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1 minute ago, Jetsfan80 said:

And yes, Nolder, I agree with your POV. He was a d*ck to you for no reason.

 

Essentially he was already unreasonably pissed off at Ape, JiF and myself and just threw you into that pot as well.

Honestly I just want to move on and finish the game at this point.

I want to find out who was fooling me and how much of an idiot I have been. 

I don't think I've been right about one thing so far this game lol.

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33 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said:

Poor Nolder is gonna need therapy after what Smash did to him this game.

 

29 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said:

And yes, Nolder, I agree with your POV. He was a d*ck to you for no reason.

 

Essentially he was already unreasonably pissed off at Ape, JiF and myself and just threw you into that pot as well.

 

26 minutes ago, Nolder said:

Honestly I just want to move on and finish the game at this point.

I want to find out who was fooling me and how much of an idiot I have been. 

I don't think I've been right about one thing so far this game lol.

FWIW I did not start the issue with Nolder I simply voted him. I appreciate that Nolder was trying to help BUT a little word of advice Nolder when your trying to help you don't call the person you are trying to help a ******* Idiot in the same post because that turned the mood of the post exactly in the opposite direction funny you left that part out of your explanation why did you leave that out ? Of course not to paint yourself in a bad light. 

80 of course you agree with his point of view you obviously think I'm in the wrong for constantly having to defend my play and my retaliation so I didn't expect anything less from you. Also 80 if this was the exact opposite and Nolder and my posts were reversed you would have sided with Nolder and said I started the argument. One fact remains here I voted Nolder and he called me Useless which is a much different word with a much different meaning. Much different than being called an Idiot or a moron it has more of a real meaning and not in fun IMHO. I mean How dare I not post for 1/2 a phase then call Nolder Scum. 

besides all of the name calling I had to deal with people basically ignore the most basic rules of Mafia you do not keep grilling and bitching out un countered power roles its poor play and of course some kept digging and digging and digging. Now If I were countered that would have been an entirely different story but I was not countered and was getting close to being the majority lynch, So yeah Ignoring basic mafia knowledge infuriates me and it only added to the drama take a guess who kept calling me scum through all of that ? Just take a wild Guess. Probably mad cause i retaliated to being called basically a useless Idiot and a Moron and Stupid all while being the un countered Doc.

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1 hour ago, Nolder said:

Lest anyone aside from Smash (dgaf what he thinks) thinks I am being a dick or I somehow turned on him let's go over exactly what happened.

 

D2 starts halfway down Page 34, 80 votes me after having been on my case for awhile and then Smash votes me without any stated reason. I respond to that vote by saying the following.

No it wasn't nice but my point still stands that it's ******* bullsh*t Smash can just check out for days at a time and then drop a vote with no explanation and expect it to fly without comment. Maybe everyone else was just tired of his sh*t by then but I am going to point it out because it's bullsh*t. Even if he's town it's ******* worthless gameplay from him. Ok moving on.

 

We trade some jabs but I'm pulled off to arguing with Dice while Smash is mainly arguing with Jif/80/Ape. Now I'm not going to pretend I was nice. I wasn't. But Neither was Smash so who ******* cares? With posts like the following it's no wonder people blow up at him.

Now don't get me wrong. Unlike Smash I am almost never bothered by being called names or insulted (I have my moments but they are rare). I literally come to JN because I can call Smash an idiot and he can call me ****face or Nolderp or Pokenerd or whateverthe**** and we're not going to get banned for it because USUALLY it's in good fun or at least just heat of the moment type of sh*t talking. Point is Smash is trying to make the case that I can dish it out but I can't take it but what I am saying is that I can take it just fine that's not what made me mad initially nor is it why I'm ******* done with Smash right now. Ok moving on again.

