T0mShane Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 Rex Ryan on whether he'll watch his two exes, Jets and Bills: 'Hell, no' Rex Ryan said he's not going to watch the Jets play the Bills on Sunday because: "There's a lot better games than that one." Kirby Lee/USA TODAY Sports Facebook Twitter Facebook Messenger Email comment 2:39 PM ET Rich CiminiESPN Staff Writer FLORHAM PARK, N.J. -- The biggest personality in the recent New York Jets-Buffalo Bills rivalry won't be anywhere near Ralph Wilson Stadium on Sunday -- and he won't be glued to his TV screen, either. "Hell, no, I'm not going to watch that game," Rex Ryan said by phone, letting out a belly laugh. "There's a lot better games than that one." Let's call it (R)ex Bowl I. Fired twice in a span of two years, the ex-Jets and ex-Bills coach is out of football, working as an ESPN analyst, but he hasn't lost his razor-sharp opinions. And he has plenty to share when it comes to these two teams. Ryan questioned the Bills' recent flurry of trades and said he's bemused as to why expectations for the season are lower than those he faced. As for the Jets, they have a "bare bones" roster that doesn't include their future quarterback, according Ryan, who isn't a Christian Hackenberg fan. "They have to get a quarterback," he said. "That kid from Penn State, we all know that's not the answer." Ryan said he harbors no ill will toward the Jets, who gave him his first shot as a head coach (2009-2014). Interestingly, his 2017 forecast is more optimistic than most. The Vegas over-under is four wins, to which Ryan responded: "Oh, hell, I'll take the over on that. Let's face it, I had a roster that people were trying to lose with and we won four games [in 2014]" -- a subtle dig at former general manager John Idzik. "There's no way this roster is that bad. Remember, we had no corners, we had nothing. You're able to stumble into four wins. I think this team will be better than that." Their plan, he said, is "not a total tank," but he doesn't see them winning more than six games. The current regime inherited Ryan's 4-12 team, but instead of rebuilding from the outset, it acquired several older veterans -- "rentals," as Ryan called them. "They went for broke, but the fallout was going to be obvious. This team wasn't built for the long haul, it was built for a one shot, and that was it." Ryan said it was "no surprise whatsoever" when the Jets started dumping veterans and big contracts in the offseason. They're one of the youngest teams, but they have a 38-year-old quarterback in Josh McCown. "He's going try to work with these young quarterbacks because that's what he does -- he's a really good guy -- but everybody knows he's not the answer," Ryan said. The Jets' perpetual search for a franchise quarterback probably will prompt them to pick one in the 2018 draft, which could be top heavy with elite arms. If they make the right choice, the Jets can change their fortunes immediately, according to Ryan. "It's like Andrew Luck: You get a quarterback, a difference-maker like that, you can flip your franchise overnight," he said. "To me, the thing can be flipped in one year, bringing in the right personnel. You can get the Jets back. That's what I truly believe." Ryan said he never would've traded Sheldon Richardson. "For whatever reason, this group did not take to Sheldon Richardson," he said. "I love him, the guy's a great football player. To me, I would've done everything to keep him, but it's a different regime and all that stuff. "They decided to pay [Muhammad Wilkerson] instead of Sheldon a couple of years ago. They're probably happy they got a second-round pick for him. In that sense, I can see it, but you don't have the services of one of the better D-lineman in the league." "It seems like anybody Doug Whaley drafted, or did whatever, they're running out of the building, from EJ Manuel to Sammy Watkins, Reggie Ragland, [Ronald[ Darby, all those guys," Ryan said. "To me that's a mistake. At the end of the day, you better win some games. "Rebuilding is one thing, but the expectations ... I don't understand why the expectations would be set any different than when I was there. The difference is, you actually have draft picks. I never had those. To me, it's like, go ahead. All this talk about how talented they were when I was there, I want to see it on the field. We'll see." Ryan said Watkins is "a top-10 receiver" when healthy. The Ragland trade is "really the one that blows me away. Reggie Ragland was one of our best players, if not the best player, in training camp last year. That [knee] injury was must have been significant for his play to drop off." He said he understood the Darby trade because the cornerback lacks ball skills: "That's one thing Ronald Darby doesn't have." So who wins R(ex) Bowl I? Ryan laughed. He's picking the Bills "by default" because he doesn't know how the Jets can score points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gen X Jet Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 And all that stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 He still feels he did nothing wrong and the teams given to him had poor talent, hat a deluded schmuck. He turned a good jets team into a sack of shi* and took no time at all to turn a promising buffalo team into a full rebuild. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long Island Leprechaun Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 We got Jeremy Kerley and stuff. How can we not score points? Rex, c'mon, man! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sourceworx Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 Rex values QBs more than our current regime does. Go figure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 I <3 Rex Ryan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogglez Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 This is gonna be a fun thread. He ain't wrong though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogglez Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 Wait, wasn't Darby Rex's hand picked guy in his first year...the guy who he says doesn't have ball skills? