KRL Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 I know most of the "tank" fanbase is focusing on the QB's in the draft but there is another scenario people should keep in mind. The front office could be focusing on going after Garrapolo in free agency. With him they would be getting a 25 year old who has been trained by Belichick, McDaniel & Brady for 4 years and doesn't have to "transition" to the pros. Once he's signed then the team could auction off their high pick and use those picks (11 or 12??) to surround Garrapolo with talent. Just speculating Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 Agree the other QB many are overlooking as well is Jacoby Brissett the kid seems to have what it takes to be successful in the NFL. KRL your scenario is a good one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSteve Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 THAT would be interesting.... Here is a wonky trade proposal I saw online. People would CRUCIFY Mac for doing this: https://nflmocks.com/2017/08/31/2018-nfl-mock-draft-jets-strike-gold-in-blockbuster-trade/?utm_campaign=FanSided+Daily&utm_source=FanSided+Daily&utm_medium=email Everybody is ready to assume the New York Jets, the runaway favorites for the #1 pick, in this 2018 NFL mock draft and others, will take the top QB. Sure it makes sense in the overall view. Quarterback is their weakest position and its dogged them for decades. At the same time it’s important to remember this isn’t a team having a down year. The Jets are bad and likely will be a long way from contention even if they take the top QB on the board. So why not auction the pick off to the highest bidder? It’s been done before. Based on this scenario that’s exactly what they do, and get a large return for it. 1. Jacksonville Jaguars (via NYJ) Jaguars get #1 pick and take Sam Darnold Jets get #4 pick, 2nd in 2018, 1st in 2019, 2nd in 2019, and 1st in 2020 4. New York Jets (via Jax) Connor Williams OT Texas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupz27 Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 15 minutes ago, KRL said: I know most of the "tank" fanbase is focusing on the QB's in the draft but there is another scenario people should keep in mind. The front office could be focusing on going after Garrapolo in free agency. With him they would be getting a 25 year old who has been trained by Belichick, McDaniel & Brady for 4 years and doesn't have to "transition" to the pros. Once he's signed then the team could auction off their high pick and use those picks (11 or 12??) to surround Garrapolo with talent. Just speculating The Patriots will NEVER let Jimmy G walk for nothing, they will do the same thing they did with Cassell, Franchise him, and sell him to the highest bidder, and I have my own speculation that McDaniels will take a HC job with Bill's blessing, and have a hand shake agreement on some compensation for a franchised Jimmy G in place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupz27 Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 7 minutes ago, CanadaSteve said: THAT would be interesting.... Here is a wonky trade proposal I saw online. People would CRUCIFY Mac for doing this: https://nflmocks.com/2017/08/31/2018-nfl-mock-draft-jets-strike-gold-in-blockbuster-trade/?utm_campaign=FanSided+Daily&utm_source=FanSided+Daily&utm_medium=email Everybody is ready to assume the New York Jets, the runaway favorites for the #1 pick, in this 2018 NFL mock draft and others, will take the top QB. Sure it makes sense in the overall view. Quarterback is their weakest position and its dogged them for decades. At the same time it’s important to remember this isn’t a team having a down year. The Jets are bad and likely will be a long way from contention even if they take the top QB on the board. So why not auction the pick off to the highest bidder? It’s been done before. Based on this scenario that’s exactly what they do, and get a large return for it. 1. Jacksonville Jaguars (via NYJ) Jaguars get #1 pick and take Sam Darnold Jets get #4 pick, 2nd in 2018, 1st in 2019, 2nd in 2019, and 1st in 2020 4. New York Jets (via Jax) Connor Williams OT Texas Epic fail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Mostro Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 It's the Jets, guys. We'll wind up with Osweiler and draft DL or S in the 1st round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionelRichie Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 21 minutes ago, KRL said: I know most of the "tank" fanbase is focusing on the QB's in the draft but there is another scenario people should keep in mind. The front office could be focusing on going after Garrapolo in free agency. With him they would be getting a 25 year old who has been trained by Belichick, McDaniel & Brady for 4 years and doesn't have to "transition" to the pros. Once