 

Pretty much out of nowhere on Page 36 Smash votes himself. Pac replies and appears to genuinely be trying to console Smash saying why let Ape et al have power over you? Smash denies they have power over him but continues with the emo sh*t. I come in and try to indulge his point of view. NOTE: AT THIS POINT I'VE LET MY ANGER OVER SMASHES DUMB VOTE GO. My only purpose at this point was to get Smash to feel better and continue playing. Here is what I first said to him.

 

Jif and 80 and Ape continue to harang Smash at the time. Smash doesn't even respond to the post I made above so I said "Well Smash doesn't even want to talk to me I guess." And if that were true I figured we might as well figure out what to do and just move on with the game so I follow up with a post asking Smash if he's sure this (meaning getting himself lynched) is what he really wanted to do. I tried to convince him to drop it and just help me lynch AJ.

 

While waiting for there to be a lynch or for Smash to respond a few posts are made and one of them 80 calls Smash a blockhead baby or something and my response?

Why did I say that? I was clearly trying to get in the middle. I said it because I didn't want to agree with 80 and make Smash feel worse. I'm over here taking his ******* feelings into consideration in a game where I shouldn't have to be ******* doing that in the first place.

 

Another example of me wanting to work things out with Smash

 

FINALLY Smash shows up again. He claims to be the Doc and then makes this huge emo rant post. He's since deleted it but you can see my response to it and most if not all of it quoted in my response  near the top of page 38. READ MY POST. Let me post a few choice quotes from that post lest you think I was being a dick to Smash.

 

 

I mean I'm not exactly sucking his dick in the post (I think I called him an idiot at one point) but I don't know what this is if it's not supposed to be encouraging. I'm treating him with ******* kid gloves trying to get him to come back and finish playing instead of taking his ball and going home.

 

After I make this big long post literally putting my gameplay on pause and trying to help this dude against even what I consider the spirit of the game and what does he say to me?

Oh...ok...cool thanks. I mean that's it? Not yeah thanks for trying Nolder but I'm just not feeling it or yeah but blahblahblah. Nah he just continues the emo and deletes his rant. And what's my reply? I think at this point I could have gotten frustrated or mad with him but what did I do? I was ******* nice as **** again.

And Smash responds by saying "not worth it Nolder". Well **** me right? I'm over here doing everything I can to make this dude feel better and he's just like nah leave me alone. At that point most people WOULD just leave him alone. But hey I've had my emo rants I've been there and the times that certain people reached out I really appreciated it so I went on trying to be nice and helpful.

I straight up just say hey ok if you don't want to talk that's fine but literally I'll just let you quit the game if that's what you really want or if you want you can get a free pass for this emo sh*t. HONESTLY? This right here is way against the spirit of the game and I wouldn't blame anyone if they gave me sh*t for it later. It's ****ed up because I'm over here willing to let Smash go and it had not a god damn thing to do with the game. And how does he respond? He goes straight into game mode.

 

He also piles on more emo regarding something 80 said or whatever. Go back and check the quotes. 

So instead of getting frustrated I'm like ok maybe he's feeling like he's taking crazy pills about Ape's PR even though I didn't want to let on that I knew it was fake yet I'll tell Smash I already knew so maybe he'll calm the **** down.

Not only that but I threw a random jab at Pac just to make Smash feel better. Like he's not isolated and being picked on by everyone.

So Smash replies by saying something like well if you knew Ape was faking why didn't you try to lynch him. And I respond by saying that I don't necessarily know that it's scummy but I can basically revisit it any time I want to. My main message was I'm watching and waiting on Ape. But that wasn't good enough for Smash. He responds saying.

Now. Look back in this post or better yet go read the actual posts in context. I called Smash an idiot many posts ago and it was in a half joking manner AND I'd spent several posts after that still trying to make him feel better. I never really commented on his Doc claim beyond saying I don't think Docs should lurk. So wtf is this? More emo? Like holy **** dude how much can I say or do for the guy? It was at this point I finally got frustrated. On page 39 I replied.

Now while I was making this post which he never responded to Smash was having gameplay talk with others so I'm thinking ok cool he's slowly being dragged back into the game he's going to play so I can stop trying to make him feel better because maybe that's just making him dwell on whatever pissed him off. So I make a gameplay post again FINALLY. 