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southparkcpa Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 32 minutes ago, Beerfish said: He still feels he did nothing wrong and the teams given to him had poor talent, hat a deluded schmuck. He turned a good jets team into a sack of shi* and took no time at all to turn a promising buffalo team into a full rebuild. He ruined or helped ruin 2 franchises. THey were stupid enough to buy in. WE at least had no knowledge of his stupidity. BUffalo is simply mas estupido que nos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 Everything is Rex-centric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 Is this really going in tho? Kinda soft tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 43 minutes ago, JiF said: I <3 Rex Ryan. Basically we Rex and Jamies Winston away from multiple Lomabardi's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 48 minutes ago, The Crusher said: Basically we Rex and Jamies Winston away from multiple Lomabardi's. You sound skeptical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 What no one seems to get yet is that Idzik had the right idea the entire time. Not too different than what DePodesta is doing in Cleveland. Nothing matters till you find the QB and the more draft picks the better the odds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted September 5, 2017 Author Share Posted September 5, 2017 56 minutes ago, RutgersJetFan said: Is this really going in tho? Kinda soft tbh. I was laying the trap for those that illogically love Rex and illogically defend the Hack pick. I wanted to see them perish, mentally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyLV Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 52 minutes ago, sourceworx said: Rex values QBs more than our current regime does. Go figure. As bad as Rex was and he was AWFUL, he did actually understand that playing a veteran was a waste of time. No hyeprbole here, I actually think Bowles is the worst QB of the Jets I can remember. I remember the Kotite days and I am not sure Bowles is better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers9 Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 So glad he is no longer here. Yeah, he did a great job with the 2014 Jets (according to him). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 2 hours ago, sourceworx said: Rex values QBs more than our current regime does. Go figure. He says that now. Talk is always cheap, usually involving how great your defense is against the run, like it freaking matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmat321 Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 he will be back, just inevitable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EM31 Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 Who is doing the clock management on his 15 minutes of fame? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoot-Face Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 16 minutes ago, EM31 said: Who is doing the clock management on his 15 minutes of fame? Hopefully not Bowles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kleckineau Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 Seems like only yesterday when someone said "play like a Jet" it meant something.☺ Not quite sure what it meant but it meant something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detectivekimble Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 2 hours ago, southparkcpa said: He ruined or helped ruin 2 franchises. THey were stupid enough to buy in. WE at least had no knowledge of his stupidity. BUffalo is simply mas estupido que nos. Absolutely. The Jets and Bills were winning franchises before Rex came along. Wait, a second . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detectivekimble Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 1 hour ago, Matt39 said: What no one seems to get yet is that Idzik had the right idea the entire time. Not too different than what DePodesta is doing in Cleveland. Nothing matters till you find the QB and the more draft picks the better the odds. I don't like Idzik, but I don't see how you can have sustained success without a QB. Without a QB, you literally have to hit on a ton of draft picks and free agents so that you can keep fielding a team that's good at every other position. You may be able to do it for a year or three, but over a longer period of time? No way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detectivekimble Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 1 hour ago, Bugg said: He says that now. Talk is always cheap, usually involving how great your defense is against the run, like it freaking matters. The first thing he did was go after Mark Sanchez. Right idea, wrong player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 It would be real nice if we had our first non-first-time-NFL-HC-since-Parcells. That's seriously an absurd statistic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionelRichie Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 Tough to argue with anything Rex said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers9 Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 Can't stand the guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 Rex's biggest problem here was that he was so busy celebrating the fact that his defense was kicking the crap out of his offense to notice that maybe that wasn't a good thing... But nothing he said in the article isn't true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers9 Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 You have to give Buffalo credit. They got rid of him fast. And the press unlike here saw through him early. And didn't advance his spin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 3 hours ago, T0mShane said: I was laying the trap for those that illogically love Rex and illogically defend the Hack pick. I wanted to see them perish, mentally. JN's best and brightest reconciling "Rex is good" with "Maccagnan is good": Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetmech Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 What no one seems to get yet is that Idzik had the right idea the entire time. Not too different than what DePodesta is doing in Cleveland. Nothing matters till you find the QB and the more draft picks the better the odds. Yet, he didn't draft a QB after Geno and there were 12 guys that kinda sucked. Ya know..Sent from my XT1650 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 6 hours ago, Gen X Jet said: And all that stuff Rex has really changed. It used to be "and all that kind of stuff". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack48 Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 14 hours ago, Beerfish said: He still feels he did nothing wrong and the teams given to him had poor talent, hat a deluded schmuck. He turned a good jets team into a sack of shi* and took no time at all to turn a promising buffalo team into a full rebuild. He is an established failure as a head coach. That should not even qualfy him for commentary on the tube. But he will be hired, if he has not been already. It also proves that any sense of loyalty he claimed to possess ended when the paychecks stopped. No biggie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rex-n-effect Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 Nothing said there that isn't harsher than anything said here in a given ten minute time period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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