he's signed then the team could auction off their high pick and use those picks (11 or 12??) to surround Garrapolo with talent. Just speculating Let's see what kind of year Darnold has before anointing him #1 overall. We already have 1 QB on the team who looked like a can't miss prospect as a freshman. If Darnold does have another epic year then I think you have take him #1. Where it gets interesting is if the Jets end up in the 2-4 range. That is where I think moving down makes the most sense. I would be happy to see them move down from #2, take Rudolph in the 10-12 range, and sign Cousins for a big $ 3-year deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mphtrilogy Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 I dont see the pats letting JG go at all if he can play worth a lick... Brady is one big hit away from saying is it worth it anymore.. he has too much at stake to prove much more... he might only have 3 years max.. or less... thats why I think the pats reloaded this year for a final last hurrah push with brady Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 20 minutes ago, Lupz27 said: The Patriots will NEVER let Jimmy G walk for nothing, they will do the same thing they did with Cassell, Franchise him, and sell him to the highest bidder, and I have my own speculation that McDaniels will take a HC job with Bill's blessing, and have a hand shake agreement on some compensation for a franchised Jimmy G in place. the franchise tag for a QB is more than they pay Brady. It would be an easy bluff to call. If this team somehow gets Jimmy G in free agency I'll buy a custom GABAGOOL that very day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pcola Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 10 minutes ago, LionelRichie said: Let's see what kind of year Darnold has before anointing him #1 overall. We already have 1 QB on the team who looked like a can't miss prospect as a freshman. If Darnold does have another epic year then I think you have take him #1. Where it gets interesting is if the Jets end up in the 2-4 range. That is where I think moving down makes the most sense. I would be happy to see them move down from #2, take Rudolph in the 10-12 range, and sign Cousins for a big $ 3-year deal. There is a huge difference between what Hack did his freshman year compared to what Darnold did. What Hack did showed that he could develop into a top prospect. He didn't. What Darnold did last year alone would have made him the top pick in the last draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 30 minutes ago, CanadaSteve said: THAT would be interesting.... Here is a wonky trade proposal I saw online. People would CRUCIFY Mac for doing this: https://nflmocks.com/2017/08/31/2018-nfl-mock-draft-jets-strike-gold-in-blockbuster-trade/?utm_campaign=FanSided+Daily&utm_source=FanSided+Daily&utm_medium=email Everybody is ready to assume the New York Jets, the runaway favorites for the #1 pick, in this 2018 NFL mock draft and others, will take the top QB. Sure it makes sense in the overall view. Quarterback is their weakest position and its dogged them for decades. At the same time it’s important to remember this isn’t a team having a down year. The Jets are bad and likely will be a long way from contention even if they take the top QB on the board. So why not auction the pick off to the highest bidder? It’s been done before. Based on this scenario that’s exactly what they do, and get a large return for it. 1. Jacksonville Jaguars (via NYJ) Jaguars get #1 pick and take Sam Darnold Jets get #4 pick, 2nd in 2018, 1st in 2019, 2nd in 2019, and 1st in 2020 4. New York Jets (via Jax) Connor Williams OT Texas lol this would be so amazing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointman Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 Garrapolo wreaks of another Matty Flynn type. He isn't the prophet we need. Sign our own QB in the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 39 minutes ago, CanadaSteve said: THAT would be interesting.... Here is a wonky trade proposal I saw online. People would CRUCIFY Mac for doing this: https://nflmocks.com/2017/08/31/2018-nfl-mock-draft-jets-strike-gold-in-blockbuster-trade/?utm_campaign=FanSided+Daily&utm_source=FanSided+Daily&utm_medium=email Everybody is ready to assume the New York Jets, the runaway favorites for the #1 pick, in this 2018 NFL mock draft and others, will take the top QB. Sure it makes sense in the overall view. Quarterback is their weakest position and its dogged them for decades. At the same time it’s important to remember this isn’t a team having a down year. The Jets are bad and likely will be a long way from contention even if they take the top QB on the board. So why not auction the pick off to the highest bidder? It’s been done before. Based on this scenario that’s exactly what they do, and get a large return