AFJF Posted September 1, 2017 Author Share Posted September 1, 2017 So we go from "there's no way in hell Mac gets a second for Sheldon. Reports of second round pick is fake news" Mac gets a second rounder and a veteran receiver and it's "Oh my god, Mac is so stupid for making this deal" Much hilarity ensues.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 3 minutes ago, Jet9 said: Nice deflection. He's got you, dude. Listen here, weird Internet guy that's defending Pickleballs, Pickleballs does not got me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYallDay Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Stupidest trade, this team under Macc, and Bowles just keep getting worse! Strongly disagree. Great trade. Got great value for a player who is about to be a FA and we were not resigning him. Got. 2nd rounder, 7th rounder swap, and a 2/3 wr. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 3 minutes ago, 56mehl56 said: Here are the Patriots 1st round picks siince 1999 only 4 are on their roster (Mccourty, Solder, Hightower & Brown) The notion that this only happens to the Jets is comical. 17 Damien Woody † C Boston College [31] 28 Andy Katzenmoyer LB Ohio State [32] 2000 — No pick — — [33] 2001 6 Richard Seymour † DT Georgia 2002 21 Daniel Graham TE Colorado [34] 2003 13 Ty Warren DT Texas A&M [35] 2004 21 Vince Wilfork † DT Miami (FL) [36] 32 Benjamin Watson TE Georgia 2005 32 Logan Mankins † OG Fresno State 2006 21 Laurence Maroney RB Minnesota 2007 24 Brandon Meriweather † S Miami (FL) [37] 2008 10 Jerod Mayo † LB Tennessee [38] 2009 — No pick — — [39] 2010 27 Devin McCourty † CB/S Rutgers [40] 2011 17 Nate Solder OT Colorado 2012 21 Chandler Jones † DE Syracuse 25 Dont'a Hightower † LB Alabama 2013 — No pick — — 2014 29 Dominique Easley DT Florida 2015 32 Malcom Brown DT Texas 2016 — No pick — — [41] 2017 — No pick — — [42] I wonder what the difference is between the situations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSteve Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 1 hour ago, MDL_JET said: Draft considerations aka peanuts. Giving good players away. Whatever dude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted September 1, 2017 Author Share Posted September 1, 2017 When the only beat writer ripping this move is Manish, you know it's a good deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Of lesser importance, peake is a goner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet9 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 1 minute ago, RutgersJetFan said: Listen here, weird Internet guy that's defending Pickleballs, Pickleballs does not got me. Why is he pickleballs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony MaC Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Just now, flgreen said: Richardson's been caught 4 times. Once they are busted they can test them anytime they want. And they do Ah, I see. The rues around pot have got to change in a league with this many players who can actually use it for its best purposes. But that's an argument for another day... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Mostro Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 21 minutes ago, Jet9 said: No more guaranteed $. Seattle saves $1.83 million in dead cap in 2018 were they to cut him then -- a very likely scenario based on who they have at WR now. Unloading his $2.2 million 2017 salary offsets about 25% of Richardsons money for this season. Prudent move for Seattle to move a guy they did not want/need for financial reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 5 minutes ago, jetspenguin said: All people do is whine about how great the browns are for getting picks and how smart their rebuilding plan is........there was just a thread about mac not getting picks the other day...and now he does EXACTLY what people complained he doesnt do (trade an expiring player for a high pick) and the whining continues............. Unbelievable. 3 minutes ago, AFJF said: So we go from "there's no way in hell Mac gets a second for Sheldon. Reports of second round pick is fake news" Mac gets a second rounder and a veteran receiver and it's "Oh my god, Mac is so stupid for making this deal" Much hilarity ensues.... I haven't read the whole thread, but I'm going to hazard a guess that the people complaining about Maccagnan not getting more picks and the people complaining about this deal are two entirely different groups of people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSteve Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 47 minutes ago, Jetster said: He would have walked away for nothing after a 4 win season, lol, and we still have people complaining? I don't get this fan base, Sheldon Richardson is a bad influence on a rebuilding young team. He's a tremendous football player but a complete jerk! A guy like Belichick would probably have cut him after his 120 MPH fun ride, smoking weed with a 12 year old in the car. Good riddance, we would have sucked with him or without him. Keep your eye on the prize Jet fans & that's a QB in the 2018 draft! Rudolph looked pretty f*cking good man! There's a few guys to watch this year & let's hope we get a shot at one of them. That 2nd could be huge. Don't bother; it goes against the agenda.