RESNewYork Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 for Mike Maccagnan and Todd Bowles. I believe they are both signed till the end of the 2018 season. Every thread is tank vs winning but personally, I wanted the team to do enough this season to get an extension for both. Whatever that win total was. I think it's very important for the Jets success to have continuity. Feel it would be a big mistake for the youth to grow, make their mistakes this season, gain the experience, and then ask them to learn a new system next season. I am not delusional in thinking this is a talented roster, but there is young talent with potential. With a treasure trove of cap space, and an extra 2nd rounder, Mac can add additional young talent. Mac has also purged the roster of the Idzik/Ryan players who probably didn't fit the culture Bowles and Mac were trying to create. Plenty of Bowles haters but 1 thing he has proven is he can win games with sub par QB play. Also feel like it may have been difficult to change the culture in the locker room after taking over for the ultimate player's coach in Rex Ryan. Saying Rex ran a loose ship is an understatement. He's a good coach. Feel he is only going to ascend and I doubt there is going to be a coach available that is better. End the carousel. Extend them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maddog45 Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 Extend , even extend if they didn't **** up the tank . This is a great staff and FO, all we need is a damn qb and we're a top 4 team in the NFL .We have goons on D, good rbs, decent oline , decent WRs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScarletKnight89 Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 I'd extend them. Everything I've heard about Macc is that he's a very solid football guy, well respected. I kept saying this last year and i'll say it again, you can not keep firing guys every 3 or so years and expect to have success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 Mac...yes. Bowles...not yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoot-Face Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 If you think it'll help Bowles and Macc be better at their jobs, than sure, we can try this "exstension" thing you're talking about. Just as long as we don't extend them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RESNewYork Posted October 11, 2017 Author Share Posted October 11, 2017 7 minutes ago, AFJF said: Mac...yes. Bowles...not yet. Probably cheated starting this thread now because there may not be a lot of wins left this season. How come "not yet" for Bowles? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 Just now, RESNewYork said: Probably cheated starting this thread now because there may not be a lot of wins left this season. How come "not yet" for Bowles? If you extend him and the team quits on him again down the stretch like they did last year, it's not a great way to roll in to next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 Yeah, get it done now before someone snatches them up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southparkcpa Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 31 minutes ago, RESNewYork said: for Mike Maccagnan and Todd Bowles. I believe they are both signed till the end of the 2018 season. Every thread is tank vs winning but personally, I wanted the team to do enough this season to get an extension for both. Whatever that win total was. I think it's very important for the Jets success to have continuity. Feel it would be a big mistake for the youth to grow, make their mistakes this season, gain the experience, and then ask them to learn a new system next season. I am not delusional in thinking this is a talented roster, but there is young talent with potential. With a treasure trove of cap space, and an extra 2nd rounder, Mac can add additional young talent. Mac has also purged the roster of the Idzik/Ryan players who probably didn't fit the culture Bowles and Mac were trying to create. Plenty of Bowles haters but 1 thing he has proven is he can win games with sub par QB play. Also feel like it may have been difficult to change the culture in the locker room after taking over for the ultimate player's coach in Rex Ryan. Saying Rex ran a loose ship is an understatement. He's a good coach. Feel he is only going to ascend and I doubt there is going to be a coach available that is better. End the carousel. Extend them. I thought this was a McCown thread.... I almost threw up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetFaninMI Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 Wait until after this season at least. I am dead set against giving either one an extension at this time. Lets wait and see how the season plays out. Bowles has made mistakes and so has Macc. Bowles lost this locker room last season and yeah all the malcontents are gone but lets see what happens when they lose a few in a row and if he can hold it together. If he does that and they don't give up on the season I would think about giving Bowles an extension. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetscrazey Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 Can we play some tougher opponents first? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Embrace the Suck Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 26 minutes ago, RESNewYork said: for Mike Maccagnan and Todd Bowles. I believe they are both signed till the end of the 2018 season. Stop bogarting whatever you're smoking because I want some too. Extend? Why? Particularly with next season under contract still. Those two both need to show some tangible results first, and that doesn't mean beating bad teams over a short run or hitting on high draft picks. This platinum trophy for no reason sh*t is for losers and how bad organizations are ran. Think about the Mo Wilk extension, particularly it's value. It was a knee jerk irrational decision based on fear. Extending Mac and Bowles at this point would be no different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Embrace the Suck Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 2 minutes ago, Gastineau Lives said: Yeah, get it done now before someone snatches them up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RESNewYork Posted October 11, 2017 Author Share Posted October 11, 2017 How real is the idea that a team quits on their coach. Isn't it just tied to winning and losing? 