for it. 1. Jacksonville Jaguars (via NYJ) Jaguars get #1 pick and take Sam Darnold Jets get #4 pick, 2nd in 2018, 1st in 2019, 2nd in 2019, and 1st in 2020 4. New York Jets (via Jax) Connor Williams OT Texas Why would this surprise anyone? We got Hack after all. He just needs time, a fair chance, and some weapons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinstar Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 51 minutes ago, KRL said: I know most of the "tank" fanbase is focusing on the QB's in the draft but there is another scenario people should keep in mind. The front office could be focusing on going after Garrapolo in free agency. With him they would be getting a 25 year old who has been trained by Belichick, McDaniel & Brady for 4 years and doesn't have to "transition" to the pros. Once he's signed then the team could auction off their high pick and use those picks (11 or 12??) to surround Garrapolo with talent. Just speculating I'm not a fan of this idea . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinstar Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 I wonder what Jet fans are going to bitch about if the Jets end up with the 6th pick in 2018 and Sam Darnold is still on the board at pick 4 . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Schroy Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 1 hour ago, CanadaSteve said: THAT would be interesting.... Here is a wonky trade proposal I saw online. People would CRUCIFY Mac for doing this: https://nflmocks.com/2017/08/31/2018-nfl-mock-draft-jets-strike-gold-in-blockbuster-trade/?utm_campaign=FanSided+Daily&utm_source=FanSided+Daily&utm_medium=email Everybody is ready to assume the New York Jets, the runaway favorites for the #1 pick, in this 2018 NFL mock draft and others, will take the top QB. Sure it makes sense in the overall view. Quarterback is their weakest position and its dogged them for decades. At the same time it’s important to remember this isn’t a team having a down year. The Jets are bad and likely will be a long way from contention even if they take the top QB on the board. So why not auction the pick off to the highest bidder? It’s been done before. Based on this scenario that’s exactly what they do, and get a large return for it. 1. Jacksonville Jaguars (via NYJ) Jaguars get #1 pick and take Sam Darnold Jets get #4 pick, 2nd in 2018, 1st in 2019, 2nd in 2019, and 1st in 2020 4. New York Jets (via Jax) Connor Williams OT Texas God I hope not. But it would be very Jetsy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTownsell1 Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 1 hour ago, Pcola said: There is a huge difference between what Hack did his freshman year compared to what Darnold did. What Hack did showed that he could develop into a top prospect. He didn't. What Darnold did last year alone would have made him the top pick in the last draft. I agree with this. As a PSU fan, Hack looked like the kind of kid that would eventually develop into a Big Ben. Darnold already looks like a polished product ready to produce in the NFL. Of course a million things can happen to a kid between today and the draft. But I'd bet my house on Darnold. As for Garraoplo, there is zero chance he walks in free agency. And if he does, that is a sign of what Bellicheat thinks of him. We are drafting our franchise QB in next years draft. Trading for the Seattle 2 is just adding more pieces for Macc to use to trade up in case this team surprises and wins 5 or 6 games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 2 hours ago, CanadaSteve said: THAT would be interesting.... Here is a wonky trade proposal I saw online. People would CRUCIFY Mac for doing this: https://nflmocks.com/2017/08/31/2018-nfl-mock-draft-jets-strike-gold-in-blockbuster-trade/?utm_campaign=FanSided+Daily&utm_source=FanSided+Daily&utm_medium=email Everybody is ready to assume the New York Jets, the runaway favorites for the #1 pick, in this 2018 NFL mock draft and others, will take the top QB. Sure it makes sense in the overall view. Quarterback is their weakest position and its dogged them for decades. At the same time it’s important to remember this isn’t a team having a down year. The Jets are bad and likely will be a long way from contention even if they take the top QB on the board. So why not auction the pick off to the highest bidder? It’s been done before. Based on this scenario that’s exactly what they do, and get a large return for it. 1. Jacksonville Jaguars (via NYJ) Jaguars get #1 pick and take Sam Darnold Jets get #4 pick, 2nd in 2018, 1st in 2019, 2nd in 2019, and 1st in 2020 4. New York Jets (via Jax) Connor Williams OT Texas I would actually KILL Mike MacCagnan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obrien2Toon Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 2 hours ago, CanadaSteve said: THAT would be