TuscanyTile2 Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 Apparently his contract gives the Jets an out after this year. We can release him and save the $17 million. Right now I would think that's the likely scenario. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 1 minute ago, TuscanyTile2 said: Apparently his contract gives the Jets an out after this year. We can release him and save the $17 million. Right now I would think that's the likely scenario. Another big win for Macc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barkus Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 Yes either major pay cut or outright released, most definitely. Looks like jets will draft another d-lineman in the first round! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantasy Island Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 Yes, that would be a good move. Our defense is a joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetscode1 Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 Not worth $1M never minds $17M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Schroy Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 Ray Lucus was slamming him last week, and he defended him getting the money big time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W. Namath Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 Hes done here. He stinks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionelRichie Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 If you are serious about rebuilding you pay the $17M for '17 and trade him for a 4th to a contender in need of a DL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigO Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 26 minutes ago, TuscanyTile2 said: Apparently his contract gives the Jets an out after this year. We can release him and save the $17 million. Right now I would think that's the likely scenario. Sounds good. We could use that money to sign a free agent safety. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunnie Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 Apparently his contract gives the Jets an out after this year. We can release him and save the $17 million. Right now I would think that's the likely scenario. I've been saying this for weeks ... McCagnan did an awesome job structuring his contract. A+ Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tfine Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 Another big win for Macc Mac didn't draft WilkSent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 Shame I defended this guy. He took the money and ran. Probably because Temple players get special treatment tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 35 minutes ago, TuscanyTile2 said: Apparently his contract gives the Jets an out after this year. We can release him and save the $17 million. Right now I would think that's the likely scenario. agreed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 4 minutes ago, JiF said: Shame I defended this guy. He took the money and ran. Probably because Temple players get special treatment tho. really is a shame he looked like he might be a top five guy for years to come Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 I was all about this guy. I defended him! He fooled the sh*t outta me. Definitely release his sorry ass. He can go hang out with Coples. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 can never tell when a once good player will tank when paid the cash we got Haynesworthed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JETSfan4life_1 Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 can the JETS resign Sheldon after this year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoot-Face Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 19 minutes ago, Dunnie said: I've been saying this for weeks ... McCagnan did an awesome job structuring his contract. A+ Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app He planned for Mo's suckage beautifully. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 22 minutes ago, Dunnie said: I've been saying this for weeks ... McCagnan did an awesome job structuring his contract. A+ Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adoni Beast Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 He's gone after this year even he plays "pretty good." We need to lock up Leo soon and are not gonna pay big $ to two dlinemen. He won't play anything more than decent anyway, so Mo is a goner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshmello Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 Ralph Vacchiano reported that. Overtjhecap.com has it listed as 9 million in dead money if were to cut him before next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointman Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 So let Snacks go, sell Sheldon, and then release Mo. Sounds like we getting ready to try something new and draft a DL in the 1st round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 1 minute ago, pointman said: So let Snacks go, sell Sheldon, and then release Mo. Sounds like we getting ready to try something new and draft a DL in the 1st round. Nothing says rebuild like gutting the position group that is set, before finding any other NFL caliber players in 3 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 Sounds like someone got stiffed on a delivery tip from Mangold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 Can the sending team pick up the rest of a player's contract in a NFL trade like they do in MLB? I can't recall anyone doing that under the current agreement and if it's allowed I think a contender would have to be interested in that at the deadline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawn306 Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 3 minutes ago, southparkcpa said: Mangolds effort was NEVER in question. HE was hurt and played hard. Coples, Wilk, Revis etc.... all made it clear they are not giving it their best. We all defended David Harris, CMart, and many many others because they tried even with declining skills. Throw Brick in there as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 I can't believe that Gato's schtick still gets a rise out of some of you. Nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSteve Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 According to over the cap, we save about $11 million next year, but would have about $9 million in dead money. Might be worth it though, given the $100 million in cap space. We can absorb it and be done with this dog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 So, this thread is going well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoot-Face Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 8 minutes ago, Integrity28 said: I can't believe that Gato's schtick still gets a rise out of some of you. Nice. To be fair to me, this is the first time I've seen his schtick. How many times has he shown you his schtick? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freemanm Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 1 hour ago, TuscanyTile2 said: Apparently his contract gives the Jets an out after this year. We can release him and save the $17 million. Right now I would think that's the likely scenario. All this while Snacks Harrison continues to be the anchor of the Giants defense. One of Macc's worst moves in a series of bad moves so far Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoot-Face Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 1 minute ago, Freemanm said: All this while Snacks Harrison continues to be the anchor of the Giants defense. One of Macc's worst moves in a series of bad moves so far IIRC, Snacks was the only significant change on defense from 2015 to 2016. I wonder how much his absence played a factor in the breakdown on defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freemanm Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 4 minutes ago, Spoot-Face said: IIRC, Snacks was the only significant change on defense from 2015 to 2016. I wonder how much his absence played a factor in the breakdown on defense. You really don't think his absence has anything to do with why we went from being in the top five run defenses in 2015 to having a piss poor run defense today? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 4 minutes ago, Spoot-Face said: IIRC, Snacks was the only significant change on defense from 2015 to 2016. I wonder how much his absence played a factor in the breakdown on defense. I believe it's that the offense somehow got worse. At least before last year there was a semblance of a running game sometimes. As much as he was a great find, the kind of find the Jets don't get nearly enough, the Jets aren't where they are because they gave up a run stuffer who plays half the snaps on defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 14 hours ago, CanadaSteve said: According to over the cap, we save about $11 million next year, but would have about $9 million in dead money. Might be worth it though, given the $100 million in cap space. We can absorb it and be done with this dog. On the surface it seems so, but that "dead" amount is already gone whether we keep him or not. We save his full salary amount, since none of it is guaranteed (unless he gets injured, I think). They save $17m because they won't be paying him another $17m. Depending on how much they're looking to spend in 2018 (i.e. how much cap space they need next year), they could designate him a June 1 cut. His cap hit would then drop from $20m to $3m (rather than $9m), and then in 2019 there'd be a $6m donut hole. It's $9m "dead" either way, but consider they got to use ~$6m extra space in 2016 (to use towards Fitzpatrick ). So it's not a penalty, per se. It's just that we chose to have that money hit later rather than earlier. But just to avoid looking stupid, assuming the GM is Maccagnan, I think he'd spread the $9m over 2 years to prevent lots of internet fans and Mehtas from seeing that full amount in dead space all in 1 lump sum and using that number against him. He'll get more flack for dead hits of $9m and $0 than for hits of $3m and $6m, even though they're the same thing. Plus it'll make cutting him next year look like that much more of a no-brainer, as the savings will seem more significant than it is in actuality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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