 

Just so we're clear, this is the post I was quoting from Smash.

Now if you read this post Smash literally just said the Doc will self protect the first few phases of the game. I responded by saying ok you're implying you self protected both nights so why did scum try to kill you N2 if they knew they'd already been blocked N1? I think that's a pretty normal thing to ask. Obviously he wouldn't know the answer if he's really the doc no one can say what scum would do unless they are on the team but I figured it was worth asking just to see what he would say. And boy what a ******* response I got.

 

The dude ******* blows the **** up at me. Me. The one guy who's being ******* nice beyond ******* reason while everyone else continued to pick and snipe at him. And he's ******* confused now about why I'm done with him. I could have responded then and been a dick but I tried to just let him down easy. Because, you know, even though I was mad at how he just blew up at me I was still trying to protect the mother****ers feelings for some reason. Here is how I responded.

 

I think that is a pretty reasoned and measured response for how I was treated. That'll teach me to ******* be nice and try to help someone DURING a game. Mother****er is probably scum throwing an a fake emo fit. If that's the case well BRAVO SIR! You survived being lynched and got more townies killed. It's a low and disgusting play but hey do what you gotta do to win right? I'll tell you this I will not be making this mistake with you ever again. Your emo falls on deaf ears.

 

And if you're town well I hope you feel like sh*t for how you treated someone trying to help you. Yeah, I think you deserve to feel bad for that one.

 

Everyone else, judge how you will. I am done responding to Smash for the rest of the game. Regardless of his alignment I am disgusted with him.

 

14 minutes ago, Smashmouth said:

 

 

FWIW I did not start the issue with Nolder I simply voted him. I appreciate that Nolder was trying to help BUT a little word of advice Nolder when your trying to help you don't call the person you are trying to help a ******* Idiot in the same post because that turned the mood of the post exactly in the opposite direction funny you left that part out of your explanation why did you leave that out ? Of course not to paint yourself in a bad light. 

80 of course you agree with his point of view you obviously think I'm in the wrong for constantly having to defend my play and my retaliation so I didn't expect anything less from you. Also 80 if this was the exact opposite and Nolder and my posts were reversed you would have sided with Nolder and said I started the argument. One fact remains here I voted Nolder and he called me Useless which is a much different word with a much different meaning. Much different than being called an Idiot or a moron it has more of a real meaning and not in fun IMHO. I mean How dare I not post for 1/2 a phase then call Nolder Scum. 

besides all of the name calling I had to deal with people basically ignore the most basic rules of Mafia you do not keep grilling and bitching out un countered power roles its poor play and of course some kept digging and digging and digging. Now If I were countered that would have been an entirely different story but I was not countered and was getting close to being the majority lynch, So yeah Ignoring basic mafia knowledge infuriates me and it only added to the drama take a guess who kept calling me scum through all of that ? Just take a wild Guess. Probably mad cause i retaliated to being called basically a useless Idiot and a Moron and Stupid all while being the un countered Doc.

The both of you need to just **** and get it over with. 

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Nope. I made whatever case I thought I had and I spoke my feelings. I urged all onlookers to go read all the posts in context if they care.

 

Judge me however you will. Smash can say what he wants. I have nothing more to say about the matter.

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3 hours ago, Nolder said:

Ok out of those three VCs let's see what can be seen.

Well in the first one...it's hard to believe that Spoot was lynched without a single Scum on his train but I trust Pac and don't really feel that bad about Ape despite his fake PR. Maybe I should rethink that though...

Also don't really like where Dice is sitting tbh.

 

2nd VC Dice is now on me. I dunno that makes him scum but I don't really see a scummate voting LZM at that point so I feel good about JC and 80. Although they are notorious bussers even when it's not necessary so...****...I don't know. Meanwhile Pac Ape and Smash were dicking off doing jack sh*t.

