Petty looked good, it worked to a T. In all likelihood, had he switched playing them, the results would have been somewhat reversed. Petty looks better this year than last. Hack needs another year in development to be perhaps a backup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanatic Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 I thought Bowles handled the QB position the right way. If I had to knitpick, I wish Petty would have seen some snaps against the Giants 1st string defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted August 28, 2017 Author Share Posted August 28, 2017 Just now, JetsFanatic said: I thought Bowles handled the QB position the right way. If I had to knitpick, I wish Petty would have seen some snaps against the Giants 1st string defense. Honestly though, the Giants defense is a deep defense. I noted this before. They had Eli Apple, a first round pick playing with the second team defense. Their defense is deep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdels62 Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 10 minutes ago, UnitedWhofans said: WHo gives a sh*t if McCown doesnt get any reps? I don't. I don't care. This season is not about winning. This has been known since February Pretty sure he's talking about Petty. Because before that second preseason game Petty had received 5-6 team reps a practice and a quarter against Tennessee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted August 28, 2017 Author Share Posted August 28, 2017 Just now, kdels62 said: Pretty sure he's talking about Petty. Because before that second preseason game Petty had received 5-6 team reps a practice and a quarter against Tennessee. OK. So? That seems like a fair amount, before the second preseason game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 Something happened a couple weeks ago that caused Bowles to do a complete 180 in the way he approached the QBs. McCown went from getting the majority of the reps to none, and Petty went from almost none to getting reps with the starters. I don't know if it's because of McCown or Petty's performance, or because of a directive or internal discussions where they simply concluded that there was no point in starting McCown this year - something they should've realized from the start. Better late than never, but Petty, in particular, lost a lot of valuable reps early. He might've had a better chance to win the starting job had they giving him a fairer shot from the start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted August 28, 2017 Author Share Posted August 28, 2017 Just now, slats said: Something happened a couple weeks ago that caused Bowles to do a complete 180 in the way he approached the QBs. McCown went from getting the majority of the reps to none, and Petty went from almost none to getting reps with the starters. I don't know if it's because of McCown or Petty's performance, or because of a directive or internal discussions where they simply concluded that there was no point in starting McCown this year - something they should've realized from the start. Better late than never, but Petty, in particular, lost a lot of valuable reps early. He might've had a better chance to win the starting job had they giving him a fairer shot from the start. Meh. I still think he's getting enough. And dont forget, he started games last year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdels62 Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 1 minute ago, UnitedWhofans said: Meh. I still think he's getting enough. Okay you're wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupz27 Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 1 minute ago, slats said: Something happened a couple weeks ago that caused Bowles to do a complete 180 in the way he approached the QBs. McCown went from getting the majority of the reps to none, and Petty went from almost none to getting reps with the starters. I don't know if it's because of McCown or Petty's performance, or because of a directive or internal discussions where they simply concluded that there was no point in starting McCown this year - something they should've realized from the start. Better late than never, but Petty, in particular, lost a lot of valuable reps early. He might've had a better chance to win the starting job had they giving him a fairer shot from the start. Agreed, but there could be one more scenario with Petty early in camp, maybe he was slow in picking up the new offense, and after the Lions game, or just before he caught up, and started to understand the new scheme? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted August 28, 2017 Author Share Posted August 28, 2017 Just now, kdels62 said: Okay you're wrong If he had started getting major reps last week before the Giants game, then I would be concerned. But he got a quarter of play against the Titans, he started getting major reps the week after that game entering the Detroit game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetspenguin Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 I think he played hack because he needed the most reps...plain and simple. He knew what he had in petty from last year, knew that mcclown was/is a bum and since this upcoming draft is a priority lets see if the kid can hack it. If it is abundantly clear he cannot then he wont be seeing any reps this season anyway because it will be either petty or the clown. ...basically it was now or next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 5 minutes ago, slats said: Something happened a couple weeks ago that caused Bowles to do a complete 180 in the way he approached the QBs. McCown went from getting the majority of the reps to none, and Petty went from almost none to getting reps with the starters. I don't know if it's because of McCown or Petty's performance, or because of a directive or internal discussions where they simply concluded that there was no point in starting McCown this year - something they should've realized from the start. Better late than never, but Petty, in particular, lost a lot of valuable reps early. He might've had a better chance to win the starting job had they giving him a fairer shot from the start. Agree IMO what happened a few weeks ago was Macc hit Bowles on the head and said, "play both the kids. I want to see if my draft picks can play before we turn the team over to an old journeyman". Hack made Bowles look smart, for giving ALL the #1 reps to McCown. Petty made him look stupid for only giving him 4-5 reps a practice with the scout team. Stay tuned Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 21 minutes ago, JoJoTownsell1 said: I wouldn't call him brilliant but I agree with his strategy. This wasn't the preseason to worry about getting a 38 year old journeyman QB ready to go 6-10. If he's rusty and we end up winning 4 games instead of 6, even better. Many here aren't smart enough to grasp that. Which is sad to think that the dope bowles is actually smarter than most sojf posters on this board. No reason to attack people just because they disagree with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 5 minutes ago, jetspenguin said: I think he played hack because he needed the most reps...plain and simple. He knew what he had in petty from last year, knew that mcclown was/is a bum and since this upcoming draft is a priority lets see if the kid can hack it. If it is abundantly clear he cannot then he wont be seeing any reps this season anyway because it will be either petty or the clown. ...basically it was now or next year. This. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 7 minutes ago, flgreen said: Agree IMO what happened a few weeks ago was Macc hit Bowles on the head and said, "play both the kids. I want to see if my draft picks can play before we turn the team over to an old journeyman". Hack made Bowles look smart, for giving ALL the #1 reps to McCown. Petty made him look stupid for only giving him 4-5 reps a practice with the scout team. Stay tuned Yeah, I tend to agree that it had to be something like this. Either a directive from the owner who seems to be 100% on board with the youth movement, or Mac got Bowles' ear and convinced him that the kids were the way to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 lmfao Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 This thread = All the evidence you need to know Bowles is a lost cause. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drsamuel84 Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 1 hour ago, slats said: Something happened a couple weeks ago that caused Bowles to do a complete 180 in the way he approached the QBs. McCown went from getting the majority of the reps to none, and Petty went from almost none to getting reps with the starters. I don't know if it's because of McCown or Petty's performance, or because of a directive or internal discussions where they simply concluded that there was no point in starting McCown this year - something they should've realized from the start. Better late than never, but Petty, in particular, lost a lot of valuable reps early. He might've had a better chance to win the starting job had they giving him a fairer shot from the start. Maybe Hack has been worse than they thought shifting the discussion to Petty. The FO knows there's no point in playing McCown and even though they may not be high on Petty they obviously see the benefit of playing him over McCown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 6 minutes ago, drsamuel84 said: Maybe Hack has been worse than they thought shifting the discussion to Petty. The FO knows there's no point in playing McCown and even though they may not be high on Petty they obviously see the benefit of playing him over McCown. Hack's reps didn't change, though. McCown and Petty swapped work, that was the change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blaq218 Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 I know it's popular to question Bowles' decisions here but this was actually a smart move. He gave 2 young QBs more reps than a 38 year old perennial losing journey man QB. It was the right decision. Now his decision to play Sheldon at OLB is another story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 Lets extend this guy!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyLV Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 2 hours ago, Beerfish said: He did everything possible to make sure the best QB on the roster got almost no looks at all giving him a whopping 5 or 6 reps. Said Qb fights through it and shows he is the best QB on the roster and now bowles is a genius. Sounds about right. We better give him an A+ You forgot the part where McClown has already been committed to starting by Bowles, and there was never any competition. Bowles has wanted Fitz 2.0 from Day 1. Maybe he will shock me and name Petty starter which he should be. It was not that Petty was good Saturday he was the best player on the field. BTW, A Stewart and Hansen both look like they can be decent #2 level receivers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony MaC Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 Bowles has been allocating QB reps in a way that didn't make sense to anybody outside of his staff from the very start. There may well have been a method to his madness or a plan from the start. Or maybe there was a change of plan last week. Its kind of impossible to tell. In the end we might never know exactly why he did what he did unless somebody directly involved tells us. What's most important is that after all this a logical conclusion is reached and Bowles can say why he made it without relying on the tired cliché "He gives us the best chance to win". That logical conclusion should probably be "Bryce is our starter". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupz27 Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 8 minutes ago, johnnysd said: You forgot the part where McClown has already been committed to starting by Bowles, and there was never any competition. Bowles has wanted Fitz 2.0 from Day 1. Maybe he will shock me and name Petty starter which he should be. It was not that Petty was good Saturday he was the best player on the field. BTW, A Stewart and Hansen both look like they can be decent #2 level receivers. Jets starting offense for Week 1 should be QB Petty RB Powell TE Legget (ASJ Week 3) WR 1 Anderson WR 2 Hansen WR Slot A Stewart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyLV Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 13 minutes ago, Lupz27 said: Jets starting offense for Week 1 should be QB Petty RB Powell TE Legget (ASJ Week 3) WR 1 Anderson WR 2 Hansen WR Slot A Stewart Exactly my thought. Peake would be #3 receiver, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike135 Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 18 minutes ago, Lupz27 said: Jets starting offense for Week 1 should be QB Petty RB Powell TE Legget (ASJ Week 3) WR 1 Anderson WR 2 Hansen WR Slot A Stewart Agreed. Except I don't have a preference at all between Hack/Petty. Just so long as McCown doesn't play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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