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 1 minute ago, Jet9 said: Why is he pickleballs? Honey if you have to ask you can't afford it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 1 minute ago, jetspenguin said: All people do is whine about how great the browns are for getting picks and how smart their rebuilding plan is........there was just a thread about mac not getting picks the other day...and now he does EXACTLY what people complained he doesnt do (trade an expiring player for a high pick) and the whining continues............. Unbelievable. Not really. It's 2 separate groups of people . The people complaining in the other thread were complaining about Macc asking to much for Mo and Shelly, and unable to get anything done. The people complaining in this thread are a different group who think Sheldon was going to be an impact player this year, and shouldn't have been traded Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bealeb319 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Next year's class is incredibly deep, not just at QB. If we don't screw up the tank, we have a chance to rectify the Idzik 12. At least We got enunwa out of the idzik 12. Honestly if all we get worth anything from next year's draft is a franchise qb should we even complain? I'd be happy with just that.Sent from my LGUS991 using JetNation.com mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet9 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Just now, RutgersJetFan said: Honey if you have to ask you can't afford it. Only pickleball I know is that game the old folks play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetspenguin Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 2 minutes ago, dbatesman said: I haven't read the whole thread, but I'm going to hazard a guess that the people complaining about Maccagnan not getting more picks and the people complaining about this deal are two entirely different groups of people. lol no....same people...in fact one guy I wont call out in one post went on about how mac sucked for this trade and then like 8 post later said it was a good trade and mac did a good job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bealeb319 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 I wish people could look at this trade in a vacuum instead of being a deal Mac made. People are so far in their corner of either liking Mac or hating his guts that it's skewing their viewpoint... This happens with everything in life. Sports, politics... We paint ourselves so far into a corner with a viewpoint that we defend it to the death before we'll let ourselves view it rationally. Anyway. Pretty good deal I would say. I give it a B+. We shipped away a criminal who is one mistake away from a long suspension and on the last year of his contract. He is going to demand more money than the entire cap space to sign with someone. The Seahawks upgraded our receiving core and gave us a second round pick in a deep draft to take a player we made very obvious we didn't even want...what the heck would we have to do for you to give an A?Sent from my LGUS991 using JetNation.com mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetspenguin Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 3 minutes ago, flgreen said: Not really. It's 2 separate groups of people . The people complaining in the other thread were complaining about Macc asking to much for Mo and Shelly, and unable to get anything done. The people complaining in this thread are a different group who think Sheldon was going to be an impact player this year, and shouldn't have been traded uh....no...some people are the same...... @Tomshane says hi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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flgreen Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 1 minute ago, jetspenguin said: uh....no...some people are the same...... @Tomshane says hi You said people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 12 minutes ago, 56mehl56 said: Here are the Patriots 1st round picks siince 1999 only 4 are on their roster (Mccourty, Solder, Hightower & Brown) The notion that this only happens to the Jets is comical. 17 Damien Woody † C Boston College [31] 28 Andy Katzenmoyer LB Ohio State [32] 2000 — No pick — — [33] 2001 6 Richard Seymour † DT Georgia 2002 21 Daniel Graham TE Colorado [34] 2003 13 Ty Warren DT Texas A&M [35] 2004 21 Vince Wilfork † DT Miami (FL) [36] 32 Benjamin Watson TE Georgia 2005 32 Logan Mankins † OG Fresno State 2006 21 Laurence Maroney RB Minnesota 2007 24 Brandon Meriweather † S Miami (FL) [37] 2008 10 Jerod Mayo † LB Tennessee [38] 2009 — No pick — — [39] 2010 27 Devin McCourty † CB/S Rutgers [40] 2011 17 Nate Solder OT Colorado 2012 21 Chandler Jones † DE Syracuse 25 Dont'a Hightower † LB Alabama 2013 — No pick — — 2014 29 Dominique Easley DT Florida 2015 32 Malcom Brown DT Texas 2016 — No pick — — [41] 2017 — No pick — — [42] In fairness to the Pats, it's a bit trickier to hold onto 1st round picks when you keep getting stripped of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Fantasy Island Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 6 minutes ago, bealeb319 said: At least We got enunwa out of the idzik 12. Honestly if all we get worth anything from next year's draft is a franchise qb should we even complain? I'd be happy with just that. Sent from my LGUS991 using JetNation.com mobile app and a Tackle that can block. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Bowl before I die Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 1 hour ago, CanadaSteve said: Can't wait to hear all the responses from this one considering everyone wanted him gone. What's the speed limit in Seattle ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetFaninMI Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 1 hour ago, Stark said: It's legal to smoke in Washington state. so he's good. Wow thats right. Sheldon must be happy as a pig in sh*t. They got a 3rd rounder for him and Kearse. I'm fine with it. I would have been happy just to get the 3rd rounder for him so I'm good. Kearse must be bummed though. At least he is still getting paid to play. Unless of course he is cut which would not surprise me at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 4 minutes ago, jetspenguin said: uh....no...some people are the same...... @Tomshane says hi In all honesty when the trade first came out it looked like all they got was Kearse. That's close to just cutting him. Once the 2nd was announced, it looks like a very good deal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYallDay Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Wow thats right. Sheldon must be happy as a pig in sh*t. They got a 3rd rounder for him and Kearse. I'm fine with it. I would have been happy just to get the 3rd rounder for him so I'm good. Kearse must be bummed though. At least he is still getting paid to play. Unless of course he is cut which would not surprise me at all. 2nd rounderSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j4jets Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 1 hour ago, JetNation said: After close to two years of on and off speculation regarding the Jets’ efforts to deal star defensive lineman Sheldon Richardson, Mike Maccagnan has finally pulled the trigger on a deal that will send the highly talented, yet equally polarizing defensive lineman to the Seahawks in exchange for a Jermaine Kearse and an undisclosed draft pick. Waving goodbye: Sheldon Richardson is finally on his way out of New York. Ian Rapoport of the NFL network says that he expects the pick to be a 2nd or 3rd rounder. The trade follows recent speculation that the Jets were once again actively trying to move Richardson after reportedly turning down a second round pick at the trade deadline last season from the Dallas Cowboys. According to overthecap.com, the Jets will be saddled with $8 million in dead money as a result of the deal with zero savings. Click here to read the full story... Unless you know something I don't, Jets should be be on the hook for anything. He wasn't released. Seahawks took over his fully guaranteed year. $8mil of straight cap savings minus Kearse's salary. Not a bad deal. We got an OK WR and a 2nd for an elite talent, albeit immature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darook Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 1 hour ago, Lego My Lageman said: The only bad part of the deal is every 2nd rounder we've every taken is terrible minus Harris. exactly what i was thinking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Mart Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 12 minutes ago, Augustiniak said: Of lesser importance, peake is a goner. Bowles made a comment last night when asked if any guys helped themselves last night. He said some did and some disappeared..Peake came to mind regarding the latter... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets Voice of Reason Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Good move. Needed to happen. Jets need draft assets badly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted September 1, 2017 Author Share Posted September 1, 2017 3 minutes ago, j4jets said: Unless you know something I don't, Jets should be be on the hook for anything. He wasn't released. Seahawks took over his fully guaranteed year. $8mil of straight cap savings minus Kearse's salary. Not a bad deal. We got an OK WR and a 2nd for an elite talent, albeit immature. Trying to get confirmation and was only able to find what OTC had. I thought they were off the hook but nobody was reporting anything on it so went with what OTC #'s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 1 minute ago, flgreen said: In all honesty when the trade first came out it looked like all they got was Kearse. That's close to just cutting him. Once the 2nd was announced, it looks like a very good deal If it was Sheldon for Kearse, as much as I wanted him gone, that definitely would have been a bad deal. With the second rounder coming, that is obviously the important part of the deal, and makes Kearse's involvement in this trade rather minimal. It essentially works out to a 2nd for Sheldon, and the Jets trading down in the 7th for Kearse. Quite frankly, I'm hoping that both Stewart and Hansen are passing Kearse by on the depth chart by season's end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the Claw Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Another fun fact: The Jets have had 13 first round picks over the last 10 drafts. Only 3 of them are on the team right now. This includes Adams. Negatory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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