 

3rd VC I feel like there's a lot of info here but I don't know what to make out of it. The two guys I have the worst feelings about right now were both voting me while the guys I feel good about all joined me and voted off AJ who turned out to be townie.

 

I see two options here. I can continue following what I feel and go after Dice and Smash or I can go against my instincts and try to single out one of Pac, Ape, 80, or JC.

 

Sure would be nice if @Dunnie or that guy who replaced Hallia would ******* help out a bit.

you don't like where im sitting on pac. he claimed scum. Did you REALLY expect me to be anywhere else?

and of COURSE you don't like that I was on you. I think your scum and if im right you don't want to be lynched.

and you STILL want to lynch the un ccd doc.  shakes head.  

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22 hours ago, Lizard King said:

Vote Count

 

Smash (4) - Jif, Ape, JC, Nolder

nolder (2) - 80, Smash

AJ (1) -  Pac 

 

with 11 alive it takes 6 to lynch

if we analyse any vcs I think its this one.

 

this was a vc AFTER smash claimed doc. Nolder confirmed putting him in hammer range even tho he was unccd doc. AJ had been on this but unvoted shortly before.

 

I think there has to be scum in here possibly all the remaining ones cause he didn't get hammered and the way jn plays I can see a hammer coming on the unccd doc despite    or maybe even because of    the fact that if he flips doc that hammer is gonna get instalynched most likely.

 

this is possibly the only town thing I think nolder may have done this game  and im seeing both sides.  either he is town and truly believes smash scum and thus taking a large risk  or he is scum and either hoping for a derp vote to hammer the doc or that no one would believe hed do that as scum.  or both I guess

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2 minutes ago, Dicetosser said:

if we analyse any vcs I think its this one.

 

this was a vc AFTER smash claimed doc. Nolder confirmed putting him in hammer range even tho he was unccd doc. AJ had been on this but unvoted shortly before.

 

I think there has to be scum in here possibly all the remaining ones cause he didn't get hammered and the way jn plays I can see a hammer coming on the unccd doc despite    or maybe even because of    the fact that if he flips doc that hammer is gonna get instalynched most likely.

 

this is possibly the only town thing I think nolder may have done this game  and im seeing both sides.  either he is town and truly believes smash scum and thus taking a large risk  or he is scum and either hoping for a derp vote to hammer the doc or that no one would believe hed do that as scum.  or both I guess

I just don't care what people claim. The way he did it wasn't good nor did it look good that he blew up at anyone trying to ask him questions about his actions.

I don't have any qualms about lynching Smash. Aren't you someone who policy votes self voters? He self voted. Or are you going to overlook that?

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3 hours ago, Smashmouth said:

Never acted like a dick until, you, out of nowhere called me an Idiot ...... So **** you if you can't take it in return just like the Ape and JIF little bitches who love to start sh*t then point at me when I give it back. Sorry you think it was staged but it was real because I deal with this same bullsh*t every single game the same three Idiots vote me every single game no matter what I do no matter what I claim even if it goes against the most simple rules of mafia. Go back and look see who started the name calling first  probably 90 percent of the time Im retaliating. If I vote JIF IM a blockhead if I vote Ape Im an Idiot If I vote JC he usually does not name call but it starts his campaign aganist me in perfect OMGUS fashion. I can't deflect 3 people constantly coming at me and yes it gets very frustrating the name calling added to that sets me off and makes me not want to play so this game I decided to just go totally off with the name calling as you can see with my back and forth with APE and YOU at that point it was not personal and it was obvious I was having fun with it after I cooled down but hey if you think other wise that's cool to. Sorry I thought you were scum also sorry when I first pointed at you you went off cause in your mind I was inactive when in fact I was reading the game and paying attention to what you were doing . Go Quote your post and what you said to me after I simply voted you or should I do it for you ?

At least you acknowledge I do not name call.  Really need to stop the emo especially the self votes.  If you flip scum again this game I will relentlessly pursue your lynch all day and every day in all games and every game.

