Philc1 Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 His drafts suck. $20 million in dead cap room. He cannot evaluate the qb position at all. How on Earth can some jets fans still want this guy picking our qb next Spring? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 We're rebuilding so the first two drafts don't count Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W. Namath Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 Mac is the worst gm in football. That is not debateable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted September 10, 2017 Author Share Posted September 10, 2017 1 minute ago, dbatesman said: We're rebuilding so the first two drafts don't count lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted September 10, 2017 Author Share Posted September 10, 2017 1 minute ago, Joe W. Namath said: Mac is the worst gm in football. That is not debateable. He had a lot of defenders here. Oh so quiet now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycdan Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 Well Adams did make a nice tackle today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 I liked him but he is done. You can't give him that draft pick and all that money. Either that or hire Dorsey as his boss. Look at his draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j4jets Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 Relax, Phil. This is exactly where we wanted to be. Give the Bills a W week 1 and another W in week 9, essentially giving them the D. Could not have asked for a better result. Oh yeah, if Mo showed up.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted September 10, 2017 Author Share Posted September 10, 2017 1 minute ago, varjet said: I liked him but he is done. You can't give him that draft pick and all that money. Either that or hire Dorsey as his boss. Look at his draft. Dorsey would be first choice too considering Jim Harbaugh is a pipe dream. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pac Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 these threads are going to be painful this year.. fans have been whining and crying for a rebuild for 20 years and when they get one they're shocked the team doesn't look great. and already concluding that this years draft class (or last years for that matter) is a bust is impossibly stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 Just now, Pac said: these threads are going to be painful this year.. fans have been whining and crying for a rebuild for 20 years and when they get one they're shocked the team doesn't look great. and already concluding that this years draft class (or last years for that matter) is a bust is impossibly stupid. What about the year before that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted September 10, 2017 Author Share Posted September 10, 2017 Just now, j4jets said: Relax, Phil. This is exactly where we wanted to be. Give the Bills a W week 1 and another W in week 9, essentially giving them the D. Could not have asked for a better result. Oh yeah, if Mo showed up.. Watch the Patriots go 8-8 this year because Brady has Madden curse. The year the Patriots finally suck we choose to not even be competitive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted September 10, 2017 Author Share Posted September 10, 2017 1 minute ago, Pac said: these threads are going to be painful this year.. fans have been whining and crying for a rebuild for 20 years and when they get one they're shocked the team doesn't look great. and already concluding that this years draft class (or last years for that matter) is a bust is impossibly stupid. We've been rebuilding for 4 decades. What has Mac done to make you think he has any idea how to draft? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pac Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 Just now, dbatesman said: What about the year before that after the first game in their 3rd year? Stupid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted September 10, 2017 Author Share Posted September 10, 2017 1 minute ago, dbatesman said: What about the year before that Mac gets a mulligan for his first two years because we were still getting over Vinny's torn achilles from 1999 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted September 10, 2017 Author Share Posted September 10, 2017 Just now, Pac said: after the first game in their 3rd year? Stupid What makes you think Mac knows how to acquire young talent? What quarterback acquisition stands out to you during his tenure? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetspenguin Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 2 minutes ago, dbatesman said: What about the year before that ok lets assume you are right and we ONLY base it on the one year ....now how idiotic is it to fire a GM off of the results of ONE draft? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 4 hours ago, Pac said: these threads are going to be painful this year.. fans have been whining and crying for a rebuild for 20 years and when they get one they're shocked the team doesn't look great. and already concluding that this years draft class (or last years for that matter) is a bust is impossibly stupid. Not being able to discern between rebuilding poorly and just rebuilding is about the only thing that's impossibly stupid here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pac Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 Just now, Philc1 said: What makes you think Mac knows how to acquire young talent? What quarterback acquisition stands out to you during his tenure? What QB's have been available for christs sakes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j4jets Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 3 minutes ago, Philc1 said: Watch the Patriots go 8-8 this year because Brady has Madden curse. The year the Patriots finally suck we choose to not even be competitive No buddy, we are trying our best to be competitive. Can't blame Mac for trying. It's giving the illusion of tanking but this is his level best, trust me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetspenguin Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 1 minute ago, Pac said: What QB's have been available for christs sakes? I think we maybe wasting our breath here..........some people have already made up their minds. No matter how many valid points you make it wont change anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tfine Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 Let’s fire the GM and the coach every 3 years because that’s what good teams do Sent from my iPad using JetNation.com mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYs Stepchild Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 Firing Bowles and making Morton the interim HC is really MAc's only chance at salvaging his career IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pac Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 1 minute ago, gEYno said: Not being able to discern between rebuilding poorly and just rebuilding is about the only thing that's impossibly stupide here. Actually what's impossibly stupid is thinking you, Dbuttman, and TomSham wouldn't whine when that's all you've done for the last 10 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted September 10, 2017 Author Share Posted September 10, 2017 2 minutes ago, Pac said: What QB's have been available for christs sakes? Deshone Kizer and Deshaun Watson for starters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pac Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 1 minute ago, jetspenguin said: I think we maybe wasting our breath here..........some people have already made up their minds. No matter how many valid points you make it wont change anything. I ignore most of the nonsense but sometimes it's so annoyingly stupid I can't help but answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetspenguin Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 1 minute ago, NYs Stepchild said: Firing Bowles and making Morton the interim HC is really MAc's only chance at salvaging his career IMO. uhhh....after seeing that playcalling today I personally would spring for the billboard. That would be the last straw for me...I think soon enough we will see that Johnny Mo isnt ready. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted September 10, 2017 Author Share Posted September 10, 2017 1 minute ago, tfine said: Let’s fire the GM and the coach every 3 years because that’s what good teams do Sent from my iPad using JetNation.com mobile app What an ignorant post Rex - 6 years Herm - 5 years Tanenbaum - 7 years Mangini - 3 years Bradway - 5 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pac Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 Just now, Philc1 said: Deshone Kizer and Deshaun Watson for starters they looked AWESOME today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted September 10, 2017 Author Share Posted September 10, 2017 3 minutes ago, Pac said: Actually what's impossibly stupid is thinking you, Dbuttman, and TomSham wouldn't whine when that's all you've done for the last 10 years. Yeah we shouldn't whine that we have a totally clueless regime making this team a mockery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetspenguin Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 Just now, Philc1 said: What an ignorant post Rex - 6 years Herm - 5 years Tanenbaum - 7 years Mangini - 3 years Bradway - 5 years your response actually ignores his point.......list the good teams that fire their coach and gm every 3 years and you've got something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted September 10, 2017 Author Share Posted September 10, 2017 1 minute ago, Pac said: they looked AWESOME today. Alot better than any scrub qb's on our roster did Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 The second my boy Chad called out Hackenberg's name I was pretty much done. There will be a clearout come season's end. There's no patience for a rebuild in the NFL. It sounds good in theory but when the product is put on the field the fans and owners wont tolerate the sh*t that's being served up. Mac and Bowles are both gone in 2018. Shame Woody wont join them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted September 10, 2017 Author Share Posted September 10, 2017 Just now, jetspenguin said: your response actually ignores his point.......list the good teams that fire their coach and gm every 3 years and you've got something Good teams don't hire people like Mike Macagnan and Todd Bowles to run their organization. With your amazing logic Kotite would have gotten at least another 3 years and we never hire Parcells. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted September 10, 2017 Author Share Posted September 10, 2017 Just now, Irish Jet said: The second my boy Chad called out Hackenberg's name I was pretty much done. There will be a clearout come season's end. There's no patience for a rebuild in the NFL. It sounds good in theory but when the product is put on the field the fans and owners wont tolerate the sh*t that's being served up. Mac and Bowles are both gone in 2018. Shame Woody wont join them. There's a difference between rebuilding and rebuilding poorly. We are doing the latter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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