2015, Jets have a winning record, no talk of quitting. 2016 the Jets have a putrid season, the team quit on Bowles. 2017, Jets are 3-2 and no talk of the team quitting on their coach Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Jets fan Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 9 minutes ago, RESNewYork said: Probably cheated starting this thread now because there may not be a lot of wins left this season. How come "not yet" for Bowles? Simple, he has no idea how to see what young qbs can do in a real game. He would rather win five games this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoot-Face Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 Oh, and I love how three years into the new regime, the egregious lack of talent is still the fault of Rex/Idzik. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 4 minutes ago, Gastineau Lives said: Yeah, get it done now before someone snatches them up. Mac should trade Bowles for #1 pick...boom! Get a QB! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoot-Face Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 3 minutes ago, southparkcpa said: I thought this was a McCown thread.... I almost threw up. That actually would have been less vomit-inducing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoot-Face Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 1 minute ago, AFJF said: Mac should trade Bowles for #1 pick...boom! Get a QB! Nah, screw that. I say hold out until we can get 2 #1 picks! Plus a player who's like, really, really good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RESNewYork Posted October 11, 2017 Author Share Posted October 11, 2017 4 minutes ago, Embrace the Suck said: Stop bogarting whatever you're smoking because I want some too. Extend? Why? Particularly with next season under contract still. Those two both need to show some tangible results first, and that doesn't mean beating bad teams over a short run or hitting on high draft picks. This platinum trophy for no reason sh*t is for losers and how bad organizations are ran. Think about the Mo Wilk extension, particularly it's value. It was a knee jerk irrational decision based on fear. Extending Mac and Bowles at this point would be no different. Isnt the final year of the contract the lame duck year. Don't smoke. If I did, would share. Relax with the I had to be high to post what I did Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 Just now, Spoot-Face said: Nah, screw that. I say hold out until we can get 2 #1 picks! Plus a player who's like, really, really good. Really, really good is a bit much to ask. Perhaps a player who is pretty, pretty good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinc855 Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 For the first time in a long time this franchise is headed in the right direction. I feel they will both get extended, can we keep woody in London? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RESNewYork Posted October 11, 2017 Author Share Posted October 11, 2017 4 minutes ago, Joe Jets fan said: Simple, he has no idea how to see what young qbs can do in a real game. He would rather win five games this year. Coach is on the hot seat. Isn't it his job to win ball games? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maddog45 Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 7 minutes ago, RESNewYork said: How real is the idea that a team quits on their coach. Isn't it just tied to winning and losing? 2015, Jets have a winning record, no talk of quitting. 2016 the Jets have a putrid season, the team quit on Bowles. 2017, Jets are 3-2 and no talk of the team quitting on their coach Why does a losing season equate to a losing season? Of course no one likes to lose and the NFL in the long run requires a qb to be successful , and we're stuck with mcclown , so Bowles lost the team before the season started if that's the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoot-Face Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 4 minutes ago, AFJF said: Really, really good is a bit much to ask. Perhaps a player who is pretty, pretty good. How about we also throw in Kevin Greene? Now, that is a talented coach at a premium coaching position. Totally worth a player who is really, really good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Embrace the Suck Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 7 minutes ago, RESNewYork said: Isnt the final year of the contract the lame duck year. Don't smoke. If I did, would share. Relax with the I had to be high to post what I did The lame duck year stuff is overblown. People are under contract and are expected to perform. If players stop doing their job or respecting the coach or gm those players need to go as they are not professionals and you don't find those guys often on great teams. Also, its the first half of the year. What happens when you extend them now and potentially 4 weeks later the team falls apart? There isn't a staff cap so there is no need to lock them up cheap either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maddog45 Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 9 minutes ago, Joe Jets fan said: Simple, he has no idea how to see what young qbs can do in a real game. He would rather win five games this year. Exactly man ! Been said to play petty or hack instead of mcclown , if the kids win great we found our qb , lose it's still great we draft really high , but Bubba wants to win 6 games and **** the team and fans , only downside to Bowles . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RESNewYork Posted October 11, 2017 Author Share Posted October 11, 2017 1 minute ago, Maddog45 said: Why does a losing season equate to a losing season? Of course no one likes to lose and the NFL in the long run requires a qb to be successful , and we're stuck with mcclown , so Bowles lost the team before the season started if that's the case. He lost the team before the season started? Because McCown is the starter? What I'm tying to say is when fans, media, say things like the coach lost the team, the coaches didn't make adjustments, the players quit, etc, when they lose. It feels like a lazy excuse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maddog45 Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 3 minutes ago, RESNewYork said: He lost the team before the season started? Because McCown is the starter? What I'm tying to say is when fans, media, say things like the coach lost the team, the coaches didn't make adjustments, the players quit, etc, when they lose. It feels like a lazy excuse. No , that's for the people who equate a losing season to a coach losing a team . If that's the case the season was lost before the first game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RESNewYork Posted October 11, 2017 Author Share Posted October 11, 2017 3 minutes ago, Embrace the Suck said: The lame duck year stuff is overblown. People are under contract and are expected to perform. If players stop doing their job or respecting the coach or gm those players need to go as they are not professionals and you don't find those guys often on great teams. Also, its the first half of the year. What happens when you extend them now and potentially 4 weeks later the team falls apart? There isn't a staff cap so there is no need to lock them up cheap either. Agree but this is all you ever hear. Lame duck year. It's what every team with every head coach contract does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Embrace the Suck Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 8 minutes ago, RESNewYork said: Coach is on the hot seat. Isn't it his job to win ball games? Yes, but it's also his job to develop talent. I guess it depends on the owner and the organizational goals handed down. When I hit the first 4 billion dollar powerball lottery and buy the Jets any coach that wins a couple meaningless games by playing retread vets at the expense of developing the young talent will get fired, but that's just me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RESNewYork Posted October 11, 2017 Author Share Posted October 11, 2017 10 minutes ago, Maddog45 said: Exactly man ! Been said to play petty or hack instead of mcclown , if the kids win great we found our qb , lose it's still great we draft really high , but Bubba wants to win 6 games and **** the team and fans , only downside to Bowles . I know this has been discussed to no end on here but isn't the job of every coach is to put the best 11 on the field and try and win every game. Why should Bowles be different? I had no expectations for the season, I just wanted the team to show enough to keep Bowles and Mac. Whatever that number is. Just confident in what we have in place, like the new assistant coaches, and don't believe there is something better available at the end of the season. Tired of the carousel, and want the youth to develop with this staff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southparkcpa Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 9 minutes ago, RESNewYork said: Agree but this is all you ever hear. Lame duck year. It's what every team with every head coach contract does. What do we have to lose by waiting??? Playoffs? hell.... we're not even close to the playoffs , so I say let them ride out and make a decision after the season. So tired of the limp HC we have.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 1 hour ago, RESNewYork said: for Mike Maccagnan and Todd Bowles. I believe they are both signed till the end of the 2018 season. Every thread is tank vs winning but personally, I wanted the team to do enough this season to get an extension for both. Whatever that win total was. I think it's very important for the Jets success to have continuity. Feel it would be a big mistake for the youth to grow, make their mistakes this season, gain the experience, and then ask them to learn a new system next season. I am not delusional in thinking this is a talented roster, but there is young talent with potential. With a treasure trove of cap space, and an extra 2nd rounder, Mac can add additional young talent. Mac has also purged the roster of the Idzik/Ryan players who probably didn't fit the culture Bowles and Mac were trying to create. Plenty of Bowles haters but 1 thing he has proven is he can win games with sub par QB play. Also feel like it may have been difficult to change the culture in the locker room after taking over for the ultimate player's coach in Rex Ryan. Saying Rex ran a loose ship is an understatement. He's a good coach. Feel he is only going to ascend and I doubt there is going to be a coach available that is better. End the carousel. Extend them. This is actually a perfect opportunity to fire them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASH1962 Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 When we see a home playoff game, we should talk about extending whoever brings that to fruition, but until then, sorry none of them deserve $hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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