interesting.... Here is a wonky trade proposal I saw online. People would CRUCIFY Mac for doing this: https://nflmocks.com/2017/08/31/2018-nfl-mock-draft-jets-strike-gold-in-blockbuster-trade/?utm_campaign=FanSided+Daily&utm_source=FanSided+Daily&utm_medium=email Everybody is ready to assume the New York Jets, the runaway favorites for the #1 pick, in this 2018 NFL mock draft and others, will take the top QB. Sure it makes sense in the overall view. Quarterback is their weakest position and its dogged them for decades. At the same time it’s important to remember this isn’t a team having a down year. The Jets are bad and likely will be a long way from contention even if they take the top QB on the board. So why not auction the pick off to the highest bidder? It’s been done before. Based on this scenario that’s exactly what they do, and get a large return for it. 1. Jacksonville Jaguars (via NYJ) Jaguars get #1 pick and take Sam Darnold Jets get #4 pick, 2nd in 2018, 1st in 2019, 2nd in 2019, and 1st in 2020 4. New York Jets (via Jax) Connor Williams OT Texas That would be the last straw for me. Garrapolo isn't a terrible idea, but I'd still rather Darnold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adb280z Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 4 hours ago, joewilly12 said: Agree the other QB many are overlooking as well is Jacoby Brissett the kid seems to have what it takes to be successful in the NFL. KRL your scenario is a good one. Brissett just got traded to the Colts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScarletKnight89 Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 It's another possibility. Assuming the Jets are awful this year and have a topic pick they are going to be in a good position to either sign a QB or draft one. They hire McDaniels as HC as well and have him bring Garrapolo with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony MaC Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 4 hours ago, CanadaSteve said: THAT would be interesting.... Here is a wonky trade proposal I saw online. People would CRUCIFY Mac for doing this: https://nflmocks.com/2017/08/31/2018-nfl-mock-draft-jets-strike-gold-in-blockbuster-trade/?utm_campaign=FanSided+Daily&utm_source=FanSided+Daily&utm_medium=email Everybody is ready to assume the New York Jets, the runaway favorites for the #1 pick, in this 2018 NFL mock draft and others, will take the top QB. Sure it makes sense in the overall view. Quarterback is their weakest position and its dogged them for decades. At the same time it’s important to remember this isn’t a team having a down year. The Jets are bad and likely will be a long way from contention even if they take the top QB on the board. So why not auction the pick off to the highest bidder? It’s been done before. Based on this scenario that’s exactly what they do, and get a large return for it. 1. Jacksonville Jaguars (via NYJ) Jaguars get #1 pick and take Sam Darnold Jets get #4 pick, 2nd in 2018, 1st in 2019, 2nd in 2019, and 1st in 2020 4. New York Jets (via Jax) Connor Williams OT Texas There's no way Jax would give up that much, but that's a no brainer for mac if the scenario came up. 2 extra first rounders over the next two years? Another top 5 pick as well? I'd do that in a heart beat. You'd be stupid not to take that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Bowl before I die Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 4 hours ago, CanadaSteve said: THAT would be interesting.... Here is a wonky trade proposal I saw online. People would CRUCIFY Mac for doing this: https://nflmocks.com/2017/08/31/2018-nfl-mock-draft-jets-strike-gold-in-blockbuster-trade/?utm_campaign=FanSided+Daily&utm_source=FanSided+Daily&utm_medium=email Everybody is ready to assume the New York Jets, the runaway favorites for the #1 pick, in this 2018 NFL mock draft and others, will take the top QB. Sure it makes sense in the overall view. Quarterback is their weakest position and its dogged them for decades. At the same time it’s important to remember this isn’t a team having a down year. The Jets are bad and likely will be a long way from contention even if they take the top QB on the board. So why not auction the pick off to the highest bidder? It’s been done before. Based on this scenario that’s exactly what they do, and get a large return for it. 1. Jacksonville Jaguars (via NYJ) Jaguars get #1 pick and take Sam Darnold Jets get #4 pick, 2nd in 2018, 1st in 2019, 2nd in 2019, and 1st in 2020 4. New York Jets (via Jax) Connor Williams OT Texas Great ; another five year plan . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JETSxWRATH™ Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 When will Jets fans realize "signing Brady's backup" is not a winning strategy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony MaC Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 4 hours ago, Lupz27 said: Epic fail. 3 hours ago, Ken Shroy said: God I hope not. But it would be very Jetsy. 