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3 hours ago, Smashmouth said:

Stfu dumb ass I claimed doc and was un-countered I'm not mad at the game or most of the people playing but people like you who purposely try to work me up by being a ******* child are what ruin it.

I saw you pop in numerous times the last few days and what did you contribute ???? NOTHING ! not one post so go **** off. I deal with the same bullsh*t from you every single game but when I give it back I'm a little bitch ?

You are the problem. Not trolling. It's you. Derp.

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3 hours ago, Smashmouth said:

 

 

 

Here ya go Nolder so who exactly started being a dick to whom ??? That's the sequence and even after wards I was trying to be nice.

**** Right Off Smash

And GFY Smash

So yeah Nolder I started this sh*t. So after dealing with the other buffoon and getting constantly attacked by the same people you come in with this crap but yeah Its me man. 

It is you. Derp.

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3 hours ago, Smashmouth said:

whatever JIF its painfully obvious in just about every game that you and APE no matter alignment attempt to set me off. You know exactly what your doing and I guarantee every single time its you guys initiating the name calling and you do it in a way Its not meant to be fun 

Nobody tries to set you off headcase. You take every excuse possible to just go off. We treat every about the same. You just lose your sh*t constantly, thin skinned emo... then blame everyone else for your actions. Derp.

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Game just jumped the shark for me. Pac is scum. AJ is apparently just not very good. Dunnie and hall is not contributing disrupts balance. Smash is a emo nightmare.

Just don't care. Won't quit because you're already short-handed, but I'm done lisyebung to smash cry about name calling while he goes off like Vesuvius on every one.

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I can't decide what I want to do.

Pac says Ape is scum and Ape says Pac is scum.

I feel good about both of them.

Dice and Smash both seem scummy to me but I've been wrong all game so I feel like it's time to pull away from what I think I know.

JC and 80 feel like they've been in good places on VCs so I don't think they're scum but that's pretty light reasoning.

SK and Dunnie are no shows and could be wild cards on any reads anyone has.

Hopefully I'm the first NK.

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I was wrong on AJ, of course, and now am not certain at all about my theory that at least one of Nolder/AJ had to be scum based on the maneuvering to lynch SMC. Nolder is just coming off very townie at this point.

 

If I'm to abandon that theory for now, and since I also refuse to lynch the uncountered cop, at this time, and also think Ape is town, then PoE results in this being my favored order of scum:

 

1. Pac

2. Dice

3. JC

4. SK

5. Dunnie

 

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1 hour ago, Jetsfan80 said:

I was wrong on AJ, of course, and now am not certain at all about my theory that at least one of Nolder/AJ had to be scum based on the maneuvering to lynch SMC. Nolder is just coming off very townie at this point.

 

If I'm to abandon that theory for now, and since I also refuse to lynch the uncountered cop, at this time, and also think Ape is town, then PoE results in this being my favored order of scum:

 

1. Pac

2. Dice

3. JC

4. SK

5. Dunnie

 

so this is basically a version of your continuum thing?

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There's no way I'd be this quiet as scum...  I'd be running victory laps over all this absolutely ridiculous emo.

I'm just VT and I warned before the game that I might lose some interest in a basic setup.  Couple busy days at work and busy weekend but I've never hid in mafia.  In fact if I was scum I would have felt an obligation to post a lot because I don't win cheaply.

Anywho...  I think JC might be a good vote at this point.

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8 minutes ago, Pac said:

There's no way I'd be this quiet as scum...  I'd be running victory laps over all this absolutely ridiculous emo.

I'm just VT and I warned before the game that I might lose some interest in a basic setup.  Couple busy days at work and busy weekend but I've never hid in mafia.  In fact if I was scum I would have felt an obligation to post a lot because I don't win cheaply.

Anywho...  I think JC might be a good vote at this point.

But it isn't a basic game. This feels more like a bastard game. the night kills are all screwy. and gif flipped watcher. Sooooo. wtf are you talking about?

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