1 hour ago, Obrien2Toon said: That would be the last straw for me. Garrapolo isn't a terrible idea, but I'd still rather Darnold 2 hours ago, Paradis said: I would actually KILL Mike MacCagnan What's the matter with you guys? Okay, that scenario is BEYOND unrealistic, but you mean to tell me you wouldn't take a haul like that just for one QB prospect? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadFan Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 Hoe did Bledsoe work out in Buffalo? Didnt the Chiefs try this with Cassel? People were all infatuated with Ryan Mallett for a while too... I dont understand this obsession with Garropolo... Leave the Cheats' backup QBs alone. Draft a blue-chip QB prospect in 2018. Period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 What's the matter with you guys? Okay, that scenario is BEYOND unrealistic, but you mean to tell me you wouldn't take a haul like that just for one QB prospect? Cleveland has had 47,000 pics in the last five drafts, and how's that worked out for them? Screw volume. Take the best quarterback and then head to church and praySent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadFan Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 2 minutes ago, JETSxWRATH™ said: When will Jets fans realize "signing Brady's backup" is not a winning strategy? Agreed 100%. It is a tried and failed strategy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony MaC Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 Just now, Paradis said: Cleveland has had 47,000 pics in the last five drafts, and how's that worked out for them? Screw volume. Take the best quarterback and then head to church and pray Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk one top 5 prospect is good. A top five prospect and an extra first round pick for two years is outstanding. Just how good do people think Darnold is anyway? he cant be worth turning down that kind of value, can he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadFan Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 7 minutes ago, Paradis said: Cleveland has had 47,000 pics in the last five drafts, and how's that worked out for them? Screw volume. Take the best quarterback and then head to church and pray Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk FTR, I agree to take best QB and hope it is the right one. Cleveland's plan is working. Watch how much their defense has improved over the course of the season. Oh yeah... and just make sure you don't go to Joel Osteen's church, you might not get in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 Cleveland's plan is working. Watch how much there defense has improved over the course of the season. Oh yeah... and just make sure you don't go to Joel Osteen's church, you might not get in. This regime is been around for two drafts. There still the other 14 regimes in the last few years who've traded out of Julio Jones Sammy Watkins, and every other good player in the history of NFL.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 1 minute ago, Tony MaC said: one top 5 prospect is good. A top five prospect and an extra first round pick for two years is outstanding. Just how good do people think Darnold is anyway? he cant be worth turning down that kind of value, can he? I guess one measure would be to treat Darnold as if he's the next Roethlisberger, since that's who he's being compared to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 one top 5 prospect is good. A top five prospect and an extra first round pick for two years is outstanding. Just how good do people think Darnold is anyway? he cant be worth turning down that kind of value, can he? Nope. Best quarterback in the draft or go homeSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony MaC Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 I'm not gonna be surprised if the Jets get a free agent instead of drafting a QB. They have the money for it. My guess would be Cousins more than Jimmy G. though. Good age, success in a WCO not a fan of his current teams FO, it would make sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadFan Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 2 minutes ago, Paradis said: This regime is been around for two drafts. There still the other 14 regimes in the last few years who've traded out of Julio Jones Sammy Watkins, and every other good player in the history of NFL. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I mean the plan of THIS regime. The previous were clearly failures. They will be playing .500 ball next year, and could be a playoff team in 2019. The Jets are a full year behind, at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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